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Nevilledog

(51,104 posts)
Sun Aug 14, 2022, 05:13 PM Aug 2022

Rude Pundit: What About Those of Us Who Want Donald Trump Prosecuted? Talk to Us, Media

https://rudepundit.blogspot.com/2022/08/what-about-those-of-use-who-want-donald.html

If there's one thing that runs through most political coverage of just about anything, it's that something is only good if Republicans believe it's good. Whenever some dullard pundit smirks pure bullshit about "bipartisanship," it inevitably means, "Here's a Democratic idea that is worthless unless Republicans buy into it." But a Republican idea never needs the approval of Democrats. I'm not talking votes alone. I'm talking how issues are covered.

During Trump's presidency, we got a nonstop stream of yokel safaris, where some reporter from, generally, the New York Times, although they were certainly not alone here, goes to a stronghold of Trump support like Sisterfuck, Ohio, and interview the Sisterfuckians about how much they love Trump and what he was doing, which was always "a lot." You had to struggle to find articles on what Democratic voters thought. And then, with the election of Joe Biden, the media still ventured out to Sisterfuck, Cousinream, and Blowagoat to get their oh-so-American opinions on how much they hate Biden and what he's doing, which is always "a lot," with an added "and the election was stolen."

This is reaching its peak with the people decrying the FBI's search of Donald Trump's garish nightmare country club and home, Mar-a-Lago. As Michelle Goldberg points out (yes, in the New York Times), there is a strain of "centrist" thought that the search was out of bounds because it will divide the nation further, that it will "deepen" the country's "civic wounds," as Damon Linker wrote. Linker goes on to say that the high probability of violence in response to a Trump prosecution means that prosecution should be avoided: "I simply don’t agree with those who insist that not going after Trump will be even more dangerous than pursuing his prosecution."

Certainly, voices on the right are screaming this, with politicians coming just up to the line of threats of violence (although certainly Republicans in Congress are threatening the FBI and the Justice Department, not to mention Merrick Garland and Christopher Wray personally, with investigation and defunding). And, yeah, the fucknut squad is doing what it's been jonesing to do, which means some of them are starting to die for the lies that Donald Trump keeps telling. But those dumb shitheads were just itching to try out their ARs and their YouTube military training on a government building. Most of them will just rant into the TikTok void for likes and subscribes, the currency of our moronic present. Of course, it takes only one getting a bomb next to or in a building or a few guns into an office to fuck things up for a whole lot of people. So I'll keep the mocking of these ignorant, delusional prickmites to a simmering minimum.

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Rude Pundit: What About Those of Us Who Want Donald Trump Prosecuted? Talk to Us, Media (Original Post) Nevilledog Aug 2022 OP
Kick dalton99a Aug 2022 #1
A tangent to that point about incarceration rates gratuitous Aug 2022 #4
I was flabbergasted to see that opinion posted here: that their sentences were too long & too harsh Hekate Aug 2022 #31
"We deserve to be heard, too." dchill Aug 2022 #9
"he would have gotten away with it, too" Jarqui Aug 2022 #10
It's like the Sunday morning 'news' shows (all of them) EYESORE 9001 Aug 2022 #2
So, what's it going to be, America? Go down fighting righteously, or give in to the bullies? Mr. Ected Aug 2022 #3
well said. Evolve Dammit Aug 2022 #12
If fascism is the end of truth, we're already living in a nascent.... jaxexpat Aug 2022 #20
👍 Joinfortmill Aug 2022 #25
Nobody is giving in to bullies. dchill Aug 2022 #32
That's because most of the filthy rich Farmer-Rick Aug 2022 #36
Just ask yourself: orthoclad Aug 2022 #5
Exactly. Corporate media isn't afraid for the country's safety, they're only concerned potential sop Aug 2022 #41
There are only a few orthoclad Aug 2022 #42
I'd love to see how many media corps orthoclad Aug 2022 #44
A brilliant fucking point that not nearly enough people are making. bullwinkle428 Aug 2022 #6
Kickety Kickin' Faux pas Aug 2022 #7
Precisely malaise Aug 2022 #8
Well said, the original post and the replies. n/t Paper Roses Aug 2022 #11
Mr. Linker would prefer we just accept corruption, a coup, espionage and a cover-up. F that. n/t Evolve Dammit Aug 2022 #13
Completely spot-on observations DeeDeeNY Aug 2022 #14
K&R We must fight and beat the traitor party into the dust. onecaliberal Aug 2022 #15
Kick. ❤ littlemissmartypants Aug 2022 #16
ya know, i dont think garland or wray is stupid enough to have not thought about this. mopinko Aug 2022 #17
I think orangecrush Aug 2022 #28
Yokel Safaris. Brilliant. Hassler Aug 2022 #18
Spot on, RP. niyad Aug 2022 #19
I mean, fuck yes! LymphocyteLover Aug 2022 #21
The billionaire owners don't care what you think; they want your money and servitude. Hermit-The-Prog Aug 2022 #22
Here's an idea, hang outside these media offices and protest loudly MagickMuffin Aug 2022 #23
I love this dude. He's so rude! Joinfortmill Aug 2022 #24
YEA ‼️ We're not hard to find. live love laugh Aug 2022 #26
Thanks RP orangecrush Aug 2022 #27
K&R for F***ing Truth nt Tommymac Aug 2022 #29
KnR Hekate Aug 2022 #30
I SO love the Rude Pundit. calimary Aug 2022 #33
Democratic voters just don't exist to the media. we jsut aren't crazy enough lol Takket Aug 2022 #34
Get things in balance! Aussie105 Aug 2022 #35
This is how I feel, 100%. It's frustrating and feeds into ecstatic Aug 2022 #37
K & R...nt Wounded Bear Aug 2022 #38
+++ llashram Aug 2022 #39
Absolutely KNR berniesandersmittens Aug 2022 #40
Sisterfuck, Cousinream, and Blowagoat: OMG, I love me some Rude! mnhtnbb Aug 2022 #43

