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kpete

(72,014 posts)
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 07:07 PM Aug 2022

FBI agents will begin FINGER PRINTING each doc to find out WHO actually touched them.

CNN analyst says the intel Trump stole are so sensitive that FBI agents will begin FINGER PRINTING each document to find out who actually touched them.


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FBI agents will begin FINGER PRINTING each doc to find out WHO actually touched them. (Original Post) kpete Aug 2022 OP
Wow. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2022 #1
In retaliation, Trump doxxed the agents. NullTuples Aug 2022 #71
Wow again, that's domestic terrorism by tRump, or mobilizing private army for personal gain. nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2022 #89
It was his counter move to DoJ requesting to release the warrant. NullTuples Aug 2022 #91
Yeah, tRump logic: Win by committing yet another crime. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2022 #92
Yes!!!!! SheltieLover Aug 2022 #2
" Yes!!!!!".. You betcha.. This is gonna get juicy...nt mitch96 Aug 2022 #72
It sure is! SheltieLover Aug 2022 #74
This is no game. Proper procedure must be followed perfectly. FirstLight Aug 2022 #3
I'm like you - love this forensic analyses stuff iluvtennis Aug 2022 #42
Don't all the printers and paper have those little watermarks? Won't that BComplex Aug 2022 #88
And I'm Guessing leftieNanner Aug 2022 #4
Does this include elected representatives? Asking for a friend... nt crickets Aug 2022 #12
Ooh! Good Thought! leftieNanner Aug 2022 #14
Do ghouls leave fingerprints? How about trailer queens and kiddie gates? Hermit-The-Prog Aug 2022 #17
Linseed has been fingerprinted COL Mustard Aug 2022 #40
Plus foreign authoritarians peppertree Aug 2022 #50
Not usually Sgent Aug 2022 #76
Well, darn. Interesting about bar associations. Thanks for the info. nt crickets Aug 2022 #81
I wonder if we have Putin's prints on file somewhere... n/t intheflow Aug 2022 #84
You betcha 2abigbman Aug 2022 #59
Hell, I had my prints taken just to work a low level job Ilsa Aug 2022 #90
and what will that prove? nt msongs Aug 2022 #5
That unauthorized people may have touched leftieNanner Aug 2022 #9
The AUTHORIZED people may tell us more. InstantGratification Aug 2022 #48
👆👆 crickets Aug 2022 #65
Like if Flynn's Prints showed up on a Captain Zero Aug 2022 #70
Yeppers. Funny how Kash Patel and John Solomon were suddenly added to the NARA list... later. crickets Aug 2022 #75
I wonder if that subpoena was complied to, and if it wasn't at the time, I wonder if it was msfiddlestix Aug 2022 #87
It gives them more people involved to flip by offering them deals to testify NickB79 Aug 2022 #27
Depending on the content of the documents, that they were aware of them & had likely read them NullTuples Aug 2022 #55
those not authorized will have to rat out dolt 45 to get lower sentences certainot Aug 2022 #67
Gloves ... Lovie777 Aug 2022 #6
They are really not that smart... sheshe2 Aug 2022 #11
Even you and I know that you don't wnylib Aug 2022 #26
I think they meant Trump & gang touching the docs w/o gloves HuskyOffset Aug 2022 #31
It didn't look that way when I read it, but it would make more sense. wnylib Aug 2022 #32
I'm pretty sure the Russian and Chinese agents who photographed them tclambert Aug 2022 #64
They better start watching the International Airports! nt leftieNanner Aug 2022 #7
And start tailing Trump and family wnylib Aug 2022 #30
LOL! leftieNanner Aug 2022 #39
Yes, a charter flight. Or, since wnylib Aug 2022 #46
Oops! Trump has to have his SECRET SERVICE detail! Eyeball_Kid Aug 2022 #62
About telling the Secret Service to "buzz off" - Trump actually can do that. GregariousGroundhog Aug 2022 #77
As we have learned, many of the SS are compromised wnylib Aug 2022 #79
From what I read birdographer Aug 2022 #57
Someone needs to disable it. LiberalFighter Aug 2022 #60
ROFL Joinfortmill Aug 2022 #73
Tick tock motherfuckers Arazi Aug 2022 #8
☝️☝️☝️ dixiechiken1 Aug 2022 #47
This makes me so happy!!!!! Maraya1969 Aug 2022 #10
Getting TFG's fingerprints would be a good idea then. ffr Aug 2022 #13
They're the greasy ones. nt woodsprite Aug 2022 #16
And they are very small. Ocelot II Aug 2022 #20
Chocolate and cheese berder juice. Traildogbob Aug 2022 #34
And ketchup. ShazzieB Aug 2022 #66
This has made my day. Start sweating mother fuckers. Autumn Aug 2022 #15
Seems to be a serious blow to... jcgoldie Aug 2022 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author Baked Potato Aug 2022 #19
Are they insinuating that they were too dumb to wear gloves??? nt Samrob Aug 2022 #21
Well, many wouldn't wear masks so... BadgerMom Aug 2022 #43
Handling documents protected by a padlock? meadowlander Aug 2022 #51
People are about to have a "come to Jesus" moment. gibraltar72 Aug 2022 #22
That wasn't a sonic boom COL Mustard Aug 2022 #44
Does the FBI have Pootie's prints... SergeStorms Aug 2022 #23
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! CatWoman Aug 2022 #24
It's the ketchup! gibraltar72 Aug 2022 #25
I thought about this earlier. Glad to see it's going to happen. littlemissmartypants Aug 2022 #28
There's gonna be a rush to see who can squeal first. Joinfortmill Aug 2022 #29
Twitter replies: Rhiannon12866 Aug 2022 #33
YES! pazzyanne Aug 2022 #35
FBI's keeping it as clean as possible and dotting every i. Torchlight Aug 2022 #36
Markie meadows, stephen miller, flynn, pillow guy, sidney powell, mo brooks, eastman PortTack Aug 2022 #37
Ivanka, Beevis, & maybe Butthead Higherarky Aug 2022 #49
This means the staffers who brought the docs to Trump, Deminpenn Aug 2022 #38
I wouldn't be surprised if he R Merm Aug 2022 #41
This is not a search for bamboo bucolic_frolic Aug 2022 #45
That's gonna pucker buttholes from one end of the sewer to the other. n/t TygrBright Aug 2022 #52
Of course. A basic first step. And time consuming. ancianita Aug 2022 #53
What does that tell you? brooklynite Aug 2022 #54
Fingerprints other than Trump's might be more interesting to the FBI. Mister Ed Aug 2022 #85
WOWSERS!! neoconn Aug 2022 #56
Wow! That's really something! karin_sj Aug 2022 #58
If they find small fingerprints it will be from the orange idiot's fingers. LiberalFighter Aug 2022 #61
Somebody in West Palm Beach is sweating bullets right about now FakeNoose Aug 2022 #63
CAN TRUMP ACTUALLY READ??? DemocraticPatriot Aug 2022 #68
I don't think I got enough popcorn... 2naSalit Aug 2022 #69
finger prints mixed with KFC grease... WarGamer Aug 2022 #78
They could have worn gloves Meowmee Aug 2022 #80
I wonder how many are doing voluntary overtime n/t BlueSpot Aug 2022 #82
That's the FBI we all know and love! Sogo Aug 2022 #83
This makes me smile LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2022 #86

NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
71. In retaliation, Trump doxxed the agents.
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 10:03 PM
Aug 2022

"Trump apparently leaked the warrant to Breitbart. The DOJ had sought to redact or shield the names of agents involved. Trump took no caution. The Breitbart article has names of agents, which obviously puts a target on their back."

You have to go to Brietbart and give them the clicks & cookies, but they posted the entire warrant without redacting names, etc.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/08/12/exclusive-warrant-shows-doj-fbi-waited-several-days-after-judge-approved-to-conduct-mar-a-lago-raid/

NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
91. It was his counter move to DoJ requesting to release the warrant.
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 12:03 PM
Aug 2022

He figured if he did it first he was in control, therefore he wins.

FirstLight

(13,364 posts)
3. This is no game. Proper procedure must be followed perfectly.
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 07:10 PM
Aug 2022

I freaking love this stuff... It's forensics and science as well. And you bet your aSS the FBI has not been handling these without gloves!

Looking forward to this entire thing unfolding

BComplex

(8,064 posts)
88. Don't all the printers and paper have those little watermarks? Won't that
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 10:29 AM
Aug 2022

alert the forensic people to which printer was used?

leftieNanner

(15,149 posts)
4. And I'm Guessing
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 07:11 PM
Aug 2022

That every White House and Federal employee had their fingerprints taken as part of the background check!!


Ding-Ding-Ding!

