next gop claim will be oh but he had declassified it all.

[drray23]

If that warrant and receipt shows the fbi retrieved some classified docs the gop will pivot and just say that it was declassified anyway .
Thus won't fly but it will keep the magats foaming at the mouth.

[SheltieLover]

1. But there is a very specific protocol

[Irish_Dem]

10. Yes but Trump won't go to jail for not filling out paperwork.

[Dysfunctional]

13. By not following protocol those documents are still classified.

[Irish_Dem]

14. He can claim he declassified them but someone forgot to do the paperwork.

I guarantee you, Garland is not going to send Trump to jail for the crime of not filling out paperwork.

Even if Trump admits the docs were classified, I don't see MG putting him in jail for that.

[NutmegYankee]

26. If the markings on the documents are not crossed out and the authority cited, it's still classified

There’s no forget defense.

[Irish_Dem]

28. No one is going to put him in jail for not filling out forms and taking WH property.

He already stole quite a bit of WH property, it was public knowledge and no one cared.

[NutmegYankee]

29. Taking classified documents home is a felony.

He can't claim they are declassified if the markings aren't crossed out and the authority cited. He would probably even be banned from raising it as a defense.

[Irish_Dem]

30. No one is going to put him in jail for talking classified documents.

Especially when he can claim he declassified them but did not do the routine paperwork.

He can further claim no harm was done and the FBI has the documents now.

The GOP white male elite does not have the same consequences you and I would face.

We live in a multitiered justice system and some folks are thinking about the tier occupied by most of us. Not the one for the white rich elite, especially ones politically connected.

Actually some think all of this is a low level nothing burger.

But the FBI may be using it to stir up the Trump crime syndicate.
Make them all paranoid and squirrelly.

Maybe they will make mistakes, or new witnesses will come forward.

That is about the only thing that makes sense here.

[Dysfunctional]

31. The protocol has to be completed or they are still classified.

It's not just paperwork. I know because Robert MacNamara went on tv and forgot(?) that he had an NSA classified document that was Top Secret Codeword with him and it did not have a cover sheet on it. Because of that, every single document with that codeword on it had to be destroyed or at the minimum, the codeword had to be expunged and the new codeword stamped on it. And for me, these were documents that were in a secure building in which I had a clearance, and this is how it is written Top Secret Cryptographic Access Limitations-None 96C2L63 Interrogator 98G2L67.

[Irish_Dem]

32. And nothing happened to McNamara.

That is my point.

[Dysfunctional]

33. McNamara made a stupid mistake, Trump did it on purpose. I want him to go to prison.

I along with others here took an oath to support and defend the Constitution. I personally believe that the oath I took did not end when I left the army but continues until I die. I am a 100% service-connected disabled veteran, but I would be disabled even if I had never enlisted due to mental health issues that started in my 5th year of service. I am grateful to the VA and to this country for all they have done for me.

[SheltieLover]

15. I doubt he will anyway.

Caucasian: ✔

Penis: ✔

Wealty, or pretends to be: ✔

Need I say more?

Imo, FBI executed search because CPAC resulted in tfg being "the overwhelming favorite" for 2024 nominee.

As stupid as they are, they must know he cannot win a national election.

Given that he (likely/seemingly) has kompromat on all of them, I strongly believe purpose of the search had nothing to do with national security, more like securing safe path for De Satan as 2024 nominee.

Seriously, if those documents were so sensitive / critical for national security, why did DOJ wait over 1.5 years to collect them? 😏

Pls remember, Wray was appointed by tfg & is reportedly a Federalist.

Why is this pos still heading thd FBI?

[Irish_Dem]

16. +1

You nailed it Sheltie.

White, rich, male, politically connected. Part of the GOP elite.

No consequences for him. Even if he sold the location of every CIA agent to Putin.

If you watch the Beau of the Fifth Column videos here, he has an interesting spin on recent events which I agree with.

He says that this document search is low level and essentially a nothing burger.

But it is classic FBI to do this kind of thing with a group of criminals they are going after.
It creates paranoia, the targets get squirrelly. Everything thinks they are being wired tapped, etc.

The crooks start making mistakes. New witnesses may come forward.

It makes sense to me.

But in the end I agree with you, Trump will never be sent to jail.

[SheltieLover]

21. Why is a Federalist running FBI?

Thx for video recs.

[Irish_Dem]

24. Because Putin got his puppet installed in the WH.

And Supreme Ct is full of fascist fake christians.
And the GOP is in bed with the Russians.

I love Beau.

He is a military brat like I am.
As a kid he was stationed at a US military base in Japan where I had lived as a kid years before.

Military kids are odd creatures and have a unique perspective.

From an early age we are dragged around the world, live in exotic or dismal places.
But we appreciate that Americans are only a small piece of humanity.
We see the world through a very different lens.

And living in the military we know how the US government really operates.
From top brass down to lowest private, it is a political microcosm that connects right to Wash DC.

[H2O Man]

25. +1

[zuul]

2. Doesn't matter if he unclassified them.

He had no right to take the documents. He STOLE them!

[MontanaMama]

3. It doesn't matter if the contents were declassified.

They can be reclassified at any moment. AND, the documents are the property of the United States government regardless of their classification status. They never belonged to TFG. He took them out of the WH and that is stealing by any definition.

[getagrip_already]

4. Correct, once he got the subpoena that specified classified docs...

He was on notice they were classified, and he wasn't.



Just because you turned a light off doesn't mean someone else can't turn it on.

[RockRaven]

5. Two word answer: "Prove it"

If some dumbass wants to claim they were declassified, tell them to prove it or STFU.

[lark]

6. It was being used on the first day.

I heard it from several of the repug legislators.

[Meadowoak]

7. It doesn't matter if they were classified or declassified. They don't

Belong to Trump. He stole them.

[Walleye]

8. I don't think he ever thought he was gonna leave the presidency

[Irish_Dem]

9. I agree, that is why his attorneys didn't return the documents to the FBI.

There were no longer classified documents.

[uponit7771]

18. The documents weren't TFGs though and belonged in NARA classified or not.

[Irish_Dem]

19. Yes but he won't get arrested for taking WH property.

And Trump knows that.

[uponit7771]

20. +1,

[Irish_Dem]

22. I bet he took a lot more WH property than boxes of documents.

He openly stole art work from US embassies when visiting overseas.

We can certainly guess he took quite a few "souvenirs" from the WH.

He knows no one will care.

[uponit7771]

23. I read he did take WH items, he's a 100% jerk about everything. Looks like a J6 who threatened the

... FBI with a nail gun was killed.

These people are stupid to no end ... just damn America

[Irish_Dem]

27. I hadn't read he took WH items. But not surprised.

Most likely Melania took dishes, silver, crystal, linens as well.

Both are crooks.

Trump is advocating violence and will not stop until someone stops him.

And we have to face the reality that a big chunk of America wants to violently overthrow the US government and kill Dems.

Shocking really. I know the GOP elite consists of ruthless sociopaths. But I did not think Americans would overthrow the US government and end democracy for fascism.

[spanone]

11. Heard that days ago

[Irish_Dem]

12. I think Trump stole quite a bit of things from the WH, objects, documents, etc.

He got away with all of it, feels entitled and doesn't understand why the fuss about papers he declassified.

[uponit7771]

17. Doesn't matter they belong to NARA