dalton99a

(81,488 posts)
1. Kick
Sun Aug 14, 2022, 05:17 PM
Aug 2022
The point here is not just that, obviously, prosecution shouldn't be based on how much upheaval it will cause to numbskulls who have smeared a viscous coating of lies on their naked flesh and are pretending it's armor. But media coverage is focusing only on the violent fucknuts. It ignores the much, much larger portion of the population who want to see that orange motherfucker behind bars for crimes he flaunted in our flustered faces.

Yeah, what about those of us who want Donald Trump indicted and prosecuted? We deserve to be heard, too. Prosecuting Trump is not merely for some abstract concept like adherence to "the rule of law." That has meaning. We have seen powerful people get away with crimes time and again. We needed George W. Bush and his crew of war criminals prosecuted. We needed the motherfuckers who almost blew up the economy of the world in 2008 to face justice. And we got nothing. We got the false promise that forgiveness would temper their behavior, only to see that forgiveness shit on and tossed back at those who did the forgiving, using it as a ticket to go further and act with impunity to wreck shit even more.

We have to know that there is a limit. We have to know that in a nation that incarcerates more (mostly poor) people than any other, in a nation that tolerates mass murder on a daily basis, in a nation that does nothing to stop the unending harassment and threats that stream through our social media, in a nation that allows for lies to become policy, whether with climate change (until last week) or the election or abortion rights or education, in a nation as fucked as this nation is, something fucking matters, and that something has to be the very foundational idea that a president isn't above the law. The Obama administration, including Joe Biden, dropped the ball big-time with the Bush criminal enterprise. It can't happen again, so soon, because all faith in this delicate web we call "democracy" will fucking collapse. That's way more dangerous than Skeeter pretending he's Rambo and trying to take out an FBI office. We can stop the Skeeters, even if they do cause harm. We can't stop a web from collapsing once the threads are plucked free.

Jesus fuck, at least Bush and Cheney and Rumsfeld and the rest had the good sense to realize they had gotten away with it and went the fuck away. I sincerely believe that if Trump had accepted the results of the election and let everything go ahead peacefully, he would have gotten away with it, too. Instead, he's fucking daring anyone to stop his criminality. Trump is fostering this violence now. He could stop it, like he could have stopped the January 6 insurrection. But he won't. So he must be stopped by legal action.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
4. A tangent to that point about incarceration rates
Sun Aug 14, 2022, 05:39 PM
Aug 2022

It's when those low-lifes who killed Ahmad Arbery got big fat sentences for the murder, we immediately got the "Oh, we're locking up people for too long" story I knew was coming. A thin patina of "Look what the system does to poor and minority defendants" spread over sympathy for Arbery's killers and the long sentences they got.

Hekate

(90,686 posts)
31. I was flabbergasted to see that opinion posted here: that their sentences were too long & too harsh
Sun Aug 14, 2022, 09:05 PM
Aug 2022

… and that it just goes to show how bad our incarceration system is.

dchill

(38,492 posts)
9. "We deserve to be heard, too."
Sun Aug 14, 2022, 06:15 PM
Aug 2022

For how long now have the media made sure we always get less than we deserve because it's unfair that we're always the majority? BALANCE MUST BE ENFORCED! "And we'll decide what 'balance' is."

