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kpete

(72,018 posts)
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 12:59 PM Aug 2022

FBI: His attorneys showed us the proof and then colluded in the crime.

So when the FBI wrote an affidavit for violations of the Espionage Act, they said, "here's how I know Trump has classified documents and won't give them back: We subpoenaed them, his attorneys showed us them, and then refused to give them back."

Judge: Why do you think this man committed a crime?

FBI: Because his attorneys showed us the proof and then colluded in that crime.


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https://edition.cnn.com/2022/08/11/politics/mar-a-lago-search-subpoena-latest/index.html
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FBI: His attorneys showed us the proof and then colluded in the crime. (Original Post) kpete Aug 2022 OP
So Trump's own attorneys were the direct witnesses needed for the search warrant? Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #1
Sounds like a trump attorney, now that you mention it! BComplex Aug 2022 #3
They must have gone to the Trump Family School of Law. Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #4
A great example of why you should pay your attorneys rurallib Aug 2022 #21
Not only witnesses, but they probably viewed classified information too. TheBlackAdder Aug 2022 #22
Of course they did. Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #28
John fucking Solomon, gab13by13 Aug 2022 #2
The attorneys should be disbarred. live love laugh Aug 2022 #5
They should wind up in prison. n/t Mr.Bill Aug 2022 #7
Yes, and more. 41 of Nixon's "people" got criminal convictions and Hortensis Aug 2022 #14
I dunno. IF they become the reason we GET tRump, could be they deserve a medal. TigressDem Aug 2022 #30
We know that at least 25 boxes of documents were removed from the White House. Lonestarblue Aug 2022 #6
Maybe he made Eric do it. He works for minimum wage. AllyCat Aug 2022 #10
Holy crap! There's a lot there and clearly crimes were broken LymphocyteLover Aug 2022 #8
Wouldn't that make his attorneys complicit in a crime too? LiberalFighter Aug 2022 #9
If aides did pack the boxes of documents I think another crime happened not a texan Aug 2022 #11
I'm not holding my breath awaiting charges..... getagrip_already Aug 2022 #12
With Jack Marcuse Aug 2022 #13
On a side note: Didn't Trump previously argue that Mar-a-Lardo is not his home? OneBro Aug 2022 #15
Reminder: The promoter of TruthSocial believes truth is very flexible when bending it benefits him.n Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2022 #17
The prior issue is a Palm Beach ordinance that says a club cannot be simultaneously claimed as a ancianita Aug 2022 #18
Thank you! OneBro Aug 2022 #23
I think I understand this OP maxsolomon Aug 2022 #16
RICO RICO RICO bringthePaine Aug 2022 #19
Does this eliminate attorney/client privilege? CaptainTruth Aug 2022 #20
Lock him up. n/t TygrBright Aug 2022 #24
Only the best! Novara Aug 2022 #25
if the fbi recovered classified cos in june thats a crime committed by trum moonshinegnomie Aug 2022 #26
What a fantastic box of "Careful what you wish for, GOP. You may get it." I just love it! 💙 crickets Aug 2022 #27
Ka-BOOM! Blue Owl Aug 2022 #29

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
14. Yes, and more. 41 of Nixon's "people" got criminal convictions and
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 02:27 PM
Aug 2022

and I think about 25 did prison time. More escaped that but not ruin of their careers. Watergate was of course very small potatoes compared to this, which also extends to criminal/seditious activities in various states. I'm hopeful.

TigressDem

(5,125 posts)
30. I dunno. IF they become the reason we GET tRump, could be they deserve a medal.
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 08:05 PM
Aug 2022

Maybe attorneys are just sick of being forced to break the law by their clients and this is a subtle way of fighting back.

Just a thought.


So many of the rich and powerful think their attorneys can get them out of any criminal consequences so they do what they please and pay the attorneys to "fix it".

Lonestarblue

(10,078 posts)
6. We know that at least 25 boxes of documents were removed from the White House.
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 02:12 PM
Aug 2022

We also know that Trump is too lazy to do anything for himself, so which WH aides packed those boxes for him? Aides had to know that those boxes contained documents that belonged to the National Archives, and possible that some of them were classified as top secret. So which aides were still working in the WH when the packing started?

not a texan

(39 posts)
11. If aides did pack the boxes of documents I think another crime happened
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 02:19 PM
Aug 2022

Did these aides have security clearance to see classified documents? I highly doubt it. Just like Trump to think things like a security clearance is something other admins need to do properly, certainly not his

getagrip_already

(14,838 posts)
12. I'm not holding my breath awaiting charges.....
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 02:22 PM
Aug 2022

I doubt there will be any.

The govt wanted the docs back in their custody. But I doubt they will ever bring charges.

This is not a case they want to charge. Not on its own.

OneBro

(1,159 posts)
15. On a side note: Didn't Trump previously argue that Mar-a-Lardo is not his home?
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 02:32 PM
Aug 2022

Now his attorneys are saying it IS his home. What was the prior issue on whether it IS his home vs is NOT his home?

ancianita

(36,137 posts)
18. The prior issue is a Palm Beach ordinance that says a club cannot be simultaneously claimed as a
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 02:44 PM
Aug 2022

residence; that someone can stay in it no longer than six months; now, trump's six months has long been up. His lawyers are doing what he pays them to do, which is defend him through some loophole.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/16/us/politics/trump-mar-a-lago.html

CaptainTruth

(6,602 posts)
20. Does this eliminate attorney/client privilege?
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 02:49 PM
Aug 2022

If TFG's attorneys showed the FBI documents that he had illegally, & then "colluded in the crime" by keeping them, doesn't that eliminate attorney/client privilege, which means the attorneys would be free to talk to investigators about their discussions with TFG?

My understanding is that if an attorney & their client both participate in the commission of a crime there is no attorney/client privilege for any discussions related to that crime.

Legal folks?

moonshinegnomie

(2,488 posts)
26. if the fbi recovered classified cos in june thats a crime committed by trum
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 03:44 PM
Aug 2022

thats months after the 15 boxes they seized. . he should have been arrested that day and taken away in cuffs

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