Sgent

(5,857 posts)
76. Not usually
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 10:15 PM
Aug 2022

but any former military would be.

Also, I think all bar associations now fingerprint as part of criminal background checks before membership, but I'm not sure how long they have done that (so older attorneys might be grandfathered).

2abigbman

(29 posts)
59. You betcha
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 09:07 PM
Aug 2022

All Federal employees submit to fingerprints as part of a background investigation. Personal with access to TS/SCI undergo even more intensive checks. Not the normal SF-50 but an SF-52 exam. So he'll yes their fingerprints are in the non-criminal background section.

Ilsa

(61,698 posts)
90. Hell, I had my prints taken just to work a low level job
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 11:38 AM
Aug 2022

at a bank. I didn't even handle money or transactions. Insurance required fingerprinting.

Most states, if not all, require fingerprinting and background checks for nurses, now, or at least registered nurses. Too many ID and license thefts and felonious impersonations.

48. The AUTHORIZED people may tell us more.
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 08:28 PM
Aug 2022

A lot depends on having fingerprint samples on file for comparison. Anyone authorized to see classified should already have prints on file, it is part of the background check process.

Authorized people could raise questions if the security cams proved it happened post White House.

Unauthorized people on the docs would prove compromise of classified. In office or after.

Unauthorized plus authorized on the same doc, combined with Mar-A-Lardass security cam footage could prove an attempt to shop classified info. Example: Would anyone find it suspicious if Kushner's and MBS's prints were on nuclear secret documents? Especially in light of the 2 Billion $ payment Kushner got from the Saudi's for ???? Consulting??

That last one would be an EARTHQUAKE if proved. Julius and Ethel Rosenberg were executed in 1953 for selling secrets that included nuclear secrets to the USSR.

Captain Zero

(6,823 posts)
70. Like if Flynn's Prints showed up on a
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 09:58 PM
Aug 2022

Document that was created After HE LEFT GOVERNMENT. You get the idea.
Stone, Patel, et al.

crickets

(25,983 posts)
75. Yeppers. Funny how Kash Patel and John Solomon were suddenly added to the NARA list... later.
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 10:12 PM
Aug 2022

February letter from tfg to NARA designating his representatives:




June... hmm, wasn't there an FBI visit and a subpoena that came out around that time?
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/06/24/trump-grants-records-access-to-conservative-favored-journalist-00042343

https://www.emptywheel.net/2022/08/12/john-solomon-and-kash-patel-may-be-implicated-in-the-trump-related-espionage-act-investigation/

On June 24, two days after DOJ sent a subpoena for the surveillance footage, Betsy Woodruff Swan reported that it wasn’t just Kash who had been given privileged access to Trump’s Archives. Solomon had also been made Trump’s representative at the Archives.

That seeming coincidence — that the FBI formally asked for surveillance videos showing who had accessed Trump’s stash of stolen records on the same day that Kash and Solomon were officially added to the list of those who represented Trump’s interests with the Archives — may raise the stakes of Trump’s legal exposure significantly.

That’s because if Trump deliberately allowed people not permitted access to classified documents or his negligence allowed people to remove such documents, it would trigger other parts of the Espionage Act than the one that prohibits someone from stealing classified documents and refusing to give them back (and all are covered by the warrant).

msfiddlestix

(7,286 posts)
87. I wonder if that subpoena was complied to, and if it wasn't at the time, I wonder if it was
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 07:37 AM
Aug 2022

obtained in this week's search.

an important factoid I hope was produced somehow.

NickB79

(19,258 posts)
27. It gives them more people involved to flip by offering them deals to testify
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 07:44 PM
Aug 2022

Testify against the big fish, and maybe we knock a few years off your sentence.

NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
55. Depending on the content of the documents, that they were aware of them & had likely read them
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 09:02 PM
Aug 2022

What if some of them are not nuclear secrets but instead, personal agreements with foreign leaders that violate US law?

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
67. those not authorized will have to rat out dolt 45 to get lower sentences
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 09:38 PM
Aug 2022

and there is no way trump was the one showing those docs to paying customers

wnylib

(21,606 posts)
26. Even you and I know that you don't
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 07:43 PM
Aug 2022

touch evidence in an investigation without wearing gloves. I am sure that the FBI agents handling this case know that much, too.

wnylib

(21,606 posts)
30. And start tailing Trump and family
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 07:46 PM
Aug 2022

very closely. They might try to sidestep regular transportation and arrange their own.

