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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAny chance that clemency granted as part of a criminal enterprise could be cancelled?
And people are asking about cancelling the Supreme Court appointments of a criminal.
Anyone got answers to tell people who are asking here and there on social media?
elleng
(130,908 posts)imagining the government-wide consequences are way beyond my current capacity.
LeftInTX
(25,336 posts)These were criminal cases that were pardoned.
Just like when a jury renders a "non-guilty" verdict, these can't be undone.
Now if they said person is part of criminal organization themselves, perhaps further charges could be filed.
Sympthsical
(9,073 posts)Constitutionally, the powers are the powers.
Supreme Court justices will only go if they die, resign, or two thirds of the Senate convicts them.
Secondly, imagine what could be managed should the other side have power. "Oh, hey. Let's prosecute my political enemies, get their pardons undone, and undo their Supreme Court choices."
Mitch McConnell is an example of someone who is not shy about using the powers available to him. Do we need to imagine what he'd manage if given greater powers like these?
These fantasies people keep having during all this would in reality be nightmares.
It's the cardinal rule of government - any weapon we fashion will come back, oftentimes incomparably harsher and with implications we never dreamed of.
People seem to think Republicans will never be in major power again. I remember during Bush, "It's the end of the Republican Party!" I feel like I've been hearing that one my entire life.
It is never the end of anyone in a two party system. There is no blue pot of gold at the end of any rainbow. The Right will always exist and need to be dealt with and - yes - tolerated to varying degrees.
People who entertain authoritarian impulses on social media worry me. It shows how paper thin democracy is. When people think they're anonymous and in secret, they have all kinds of wishes for other humans, and rights and freedoms are often at the bottom of it.
Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)No and no.
The Constitution is really, really clear about the fact that a Supreme Court justice must die, resign or be impeached.
Each Supreme Court justice was appointed by a president with the advice and consent of the Senate.
This is the same stupid shit that the Obama birthers used to believe - if they could show the presidency was somehow "illegitimate" then it would magically reverse everything done by that president.
Are we going to take back all the money paid to federal employees and military under the budgets signed by the same criminal enterprise, or is that different through some "stuff I pulled out of my ass" principle?
Gonna tear up the interstate highways built under the same budgets?
If not, then explain which "things done by that president" get reversed and which ones don't.