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Huffpost: TFG and family watched most of FBI search on MaLago's CCTV as it occurred... (Original Post) allegorical oracle Aug 2022 OP
He and his attorney are deliberately lying viva la Aug 2022 #1
If his lawyer is lying you would think he would be facing an ethics investigation though. cstanleytech Aug 2022 #15
Can't say that anything Trump does is "deliberate". jaxexpat Aug 2022 #32
"Perpetually lying" viva la Aug 2022 #34
No Witnesses, Eh? GB_RN Aug 2022 #2
A video of that would be useful in proving the FBI did/didn't plant evidence Victor_c3 Aug 2022 #3
I wonder if the CCTV recording can be submitted as evidence? n/t msfiddlestix Aug 2022 #4
I know they got CCTV from Log O' Merde, but they really need to get it from where they Scrivener7 Aug 2022 #9
✔️ Ty n/t msfiddlestix Aug 2022 #11
Timmy the pool boy suddenly has a mansion and a yacht. Scrivener7 Aug 2022 #12
Twas a sad day for comedy when Jay Ward exited this mortal coil. Where is moose? jaxexpat Aug 2022 #33
The storage hard drives are usually on the same network LuvLoogie Aug 2022 #27
DAYUM, I had not even thought of that. OF COURSE they had surveillance cameras. Ferrets are Cool Aug 2022 #5
It is good that it happened this way, gab13by13 Aug 2022 #6
Trump's lawyer was present for the search PJMcK Aug 2022 #7
+1 dalton99a Aug 2022 #17
Release the video! blogslug Aug 2022 #8
Quite possibly the FBI also has a recording of the search. tavernier Aug 2022 #10
I saw reporting to the effect of no video recording Claustrum Aug 2022 #13
Yeah that makes sense. tavernier Aug 2022 #22
Donnie lied? Say it ain't so. paleotn Aug 2022 #14
Reality TV star watching his demise on TV. Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #16
It does seem ironic, no? SKKY Aug 2022 #21
Irony abounds. Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #23
Person, woman, man, camera, TV. Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2022 #18
MORE FUKKIN' FAKE NEWS. Did you ever try to watch shit on a CCTV 3Hotdogs Aug 2022 #19
... tanyev Aug 2022 #37
The FBI ordered the cameras turned off when they arrived Jarqui Aug 2022 #20
That TV news reader sure can lawyer! Kid Berwyn Aug 2022 #28
According to Bobb, the cameras were turned back on after she complained. LeftInTX Aug 2022 #39
I saw that Jarqui Aug 2022 #40
Well...they COULD HAVE planted evidence. WHAT IF they planted evidence? Mr. Ected Aug 2022 #24
He whined "they made my attorney stay outside in the hot sun." louis-t Aug 2022 #25
Oh and another thing. If the agents brought in boxes of documents to plant louis-t Aug 2022 #26
Oh, he watched it as it happened? EnergizedLib Aug 2022 #29
Yeah, the FBI made that known yesterday afternoon Farmer-Rick Aug 2022 #30
Wonder if he has cameras in all the rooms? ... aggiesal Aug 2022 #31
His good friend Jeffrey probably wired them up. Scrivener7 Aug 2022 #35
K&R for visibility. crickets Aug 2022 #36
Ugh...I knew he watched on CCTV LeftInTX Aug 2022 #38

jaxexpat

(6,852 posts)
32. Can't say that anything Trump does is "deliberate".
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 10:01 AM
Aug 2022

That implies some forethought and at least "localized" logic. Perhaps it would be more appropriate and accurate to say, "instinctively lying" or "reflexively lying".

GB_RN

(2,384 posts)
2. No Witnesses, Eh?
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 07:19 AM
Aug 2022

Since when has tRump, or his lawyer, ever told the truth - deliberately. It only happens in slip-of-the-tongue moments like this.

You know Dolt45’s lying when his lips are moving.

Victor_c3

(3,557 posts)
3. A video of that would be useful in proving the FBI did/didn't plant evidence
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 07:25 AM
Aug 2022

I suspect any recording might end up being deleted by trump.

Scrivener7

(51,021 posts)
9. I know they got CCTV from Log O' Merde, but they really need to get it from where they
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 07:46 AM
Aug 2022

were watching.

Those things sat in that room for 18 months. We need to know who made copies.

Scrivener7

(51,021 posts)
12. Timmy the pool boy suddenly has a mansion and a yacht.
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 07:59 AM
Aug 2022

At the same time as Petrov, our valuable ally in Spotsylvania, has fallen out of a fifth floor window.

jaxexpat

(6,852 posts)
33. Twas a sad day for comedy when Jay Ward exited this mortal coil. Where is moose?
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 10:06 AM
Aug 2022

Yes, Fearless Leader. Of course, Fearless Leader.

LuvLoogie

(7,036 posts)
27. The storage hard drives are usually on the same network
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 09:19 AM
Aug 2022

as the cameras. Watching remotely can be done over the internet via a browser and secure login.

Ferrets are Cool

(21,110 posts)
5. DAYUM, I had not even thought of that. OF COURSE they had surveillance cameras.
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 07:29 AM
Aug 2022

And OF COURSE, they were watching ever moment of this go down. What I wouldn't give for a video of his reaction during this search.

gab13by13

(21,408 posts)
6. It is good that it happened this way,
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 07:31 AM
Aug 2022

but 9 times out of 10 the people being searched are not present during the search. It is not common procedure to have a lawyer observing the search.

