What does it mean that

[cilla4progress]

tfg not objecting to unsealing?

[Blue Owl]

1. He has no say in the matter, but still has to pretend he's controlling the narrative

[Phoenix61]

3. Yes he does. If he objected the warrant and list would

not be released at this time.

[Ms. Toad]

11. He was given until 3:00 PM on Friday to object,

But he does not have the final say. The judge who issued the warrant has the final say.

[Phoenix61]

18. Seems that decision has already been made.

“On Wednesday, a U.S. magistrate judge gave federal prosecutors until 5 p.m. Monday to respond to a request by the Albany Times Union and other news organizations to unseal the search warrant.
In a letter made public by U.S. Magistrate Judge Bruce E. Reinhart, Brendan J. Lyons, a managing editor of the Albany news organization, cited the public’s First Amendment and common law right to inspect judicial records and noted that courts have ruled “it is inappropriate to indefinitely seal a warrant affidavit.””

[Ms. Toad]

21. Not sure what your point is.

You said Trump had the power to prevent the release of the documents.

I explained that he didn't - he can object to their release, but ultimately the decision to unseal the warrant is up to the judge.

The decision to unseal them has not been made yet. Trump can formally object, through the courts, until 3:00 Friday. (His tweet is not a legal objection). Even if he formally objects, it is ultimately the court's decision.

What you quoted is simply an assertion by the press that it believes it has a right to inspect the documents at some point. That is generally true, but has no impact on the whether the court will unseal the warrant in response to the petition by the DOJ to unseal it (a decision which will be made by the court (not Trump) sometime after 3:00 PM on Friday.

[Phoenix61]

27. The judge is the one who issued the order for Trump

to respond by 3:00. It’s unlikely he would do that then ignore what Trump wanted. I understand the judge is the one who issues the order but by asking Trump what he wants, Trump is functionally making that decision.

[Ms. Toad]

29. The party opposing a motion nearly always has an opportunity to respond.

Giving him a deadline of today shortens the usual period of response (7-21 days). So imposing a very early deadline, if anything, suggests the court believes there are no available substantive objections.

[Lunabell]

2. Doublespeak.

His lawyers will probably come out at the deadline tomorrow and announce they will not allow it to be released. This way the fat turd is off the hook with his minions.

[regnaD kciN]

4. It means nothing...

…because there’s at least a 50-50 chance he’ll reverse himself – probably with the claim that he really wanted to do it, but his legal staff overruled him.

(Or maybe he’ll float a compromise that he’ll allow the release of a transcript of selected portions of the documentation, to be supervised by Sen. Stennis? BTW, you probably have to be an AARP member to get that reference.)

[Meowmee]

6. That is probably what will actually happen we think

[PJMcK]

25. It doesn't matter what Trump or his lawyers want

It's the judge who will decide whether or not to unseal the documents. Trump can only voice his point of view. Period.

[unblock]

5. At some point, it's going to come out what they took

He's actually just doing the standard way to handle scandals, which is to get ahead of the disclosures.

As always, he's going to argue that he did nothing wrong.

Plus, the full inventory of seized items will allow them to pick and choose something to get outraged about.

[MerryHolidays]

7. Nowhere does Trump say he is fine with unsealing the warrant and inventory

He has literally said he's ok with releasing the underlying documents seized during the search. This hugely comprises what appears to be classified information.

These are two separate issues.

[onenote]

15. That is not what he said.

He refers to the documents related to the search, which would be the search warrant and the inventory. The DOJ motion to have those items unsealed and made public repeatedly refers to them as "documents" and Trump's statement gives no indication that when he refers to documents he's referring to anything other than the same "documents" addressed in the DOJ motion.

[MerryHolidays]

20. Where exactly does he say he doesn't oppose DoJ's motion to unseal?

He doesn't.

[onenote]

26. He says he won't oppose the "release of the documents related to the search"

The "documents" that DOJ motion is seeking to have the court "release" are the motion and inventory. The motion (and the court's follow up) gives Trump the opportunity to indicate whether he opposes that release. Trump's statement answers that question. There is nothing in his statement to suggest he is referring to anything other than the motion and inventory -- those are the "documents" whose "release" the DOJ is giving him the opportunity to address.

Loosen the tin foil.

[MerryHolidays]

28. "Loosen the tinfoil"? Seriously?

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Grow up if you believe what Trump has written. The words are vague enough to mean anything. Rather remarkable that you take him at his word.

I guess lots of us wear "tinfoil" on DU.: https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217033030 .

Even CNN says it's not clear what documents Trump is referring to: https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/12/politics/nuclear-documents-trump-showdown-justice-department/index.html

But we're really glad you're around to keep us on the right path.

[Kablooie]

8. I think it means...

He will double down on the planted evidence angle.
It sounds stupid but his base will eat it up.
They will explode knowing that Democrats planted top secret documents in his safe just to bring him down.
Such a dangerous thing to do. Democrats endangering our security just to stop him from running.

[Deuxcents]

9. Why can't Garland release it right then?

He said he did not object but I’d bet he will. Then, Garland pulls the paperwork n recites it. Checkmate. We gotta stop playing these games w/ him as he’s a control freak. No one is above the law. Besides..I don’t think tfg would ever think Garland would do it.

[Tetrachloride]

12. TFG needs his time in the dunce corner.

Then everyone knows.

[Princess Turandot]

13. When you ask a federal judge to put that paperwork under seal, you need the court's permission..

...to lift the seal. The judge wants to know by tomorrow (Friday) afternoon if Trump objects to the unsealing of the search warrant, and some of the other paperwork. (Actually, he told the DOJ to determine Trump's position and formally report back to the court.)

So, it will be the judge's decision.

[Ms. Toad]

14. The documents were filed in court under seal.

Garland is not about to violate the court order sealing the documents.

[CentralMass]

10. The Mango Malefactor is an habitual liar.

[yorkster]

16. The judge decides, I think.

It's hammer time. Don't give an inch.

[onenote]

17. My theory:

He has the warrant. He has the inventory. It would not be surprising if there are items, or categories of items, listed in the warrant that were not found in the search. He will point to where that is the case and scream that it proves the search was a politically motivated hit job on him.

[DET]

22. You're Probably Right

But there may be other even potentially more incriminating items that were ‘incidentally’ found during the search. It’s all just a game to TFG at this point. Garland finally found his backbone; he’s going to have to keep it up to counter the overwhelming onslaught of whiney bull**** and lies that are to come. I’m just so tired of the endless nature of this crap.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

23. "finally found his backbone"? WTF does that mean?

[DET]

24. It means...

That it’s taken a long time for Democrats as a whole and Garland in particular to fight strategically against our adversaries. This was an aggressive move today on Garland’s part, for which he should be applauded. I’ve always thought that Garland was a deeply honorable man who has worked tirelessly to support our country, but I like many others have been concerned that he has been slow to take action. I did not intend to use inflammatory words; after all, in the end, were all on the same side.

[asiliveandbreathe]

19. The guy is a code talker, that is why it is so hard to nail down the MF...the DOJ and the MF

Lawyers are to get together and give the judge their yea or nay by 3pm tmo....what is revealed is anyone's guess, the warrant and summary if agrees to reveal....nothing more....now ..Will there be a line item veto who the hell knows...redactions...depends on the info in the summary....

Patience grasshopper...he is a sly MF