Josh Marshall on the legal advice Trump is getting:

[tblue37]

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Josh Marshall
@joshtpm
People aren’t figuring in the full implications of the last 48 hrs. The ex president is making a false claim of authority (in pectore declassification) and packaging it in a demonstrable lie (the standing order). He appears not to be getting any legal advice at all.

Josh Marshall
@joshtpm

2/ Not bad legal advice. Any legal advice. His current lawyers are an unknown lawyer from New Jersey and a former OAN host. But it seems unlikely even they’re advising him on this. It all suggests a complete implosion and panic in Trumpworld.

[genxlib]

1. You know what they say

You get what you pay for

[DBoon]

11. a defendant who represents himself

has a fool for a client and a fool for a lawyer

[AKwannabe]

2. Well. The big fat asshole

Thinks he knows all. In fact, he thinks he is god. And his magats think he was sent by god.
Big head. Hopefully HUUUUUGE fall. Tiny hands that won’t stop the fall.

[Meadowoak]

4. Bigly.

[Karadeniz]

3. I don't want him to take the coward's way out, suicide. I want him sentenced and hauled off to

prison. If his lawyers were remotely interested in justice, they'd paint a rosy picture to him to keep him alive to face justice.

[DBoon]

12. I bet many of his follwers will expect him to come back from the dead

I imagine a group waiting graveside for him to dig himself out and proclaim himself to be the resurrection of the Lord

[colorado_ufo]

21. Not happening.

He would flee the country instead and live in a hotel he opens up somewhere, such as Moscow or Saudi Arabia. And he would take a lot of our country's money with him.

[vlyons]

23. I don't assume that he has as much money as he pretends to have

Probably has a few $100M squirreled away in an offshore bank somewhere. But if he flees an indictment, the Feds will probably freeze all his bank accounts here. He won't be able to get any loans. He will be a pariah, and he's well on his way to being one now.

[colorado_ufo]

30. I don't mean he has it.

I mean he will steal it.

[Escurumbele]

40. From where? The only source of income that is available to him is the bunch of idiots who send

him money, its all from grift. If that is what you mean? Then yes, that is a possibility.

[The Bopper]

44. You're assuming

Jerrod and Ivanka won’t use a couple of hundred million to keep him happy from the 2 billion they got from the Saudis. I doubt the Feds can touch those billions since I’d bet the checks are from MBS himself.

[The Roux Comes First]

34. While I am Wary of His Maggots Trying to Turn Him Into a Martyr, They Are Fully of That Mind Already

Go find yourself a bridge, yam. Way overdue.

But he's not brave enough for that.

[Joinfortmill]

37. 👍

[flying_wahini]

46. Me too. I want him to suffer in prison.

[unblock]

5. What use is legal advice? he is the one, rewriting the code of the matrix

At least, that's Donnie's perspective.

Lawyers are only good within the system donnie is trying to break.

[COL Mustard]

41. He's playing 6-D chess

Games that haven’t been invented yet, using astrophysical rules that only he understands! Everything else is just the Deep State and if you don’t understand that, you’re either stupid or a part of the plot!!!


See, it all fits together now.

[elleng]

6. 'a complete implosion and panic in Trumpworld.'

[Wounded Bear]

8. He used up his creds with bankers in the 90's. He turned to Russia...

are there any Russian lawyers he can hire?

[dalton99a]

9. Trump knows more about the law than the lawyers

Believe me

[agingdem]

20. and because Trump is the definition of the Dunning Kruger effect and

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a deranged malignant narcissist with a lifetime of destruction and zero accountability, he's confident this too shall pass and he can resume his grifting, revenge rallies, and endorsing wife beaters, sexual assaulters, and Neo-Nazis after a week or two of feigned contrition...

and you can bet he's on the phone scheming with Bannon, Stone, Flynn, and the rest of his likeminded seditious lunatics,

[Joinfortmill]

38. 👍

[AKwannabe]

22. Trust me

Lol

[Raven]

13. He's talking to (or at) his base. He knows them best and he needs them more

than he needs lawyers at this point. It's a huge gamble, but I think he's counting on a blood-letting and he knows they will follow him to hell (or jail), if necessary.