PJMcK

(22,052 posts)
7. Trump's lawyer was present for the search
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 07:37 AM
Aug 2022

She even signed the receipt.

Trump's allegation that the FBI planted evidence is just more BS without a shred of evidence. Let's see his lawyers try to make that case in court. Without evidence they'll be shut down. In fact, the government could probably demand that the lawyer who was there be forced to testify.

Trump is so transparent. Lock him up.

blogslug

(38,018 posts)
8. Release the video!
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 07:39 AM
Aug 2022

I would watch the shit out of the FBI confiscating boxes from Donny's house. In a perfect world there would be video of them watching the video, freaking out and yelling at each other while it happens...

Whoa. I think I just wrote the cold open for this season's premiere of SNL.

tavernier

(12,406 posts)
10. Quite possibly the FBI also has a recording of the search.
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 07:54 AM
Aug 2022

We heard there were a lot of agents there. One may have been there to document the search of the documents. I reckon Garland anticipated all of their excuses.

Claustrum

(4,846 posts)
13. I saw reporting to the effect of no video recording
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 08:06 AM
Aug 2022

During the search because they don’t want any leaks. With so many agents and so many rooms to search, one person wouldn’t be able to capture the whole search.

Irish_Dem

(47,453 posts)
23. Irony abounds.
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 08:47 AM
Aug 2022

The GOP made Trump, now they are unmaking him.
Trump's ego made him POTUS, now his ego is taking him down.

I could go on and on.

Jarqui

(10,130 posts)
20. The FBI ordered the cameras turned off when they arrived
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 08:36 AM
Aug 2022

This contradicts her position on the day of the search:


Here she says the cameras were only off for a short period of time

On Monday, she complained that she was unable to watch the search and that the cameras had been turned off at the request of the FBI (because they could be looking at classified documents/material) and therefore, she was concerned the FBI would plant evidence.

Trump and another Trump lawyer also floated planting of evidence Monday.

But now they're saying they watched nearly the whole search on CCTV. So where is the CCTV showing the agents planting 39 boxes of evidence?

Hopefully, the FBI subpoenas that video (as they have in the past) to make sure copies of classified docs are not made and Trump doesn't doctor it.

LeftInTX

(25,567 posts)
39. According to Bobb, the cameras were turned back on after she complained.
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 06:53 PM
Aug 2022


Meanwhile, Bobb said she was "stuck in the parking lot" of Mar-a-Lago, "there to collect paper and answer questions."

"But they were actually able to see the whole thing," Bobb added of Trump and his family, though it's unclear which family members were with him at the time. "They actually have a better idea of what took place inside."

Bobb claimed that the FBI had initially told them to turn off security cameras in Mar-a-Lago and the staff complied — until "the lawyers stepped in."

"Shortly after, they turned them back on," she said, "so the cameras were only off for a very short period of time."

https://people.com/politics/trump-attorney-says-he-and-family-watched-fbi-search-via-security-feed/

She was stuck in the parking lot and couldn't watch, but Trump got to watch on CCTV in New York

Jarqui

(10,130 posts)
40. I saw that
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 07:17 PM
Aug 2022

It is not what she said the day of the search.

She used the cameras being turned off and her inability to see the search as grounds to suggest the FBI was planting evidence.

Trump attorney: No proof 'something wasn't planted' in FBI raid of Mar-a-Lago
https://www.rawstory.com/christina-bobb-trump-raid/




I can't find the article with her claim about the cameras. She reported the FBI had them turned off and never claimed they had been turned back on. Her complaint was that without the cameras or her ability to observe, the FBI could be planting evidence.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
24. Well...they COULD HAVE planted evidence. WHAT IF they planted evidence?
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 08:48 AM
Aug 2022

You know you can't trust THEM. THEY do this all the time, you never hear anything about it, do you?

Why aren't we investigating THEM? They're the ones trying to ruin our country!

It COULD HAVE happened. Therefore it did. Or something else did.

What were we talking about again?

*Trump Talk*

louis-t

(23,297 posts)
25. He whined "they made my attorney stay outside in the hot sun."
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 09:15 AM
Aug 2022

So he can continue the 'planted evidence' lie. He declassified the documents....that the FBI planted?

louis-t

(23,297 posts)
26. Oh and another thing. If the agents brought in boxes of documents to plant
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 09:17 AM
Aug 2022

and his attorney was 'forced to stay outside in the hot sun' wouldn't the attorney have seen them bringing in the boxes?

Farmer-Rick

(10,212 posts)
30. Yeah, the FBI made that known yesterday afternoon
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 09:49 AM
Aug 2022

But it's good that we focus on it now since Soo much info came out yesterday.

I'm sure Trump knew it was recorded when he claimed the FBI was planting evidence and supposedly trashed his trashy hotel golf course.

He's such a liar he can't help but make obvious lies on top of obvious lies.

Of course there are tapes. Does law enforcement act anymore without them?

LeftInTX

(25,567 posts)
38. Ugh...I knew he watched on CCTV
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 06:43 PM
Aug 2022

I could tell by his voice on my TV that he had witnessed everything.

On Monday, I'm sitting at my computer. The TV is in another room. I suddenly hear Trump's loud voice, "They raided everything!!" He was going into detail. I'm so out of the loop, that I didn't know Trump's home was being search, but his voice on TV told me everything.

I read his lawyer negotiated to have them turned on. (But I could be wrong)

I'm sure the FBI would notice if cameras had been turned on illegally.

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