I saw one news report that says Trump wants his documents back but I can't post it

[Demsrule86]

as it comes from a rightie source...anyone else heard this? I did google it and saw no other such report. The report is an hour old.

[MissMillie]

1. Well, legally, he is entitled to petition to get them back

If a judge determines that they were taken from him illegally, he gets them back.


His record of petitioning the courts isn't exactly stellar. This could be due to a complete misunderstanding of the law.

[Ocelot II]

3. If wasn't his personal property in the first place he doesn't get it back.

[MissMillie]

27. Like I said, the caveat is that the material would have had to have been taken from him ILLEGALLY

Obviously, it wasn't taken FROM HIM illegally.

[Demsrule86]

4. I did not realize that MissMillie...thanks. I was shocked at this.

[Ocelot II]

7. He's not getting any classified documents back.

[Demsrule86]

8. Hopefully he will get some handcuffs and off to the pokey for him.

[MissMillie]

29. Of course he isn't

Because taking them away from him was not illegal, nor a violation of his rights.

Keep in mind, he's the person claiming that DOJ acted improperly. If he really believes that he can petition for the return of the items that were taken.

That's not going to happen. If a court were to rule against him (and any court most certainly would) he'd have to quit his manufactured rage.

[Ocelot II]

2. Wouldn't surprise me.

According to various reports TFG always regarded anything generated in the White House by or for him as his personal property and cared not at all if some were highly classified, since he also didn’t give a damn about national security or the IC, which he disliked and mistrusted. Even apart from the strong possibility that he wanted those documents for nefarious purposes, he wanted to keep them because he thought they were his, and he hates it when anybody tries to take his stuff. So of course he wants all that government property that he thinks is his own.

[Demsrule86]

5. Trump is such piece of crap...God I will be glad to hear the last of him!

[TheBlackAdder]

26. Here's a RawStory link.

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https://www.rawstory.com/donald-trump-mar-a-lago-2657861053/

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[Vinca]

6. He's now claiming there were papers that involved attorney/client privilege. Uh huh.

He must be considering the attorney who was dumb enough to sign a form saying Trump had turned everything over.

[Demsrule86]

10. I wonder if his financial crimes were documented in the papers?

Wouldn't that be sweet...

[Ocelot II]

12. A judge can make that determination, but that privilege isn't absolute.

There’s a thing called the crime/fraud exception, which vitiates the privilege if the lawyer was involved in the commission of the client’s crime. In TFG’s case, and considering the sleaziness of his lawyers, there was probably a lot of non-privileged criming going on.

[rsdsharp]

18. He's also claiming executive privilege for some.

I’m sure that’s gonna fly.

[Arazi]

22. If it falls under "executive privilege" then it still goes to the archives

[blogslug]

20. the noodle test of the day

They keep throwing pasta at the wall

Link to tweet

Seth Masket @smotus

Important to remember that these constantly shifting excuses aren’t legal arguments and likely won’t look anything like a court defense. They’re talking points for Trump’s defenders to repeat endlessly on TV until he comes up with the next one.

[RockRaven]

9. He "truthed" something, yeah. Complete with some fake official legal language that his dumb

mob brain thinks makes it sound authoritative.

[Demsrule86]

11. He definitely acts like a mob boss...

[Demsrule86]

15. He is so dumb. When my Dad was in waste handling in New York before he started his own

company, he had to do business with the mob...He told me that they were not smart but that made them even more dangerous. He always said never let them do favors for them.

[IbogaProject]

13. Let him sign an affidavit under penalty of purjury

Asking for what claims are his items. Anything he doesn't identify and make a reasonable claim to stays in the case. Call his bluff AG Garland.

[Demsrule86]

16. Nothing is his if I read the presidential records act correctly.

[IbogaProject]

23. I'm not saying he's right

I'm merely suggesting we lob a challenge back at him and suggest he must do it under penalty of perjury. Weaken his thin pleas further. Its all about the sound bite, for now.

[gulliver]

24. Yep, if he had the documents rightfully and fought to keep them, why doesn't he ask for them back?

That's a way to show he thinks he was in the right by keeping the documents. If he doesn't ask for them back, he's admitting he was in the wrong in keeping them.

[bluestarone]

14. Sounds more to me like

He just pleaded GUILTY to HIM taking the documents! Look at what he said Judge!!

[Demsrule86]

17. That is true...going to be hard to blame others now.

[bluestarone]

19. Back at ya!

We got the Fucker! (I hope)

[brooklynite]

21. Trump Truth Social post...

Link to tweet

[Saboburns]

25. And me.

I want a rainbow-colored unicorn that shits perfect chicken tenders, $100 bills, and pees the best ice-cold lager.

And I wouldn't mind having my age decrease 1 year every birthday for the next 25 years.

[Ms. Toad]

28. Too bad, so sad. They aren't his documents. n/t