The US would have been better off using the 25th Amendment

[Thtwudbeme]

I am aware that was not a real possibility- because for some reason, those around Trump were terrified of him.

He is becoming more unhinged as the FBI is closing in on him, and it appears that Ivanka has abandoned the Trump brand.

Frankly, I think Melania will leave him soon....and she and her folks will try to keep Baron away from his father and siblings.

I don't think he has any concept of how the government works....none. I think he lost his mind at some point in the WH. We all knew it; we all saw it in real time.

[Progressive dog]

1. That depends on what happens now.

If he is arrested, convicted, and jailed for some of his crimes, our democracy may be safe from psychopathic autocrats for a time.
Our democracy will be even safer if a lot of his enablers end up in jail too.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

2. ....

Our democracy will be even safer if a lot of his enablers end up in jail too.

Also if a lot of his armed supporters end up like that MAGAt in Ohio, then our democracy will be that much safer and the gene pool will be less contaminated.

[SoCalDavidS]

4. I Expect None Of Those Things To Happen

Jailed? Not a chance. I’ll be shocked if he’s even charged.

And his enablers? Those in Congress who helped? They’ll continue getting re-elected without consequences or accountability.

I’ll believe otherwise when I see it.

[Progressive dog]

6. Trump finally went too far

IMO He will be charged with some crimes. The FBI found lots of evidence that Trump did commit the crimes specified in the warrant.

[SoCalDavidS]

13. He Always Goes Too Far

I've been hearing about his imminent arrest for years.

I know they found evidence, but I'll believe he's going to be indicted when I see it.

[Thtwudbeme]

5. I don't know if I agree or disagree with that

I feel like he should have been removed sooner rather than later. If he goes to jail now, we are still going to have to hear from the fruitloops and Q-anon jerks like MTG-

Hard to say.

[Fiendish Thingy]

3. It looks like the J6 committee will be addressing the failure to invoke the 25th

They’ve been interviewing former Trump cabinet members.

[dutch777]

12. While the 25th is clearly flawed on many levels, no chance the states will ratify a change

And that is even if Congress takes up the matter beyond whatever the J6 committee says or does. Too many Repug leaning states and not nearly enough urgency to get this high on anyone's agenda. Like the Electoral College and other flaws in the Constitution, unless polarization becomes much less or wildly favors one party over another in vote counts, we are likely stuck with the Constitution as is.

[Irish_Dem]

7. GOP is so power hungry that they allowed a man who is dangerous to remain president.

A man who was not just incompetent but a clear and present danger to our national security.
And they all knew it and were terrified.

[onenote]

8. Even if they had, what difference would it have made?

Let's imagine the VP and a majority of the Cabinet send the required statement that Trump is unable to perform the duties of the office. Trump immediately sends the counter-notice contemplated by the terms of the amendment. Then, assume, the VP and majority of the Cabinet send the counter-counter-notice contemplated by the terms of the amendment.

At that point, Congress, which was in session at the time, would have 21 days to determine, by a 2/3 majority vote of both houses, that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of the office. Until that vote is taken, Pence would remain "Acting President."

So, assuming the 25th was invoked, Congress could sit on its hands until January 21, at which point it all becomes moot. Or it could vote, which would have resulted in Trump having his powers restored since there is zero chance that 2/3 of the House and Senate would go along.

Finally, there also is the likelihood that Trump would, in addition to sending the counter notice, immediately go to court challenging the use of the amendment on the grounds that there is no evidence to indicate he is unable to discharge the powers and duties of the office and that disagreement with how he acts is not a basis for invoking the amendment (as contrasted with being unable to act). The courts probably would not want anything to do with that case, so the clock would probably run out, with Trump's legions convinced he was railroaded and even more crazed than they already were (to the extent that is even possible).

[Thtwudbeme]

10. I know, and I agree with you

He just still seems to be able to drag this country further down a rabbit hole to the 9th circle.

[modrepub]

11. If TFG Is Willing To Sic The Mob On His Own VP

he would have gladly told Faux News, the right-wind media, and his followers that "he was overthrown". None of these folks would have been willing to stare down the sh-t storm TFG would have unleashed. Though, his "mob" is mostly bark and no bite.

[Baitball Blogger]

9. It is very upsetting to find out that none of the stopgaps that the founding fathers put in place

work in today's climate.