[certainot]

26. yes. he's following a script republicans know well. whatever he says will be spun for his benefit

by the modern karl roves and repeated by a few hundred trained liars on 1500 radio stations, fox, and a few web sites

what has changed though is he killed the horse he rode in on by pushing limbaugh to delay and miss treatments and now central messaging rots in missouri somewhere. without limbaugh the excuses and rationalizations and deflections are not centralized

without Limbaugh i wouldn't be surprised if some of the lesser blowhards might be straying toward dropping off, maybe rating the local hamburger joints instead of defending him, or just sticking to attacking biden and dems

[ashredux]

14. Trump Toast

[trusty elf]

35. ...

[GreenWave]

15. The old adage reigns supreme!

He cannot fool ALL the people ALL the time.

[Traildogbob]

16. The best advisors

Money can buy. Fox. Brilliant minds all.

[Jarqui]

17. Most of us are capable of giving Trump the good legal advice he rarely follows:

STFU

I say rarely because he did invoke the fifth 440 times on Thursday.
He appears to have found a good lawyer for his GA election case.

But with this wacky crew:
Lin Wood (state bar successfully ordered a mental health examination and facing potential disbarment)
Sidney Powell (currently fighting TX sanctions from frivolous election cases including potential disbarment)
Rudy Giuliani (NY & DC suspended his law license)
Christina Bobb (deep into big lie, OAN legal analyst, alleged potential plating of evidence by FBI)
Alina Habba (apparently Trump lawyers think she's incompetent, she attacks the judges she faces and has a very checkered track record, suggested the FBI may have planted evidence)

TFG is beat before he gets started.

Some of that is due to who Trump is, what he does and how difficult it is to get paid.

[3Hotdogs]

32. Dunno. I think you're wrong about Sidney Powell.

When the Kraken gets ahold of Chrissy Wray;s sorry ass......

[mopinko]

18. good.

[Warpy]

19. Unless he put on a pink tutu and used a magic wand

he was incapable of pronouncing those documents magically declassified. There was a procedure to be followed that he didn't bother with.

Maher and I are on the same page with this one. I said a couple of days ago and he said on his sow last night that when they were hastily packing up the White House because the Bidens were moving in there in a few hours, that he just directed packers to grab boxes of files willy nilly, not knowing or caring what was in them, he was the president for a few more hours and by gum, they were his. Remember, this is a dumb guy who runs on rage and spite.

What a careful forensic examination might turn up (at best) is a set of well defined fingerprints belonging to Jared Kushner, who is not quite as dumb and who might have realized their sale value.

Failing that, we have to assume that little actual harm was done, that the files were just the remaining trappings of office he was clinging to out of sheer spite because he will always think he was robboed of something that was riightfully his.

I do hope this will result in a prison term. Oh, yes, indeed.

[bringthePaine]

27. yes and besides that, Rudy is the tutu-wearer in that crowd (ok, maybe not JUST Rudy...🤣)

[question everything]

24. As an aside, thanks for pasting the text of the twit

[tblue37]

31. You're welcome. I always do that.

[DownriverDem]

25. Maybe like Nixon

everyone around trump will end up in jail, but not trump. What could the DOJ possibly offer trump? Nixon got to live out his life with SS protection by just going away.

[The Jungle 1]

28. Just a regular splat

[Hermit-The-Prog]

29. I won't laugh until he's at least indicted, but this is worth a snicker and sneer.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

33. What false claim? Hadn't seen news in 3 days

[Joinfortmill]

36. I do hope so.

[Escurumbele]

39. EX-PRESIDENT...That is how he should be called, he doesn't understand what "former" means and,

in my opinion, its too subtle. I have a feeling that using "EX" will hurt his feelings big time, so why not use it?

[liberal N proud]

42. Would TFG listen to any legal advise anyway?

He is an out of control

[GopherGal]

43. His actions likely have no relationship to what kind of legal advice he's receiving...

He could be receiving the best legal advice in the world, but if it's not what he wants to hear, he's not going to heed it. He thinks he knows better than all the experts.

[link:https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/the-guy-wontpay-and-he-wont-listen-top-law-firms-refused-trump-defense-offer-report-says/|]

[Progressive dog]

45. Trump does nat take advice

unless he agrees with it. He is infallible. He never loses. He is perfect. He is a psychopath.