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TrollBuster9090

(5,955 posts)
Wed Aug 10, 2022, 10:50 PM Aug 2022

My Theory About What Was In Trump's Basement, And WHY He Never Declassified It.

The tapes and transcripts of all his conversations with Putin. (Including the one where he said the United States would veto any NATO attempt to stop Putin from taking Ukraine.).

There's been a lot of speculation about whether he declassified this stuff before he left. He wouldn't have. Because if it was declassified, anybody could see it with a FOIA request. If it's classified they can't. However, he wouldn't have trusted Biden not to declassify it. Leaving him with only one choice: leave it classified, and then take it with him and hide it.

No doubt he figured things would go like this:
1. It would take awhile for anyone to notice they were missing.
2. It would take awhile for the DOJ to figure out they were at his place in Mar-a-Lardo
3. When they asked for the records, he'd give them the 15 boxes that didn't contain the tapes/transcripts.
4. It would take awhile for the DOJ to notice the 15 boxes didn't contain the stuff they were looking for.
5. He'd tie them up in pointless, bad faith negotiations, trying to get the remaining material.
6. He'd tie them up in court for YEARS with subpoenas trying to get the remaining material.
7. If he lost in court, he'd simply destroy the stuff. (Something that carries JAIL time now, thanks to his 2018 law, which was originally intended to punish leakers. Oh the irony.
8. By now it's 2025, when there is (hopefully, from their perspective) a Republican President and Congress that will pardon him for the lesser crime of destroying govt records.

He never reckoned on a 'rat' telling DOJ exactly what to look for, and where to find it.
He never reckoned on Garland making a bold move to get it.

He's screwed, and so is everybody who's currently trying to protect him. I'm taking down names.
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My Theory About What Was In Trump's Basement, And WHY He Never Declassified It. (Original Post) TrollBuster9090 Aug 2022 OP
The only thing that was planted was Ivanna MiniMe Aug 2022 #1
. . . LastLiberal in PalmSprings Aug 2022 #15
It's as plausible a theory as any I've heard so far. Ocelot II Aug 2022 #2
docs at mar a lago were in the news months ago. wondering why they such a big deal now nt msongs Aug 2022 #3
Google can be your friend ZonkerHarris Aug 2022 #10
And so, I hope, can some on DU. Mister Ed Aug 2022 #19
Nah Johnny2X2X Aug 2022 #4
State secrets. Lord knows he gave that to lavrov in the oval in 2017. onecaliberal Aug 2022 #5
Thanks for reminding me. I left that point off my list. TrollBuster9090 Aug 2022 #6
Yeah. Souvenirs of some type. Something which gratified his ego. Docs relates to the RockRaven Aug 2022 #7
They found out that the first 15 boxes were not what they wanted. usonian Aug 2022 #8
Of sump pumps, schlump glumps, and tRump dumps... Blue Owl Aug 2022 #9
Why didn't he take it and throw it out? n/t pnwmom Aug 2022 #11
The big thing that has always obsessed Trump is money Jarqui Aug 2022 #12
Would congress need approval to get that information from the FBI? C Moon Aug 2022 #13
AND THERE WAS THIS YESTERDAY IN WESTMINSTER, NJ PLAYING ON THE TV'S FOR HIM TO SEE.... William Gustafson Aug 2022 #14
Interesting theory. Kablooie Aug 2022 #16
As Pelosi said: 'With him, all roads lead to Putin' n/t AntiFascist Aug 2022 #17
Really good analysis....this is exactly how he operates. He's gotten away with it all these years PortTack Aug 2022 #18

Mister Ed

(5,944 posts)
19. And so, I hope, can some on DU.
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 04:15 AM
Aug 2022

It's a political discussion board. There is really no question a poster could possibly raise that could not be met with a snarky suggestion to go and Google it. Of course, that leaves precious little room for discussion....

TrollBuster9090

(5,955 posts)
6. Thanks for reminding me. I left that point off my list.
Wed Aug 10, 2022, 11:08 PM
Aug 2022

The last step, after tying the DOJ up in court on subpoenas, would be to simply destroy the stuff. Then hope that a Republican President will pardon him for destroying government records. Something which carries jail time, thanks to HIS 2018 law. How's that for irony?

RockRaven

(15,003 posts)
7. Yeah. Souvenirs of some type. Something which gratified his ego. Docs relates to the
Wed Aug 10, 2022, 11:09 PM
Aug 2022

various assassinations that were carried out on his watch (Soleimani or bin Laden's son, for example) which make him feel big and strong and tough? Something like that, which would be very highly classified, and sensitive enough that the DOJ/FBI would be willing to weather this shitstorm in order to get them back.

Jarqui

(10,130 posts)
12. The big thing that has always obsessed Trump is money
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 01:03 AM
Aug 2022

He's had his troubles making it and hanging on to it.

Why would the FBI subpoena CCTV videos?
What could they possibly show related to classified documents?
.... The people who came to visit Trump.

Maybe the rat is a Secret Service agent who couldn't stomach his country being sold out.

That's all speculation. Who knows for sure aside from Trump et al?

But when I look over what has happened with this and how it went down, I have a strong feeling they've got him on something much more than a misdemeanor.

I thought CNN switching to a main article about Gov Degenocidis seemed to be signaling it is time to throw the lying mango under the bus.

C Moon

(12,221 posts)
13. Would congress need approval to get that information from the FBI?
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 01:04 AM
Aug 2022

Because if the FBI finds crimes not related to what the search warrant was intended for, maybe they won't bother with it.

Kablooie

(18,641 posts)
16. Interesting theory.
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 01:34 AM
Aug 2022

But if it's true it doesn't sound like critical classified information that would get him in legal trouble.

The warrant search could be the end of the issue. The wanted it, they got it, deal done.

PortTack

(32,794 posts)
18. Really good analysis....this is exactly how he operates. He's gotten away with it all these years
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 03:22 AM
Aug 2022

And no doubt thinks this will be no different. Throw in the fact that he no doubt is selling it to the highest bidder..always follow the money!

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