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scary neighbor (Original Post) Demovictory9 Aug 2022 OP
Seems like severe mental illness budkin Aug 2022 #1
she definitely should not be allowed to stand under someone's window with a noose Demovictory9 Aug 2022 #2
Yep. rubbersole Aug 2022 #3
Yeah, insanity is an issue there. Cops/authorities should do more... brush Aug 2022 #4
She looks nice..... Bayard Aug 2022 #5
Ex school teacher. Emile Aug 2022 #7
Dispite what everyone tells us about reporting Woodswalker Aug 2022 #6
You are correct about current laws however... Handler Aug 2022 #9
That is not what the cops have done in this case. ShazzieB Aug 2022 #15
100 to 1 she's a MAGAT. NoMoreRepugs Aug 2022 #8
SICK ad placement next to this video on my computer. Disgusting. BamaRefugee Aug 2022 #10
wow...that's weird Demovictory9 Aug 2022 #12
Jesus! lunatica Aug 2022 #11
Is there no terroristic threatening statute there? Hermit-The-Prog Aug 2022 #13
I think Sgt Nathan West (Sam Jackson) said it best: discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2022 #14
BS that the owner has not evicted her. A nuisance and damage like she has done vacates the lease Ziggysmom Aug 2022 #16
The sane homegirl Aug 2022 #17
betting 10 dollars she didn't vote FOR Biden YoshidaYui Aug 2022 #18
Something is really wrong here Warpy Aug 2022 #19
THIS! Hekate Aug 2022 #21
When mental institutions were shut down, wnylib Aug 2022 #24
Danger to self or others has been too narrowly defined Warpy Aug 2022 #25
As the mental health issues of more and more people wnylib Aug 2022 #26
Baker Act Conjuay Aug 2022 #20
She needs an emergency mental heath eval Joinfortmill Aug 2022 #22
Remind the landlord of LAWSUIT! bluestarone Aug 2022 #23

brush

(53,778 posts)
4. Yeah, insanity is an issue there. Cops/authorities should do more...
Sun Aug 14, 2022, 03:43 PM
Aug 2022

before this ends in tragedy.

 

Woodswalker

(549 posts)
6. Dispite what everyone tells us about reporting
Sun Aug 14, 2022, 04:03 PM
Aug 2022

INSANE behavior the cops will still show up and ask you "did she harm anyone" and when you tell them not yet they tell you well we'll make a note of it and leave. That's why this red flag law solution to stopping whackjobs before they kill you won't work

Handler

(336 posts)
9. You are correct about current laws however...
Sun Aug 14, 2022, 04:20 PM
Aug 2022

Enforcement of real red flag laws with teeth, would prohibit her from buying a gun.

ShazzieB

(16,399 posts)
15. That is not what the cops have done in this case.
Sun Aug 14, 2022, 04:54 PM
Aug 2022

Did you watch the video? According to that, she's been arrested 2 or 3 times, so the police have not been reacting as you described.

It sounds like the property management is working on litigation to get her evicted from the apartment complex where she and the man she's harassing live. Some places she would have been evicted already, but the laws are different everywhere and it can be a long, drawn out process in some localities. I hope it doesn't take too much longer.

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,479 posts)
14. I think Sgt Nathan West (Sam Jackson) said it best:
Sun Aug 14, 2022, 04:52 PM
Aug 2022

"This...suffers three...accidents a year. Unfortunate accidents that I will not hesitate to repeat if you cross me!"

Ziggysmom

(3,407 posts)
16. BS that the owner has not evicted her. A nuisance and damage like she has done vacates the lease
Sun Aug 14, 2022, 04:57 PM
Aug 2022

even in Long Beach CA. Kick her out before she harms the other tenants.

homegirl

(1,429 posts)
17. The sane
Sun Aug 14, 2022, 05:29 PM
Aug 2022

tenants have to remind the building owner about "liability" The magic word when dealing with those who have power to correct a situation and do not exercise that power.

Warpy

(111,261 posts)
19. Something is really wrong here
Sun Aug 14, 2022, 05:33 PM
Aug 2022

I believe the correct medical terminology is "crazier than a shithouse rat."

Thanks to Reagan and a misguided gaggle of civil libertarian lawyers, state mental health care was gutted and there is no longer any mechanism to pick her up and take her in for a serious evaluation. If she has any family, even they can't take her in if she doesn't want to go, even if they find a place to take her.

So they'll eventually evict her, she will be on the street, and she will be everybody's problem and there will still be no solution for her or for the people she terrifies.

If they found her bleeding in the street, they'd bring her in and treat her. Since the organ that has failed is the one between their ears, it is treated as a moral issue and she's treated as though she's capable of making a rational choice over treatment. She is not capable of that.

wnylib

(21,466 posts)
24. When mental institutions were shut down,
Sun Aug 14, 2022, 06:14 PM
Aug 2022

society did not follow up with outpatient mental health care, which could have prevented some cases from getying worse and dangerous.

In some areas, like mine, local hospitals have a psychiatric unit where people whose behavior is a threat to themselves and/or to others can be taken for observation and confinement for a limited time, usually up to a month. That is a temporary solution, though. There are still a few facilities around for long term confinement of people whose illness is socially dangerous, but confinement to them is difficult.

It's a rock and a hard place situation. In the past, it was too easy to confine people and abuse their civil rights. Now it is too difficult when it is necessary.

Warpy

(111,261 posts)
25. Danger to self or others has been too narrowly defined
Sun Aug 14, 2022, 07:17 PM
Aug 2022

and generally means somebody has to be standing there with an actual or potential weapon to be considered dangerous. Case in point, some of my own family who have had manic episodes that have ended their employment, destroyed their finances, and rendered them homeless but have not somehow constituted a danger to themselves. The laws are absolutely insane and desperately need to be modified to give families a better toolbox to help people they love.

The old state hospitals that warehoused people who could have functioned with minimal support had to go, I agree with that. We went way too far in the other direction. This whole issue needs to be revisited but I don't see the will to do so happening any time soon.

People like this woman will just be allowed to drop through the chasms (not cracks) and end up on the street, untreated, and with no way to get them evaluated and treated while they are incapable of the insight that would tell them that's exactly what they need.

Can you see this gal signing herself in to a mental hospital any time soon? HA! Me neither.

wnylib

(21,466 posts)
26. As the mental health issues of more and more people
Sun Aug 14, 2022, 07:26 PM
Aug 2022

become general social issues, maybe the will to modify the laws will develop. Meantime, families and individuals cope the best they can with very difficult situations.

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