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The group targeted sites l the city of Toulouse, calling golf the "leisure industry of the most privileged".
The exemption of golf greens has sparked controversy as 100 French villages are short of drinking water.
In a petition, the activists said the exemption showed that "economic madness takes precedence over ecological reason".
While residents cannot water their gardens or wash their cars in the worst-hit municipalities, golf courses have escaped the nationwide restrictions.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-62532840
Tetrachloride
(7,844 posts)what they could have done.
this link should work
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-62532840
msongs
(67,406 posts)alphafemale
(18,497 posts)If they want to pay fines all good.
But they probably don't have jobs let alone a bank account.
Duppers
(28,120 posts)They were trying to make a good point imho.
alphafemale
(18,497 posts)Just wondering.
Lars39
(26,109 posts)dont have enough drinking water. That prioritization is screwed up.
alphafemale
(18,497 posts)I won't stop you.
Lars39
(26,109 posts)All for a stupid game played by [redacted] in stupid clothing.
Golf sucks on many levels. I hope it dies out completely.
Hugh_Lebowski
(33,643 posts)and it's something golf courses think nothing of throwing away anyway.
Sure it's vandalism and they didn't have a 'right to do it', but it's really pretty minor.
Guarantee it was a lot cheaper to fix than it was cleaning the spray paint off the Federal Building in Portland back in 2020.
alphafemale
(18,497 posts)I will come in and destroy something of yours worth just $5
Several times a day.
Sounds like you will be alright with that.
Golf is a rich man's game and you're defending it. OK.
alphafemale
(18,497 posts)LOL
ProfessorGAC
(65,042 posts)Over 75% of regularly playing golfers (in the US) have household incomes of 90k or less.
I don't care if you like golf, or don't, and I think we agree that the exemption for golf greens is shortsighted or the part of local government.
But, it's simply ancient history, & current myth, that golf is a rich person's game.
Conjuay
(1,385 posts)I'm sure they would prefer drinking water to golf courses.
And if that was intended to be snarky, it just made you come off as the 'wreck everything that doesn't bring me in a buck' capitalist the world hates.
alphafemale
(18,497 posts)If you do pay the fine.
GoneOffShore
(17,339 posts)alphafemale
(18,497 posts)I think vandalism is wrong!
Thtwudbeme
(7,737 posts)Nt
alphafemale
(18,497 posts)It isn't hard.
USALiberal
(10,877 posts)alphafemale
(18,497 posts)Which should be fined or even get jail time.
I don't want some jerk punk destroying my stuff.
Ponietz
(2,971 posts)They have no legal rights. They are property. The fine owed to them is incalculable and unpayable. Thats the problem with the common lawits all about ownershipand that golf course is probably owned by an inchoate corporate entity, anyway. Theres a new paradigm.
Hugh_Lebowski
(33,643 posts)Making a new hole takes one person like 15 minutes and requires maybe $5 worth of materials.
alphafemale
(18,497 posts)I didn't think so.
Emile
(22,751 posts)It takes water to harden cement. If the golf course watered the green and the dry powdered cement got wet, who is at fault?
alphafemale
(18,497 posts)Dear gawd is it still 1978?
Emile
(22,751 posts)alphafemale
(18,497 posts)I think it is a long boring game, but many people seem to enjoy it.
Recreation should be one of the first water sources shut off.
Including water parks and public and private pools.
Duppers
(28,120 posts)Growing enough food for people and animals is more important than any form of recreation.
canetoad
(17,160 posts)Pools and water parks are mostly patronized by inner suburban reisdents. That is, those who do not have access to beaches, lakes, GOLF COURSES, etc.
Priorities, pet. As we say in Australia.
alphafemale
(18,497 posts)Many things are going to need a shift in thinking in probably the next decade or so.
Waterscape fountain decorations, too. They loose a lot of water through evaporation.
jimfields33
(15,803 posts)Close them down at least all outside pools. Eventually we will have to ban pools at peoples homes as well. Its not worth the destructive water waste. Were In a water emergency and unnecessary pools must go.
EX500rider
(10,848 posts)Depending where you live, eight billion gallons of water flow from Florida's springs each day. Most flows into the ocean to become saltwater.
GoneOffShore
(17,339 posts)twodogsbarking
(9,749 posts)This does nothing.
hatrack
(59,587 posts).
BumRushDaShow
(129,004 posts)It actually "made the news" and we are reading about it from thousands of miles away, so it definitely did not do "nothing".
twodogsbarking
(9,749 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,004 posts)(which was probably the main goal here)
twodogsbarking
(9,749 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,004 posts)to make a change in the "exemptions".
This thing about golf courses has been an on-going issue for decades even here in the U.S. - particularly during times when the course is in a drought area.
Some solutions have been proffered over the years including having the courses watered via underground soakers vs sprinklers where there is more waste and runoff.
But otherwise, when you are demanding that people conserve water yet the water usage at a private facility has no such restriction, then you are going to set yourself up for some backlash, and certainly these concrete plugs are minor when someone can simply drive one of those Ukraine tractors across the place and tear up all the sod, and that's the end of that.
alphafemale
(18,497 posts)OK
BumRushDaShow
(129,004 posts)Working link - https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-62532840
NCjack
(10,279 posts)Marthe48
(16,960 posts)Whether a golf course, or 2 acres of grass around a 3 br home, the ground could be better used for trees, gardens, or left alone.
mopinko
(70,104 posts)maybe we should bring that back.
the 1st 'ecoterrorist' that i am aware came form my hometown. the fox, after the river.
he once took a couple 5 gal buckets of effluent from a. u.s. steel plant, somehow got into the ceo's office, and dumped them all over his white shag carpet.
he also used cement to plug up outflows from a soap plant. armor/dial.
the fox is now clean enough for recreation, and has bald eagles all along it's course.
no one ever got hurt, like these guys he made the papers.
some clever stunts like this might help move the ball.
CoopersDad
(2,193 posts)I reject any arguments that the golf course property is somehow sacrosanct because it's a group or business's "property".
"Property" should neither conceptually nor actually confer rights to groundwater, which should be treated as a public commons and managed as a commodity held in the public trust.
Carving out an exclusion for the golf courses needs to be rejected, and sometimes there needs to be consequences.
hunter
(38,312 posts)... even if entire towns go dry.
This goes on until the deepest wells go dry.
I don't know about France, but in California it's not the golf courses that are the biggest problem. I'd say it's the dairy industry, and in some places, the vineyards. But nobody wants to talk about that. Those industries are sacred.
Sky Jewels
(7,096 posts)If I were the Leader of the World golf would be illegal everywhere.
gulliver
(13,180 posts)Activists who elect themselves to action are a curse. All they do is harm the cause of uniting to fight climate change. I mean, who voted for these folks to do what they did?