Wouldn't it be funny to get pics of Trump caught at our southern border trying to sneak into Mexico illegally?

wnylib

(21,606 posts)
46. Yes, a charter flight. Or, since
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 08:25 PM
Aug 2022

he does not yet have an indictment, and since things are getting heated up for him, he might go abroad soon and just not return.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,434 posts)
62. Oops! Trump has to have his SECRET SERVICE detail!
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 09:14 PM
Aug 2022

They can't leave him. He can't tell them to buzz off. He has to be accompanied by FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT at all times. So he can't get driven to an airport without the SS going right with him. And if he tries to ditch them, they have to immediately contact their superior officer, who would put a hold on any airplane scheduled for take-off.

GregariousGroundhog

(7,526 posts)
77. About telling the Secret Service to "buzz off" - Trump actually can do that.
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 10:27 PM
Aug 2022

Richard Nixon actually waived his secret service protection in 1985, about a decade after leaving office.

wnylib

(21,606 posts)
79. As we have learned, many of the SS are compromised
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 11:33 PM
Aug 2022

as allies of Trump and not trustworthy.

Also, Trump can still go abroad with SS and not return. If he is in a country that does not have an extradition agreement with the US, there is nothing that the SS or anyone else can do about it.

I want to see Trump caught and tried. But you can be sure that he has some kind of plan set up for himself because he has no intention of ever being held accountable for anything. So, to make him accountable will require anticipating his likely moves and blocking them somehow.

Response to kpete (Original post)

meadowlander

(4,402 posts)
51. Handling documents protected by a padlock?
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 08:39 PM
Aug 2022

I'm gonna go out a limb and say it's worth the fingerprint powder to find out.

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
23. Does the FBI have Pootie's prints...
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 07:40 PM
Aug 2022

on file? Probably. Probably a lot of Russian "clerical workers" at the Embassy too.

littlemissmartypants

(22,797 posts)
28. I thought about this earlier. Glad to see it's going to happen.
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 07:45 PM
Aug 2022

I hope no-one believes that if your prints Don't show up, you're not culpable because that's just the kind of stupid thing you know who would claim..

Torchlight

(3,360 posts)
36. FBI's keeping it as clean as possible and dotting every i.
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 07:56 PM
Aug 2022

My guess is the FBI realizes the eyes of America are being directed towards them and due to that, will play this one out as starched and pressed and aboveboard as possible. The chains of evidence will be meticulous, the data analyzed with as little human bias as possible, and every word, move and message they make will be double-checked by a field supervisor.

PortTack

(32,793 posts)
37. Markie meadows, stephen miller, flynn, pillow guy, sidney powell, mo brooks, eastman
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 07:58 PM
Aug 2022

Miss anybody?

Deminpenn

(15,290 posts)
38. This means the staffers who brought the docs to Trump,
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 08:01 PM
Aug 2022

packed them up or printed them out are in big trouble.

R Merm

(407 posts)
41. I wouldn't be surprised if he
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 08:14 PM
Aug 2022

Was bringing them out for the guests at his place to look at and touch.

brooklynite

(94,727 posts)
54. What does that tell you?
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 08:52 PM
Aug 2022

If Trump handled them, how do you know if it was before or after he left office?

Mister Ed

(5,943 posts)
85. Fingerprints other than Trump's might be more interesting to the FBI.
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 05:11 AM
Aug 2022

Perhaps fingerprints belonging to persons who had no legitimate access to the docs at any time, before or after Trump left office.

neoconn

(185 posts)
56. WOWSERS!!
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 09:05 PM
Aug 2022

They ain't playing around. Looks like alphabet boys are trying to take this to the goal posts!

I thinks this is the one set of claws that ole Donnie will not be able to squirm out of.

karin_sj

(812 posts)
58. Wow! That's really something!
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 09:07 PM
Aug 2022

You just know that Trump’s chubby little fingerprints won’t be on any of them because he doesn’t like to read. But I’m sure Jared’s will be, along with assorted foes of the US from other countries…

DemocraticPatriot

(4,397 posts)
68. CAN TRUMP ACTUALLY READ???
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 09:40 PM
Aug 2022

I fear the results of this search could be disappointing...



Between Trump and W., they hold the world record for ignoring matters of national security, much less READING them...


However, in this legal instance, I believe that "possession" of these documents is TEN-TENTHS of the law! Doesn't seem to matter worth a damn whether he actually read them, or not... The point is, that he TOOK THEM.


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