Jarqui

(10,125 posts)
10. "he would have gotten away with it, too"
Sun Aug 14, 2022, 06:17 PM
Aug 2022

I'm not so sure about that.

The GA and Jan 6th thing go away because under the above scenario he didn't do them.

Some of the documents he's keeping are probably trying to protect himself.
Everything he does is about himself.

But the stuff in NY is pretty serious (fraud, tax evasion) and clear of pardons.
He had no guarantee of beating that but if in the Oval Office, he'd have another layer of protection.

EYESORE 9001

(25,938 posts)
2. It's like the Sunday morning 'news' shows (all of them)
Sun Aug 14, 2022, 05:24 PM
Aug 2022

When Democrats are in power, the shows have predominantly repuQs on because ‘all sides must be heard from.’ When repuQs are in power, their side is over represented because they’ve ‘got a mandate.’

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
3. So, what's it going to be, America? Go down fighting righteously, or give in to the bullies?
Sun Aug 14, 2022, 05:30 PM
Aug 2022

Because those bullies will accept your meek indifference and, in turn, will shackle you, blindfold you, gag you and destroy you.

I think we all know that. This isn't just hyperbole. And it most certainly isn't political. The other side isn't the GOP.

It's fascism, ready to devour democracy whole.

jaxexpat

(6,828 posts)
20. If fascism is the end of truth, we're already living in a nascent....
Sun Aug 14, 2022, 07:51 PM
Aug 2022

totalitarian utopia. You got to know when to hold em, know when to fold em. You can't walk away and there's no where to run.

dchill

(38,492 posts)
32. Nobody is giving in to bullies.
Sun Aug 14, 2022, 09:11 PM
Aug 2022

As soon as they break the law, they're being dealt with. Pretty sure we have to wait for that.

Farmer-Rick

(10,170 posts)
36. That's because most of the filthy rich
Mon Aug 15, 2022, 09:20 AM
Aug 2022

Are GOPers and psychopaths. They are crazy. If you met them on the street you would recognize in less than a minute that they are crazy. They are crazy because of the wealth they control.....it makes you crazy.

They don't know what normal Americans think or want or feel and they don't care. They have these bubbles around themselves filled with slave like people who will do whatever they want for money. It gives them a sense that they are gods.

The filthy rich rule America and until you take their power away from them, take away the wealth you let them control, they will always be pushing the horribly incompetent and stupid as political leaders. They need someone like themselves to run America, to give them more of our national wealth.

Notice how quickly they have gone from giving us an Alzheimer patient, to an alcoholic, to a complete idiot psychopath. Every time these crazies were handed the presidency, there was a rational capable Dem running against their crazy. And the crazy won. Because money and the Supremes.

Anyway look around the world, this is the world the filthy rich created and control. It's what they want and what they got for themselves. And oh, you too get to live in their world, with all the horrors they have created.

sop

(10,177 posts)
41. Exactly. Corporate media isn't afraid for the country's safety, they're only concerned potential
Mon Aug 15, 2022, 03:56 PM
Aug 2022

civil disturbances may prevent consumers from spending their money on the crap their advertisers sell.

orthoclad

(2,910 posts)
42. There are only a few
Tue Aug 16, 2022, 08:52 AM
Aug 2022

very rich people/corporations who own the vast majority of media outlets in the US, whether broadcast or print.
Along with the sequestering of wealth by the 1%, we have the sequestration of "news".

orthoclad

(2,910 posts)
44. I'd love to see how many media corps
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 08:42 PM
Aug 2022

Own an interest in gun manufacturers.
Don't hedge funds own many outlets? They strip them of assets, leave a skeleton crew to operate the company, take the money and run. If these funds own stock in gun makers, they have a vested interest in raising the rage level.

mopinko

(70,103 posts)
17. ya know, i dont think garland or wray is stupid enough to have not thought about this.
Sun Aug 14, 2022, 07:06 PM
Aug 2022

i've got a feeling that part of the prep here is being ready to swoop down on these assholes.

MagickMuffin

(15,942 posts)
23. Here's an idea, hang outside these media offices and protest loudly
Sun Aug 14, 2022, 07:58 PM
Aug 2022


I remember this being a tactic around the time of 2000 election. There were scores of protesters outside of CNN chanting Communist News Network. They changed this over and over again and suddenly CNN moved further right.

Perhaps our chant should be Conservative News Network, over and over again. Bullhorns would be a nice addition.


Aussie105

(5,397 posts)
35. Get things in balance!
Mon Aug 15, 2022, 04:28 AM
Aug 2022

The media aren't dumb, they have observed and seen what TFG and his followers have done, and are trying to do, to the country.

They know full well the laws he has broken, the lies he has pushed, the nodding heads that agreed with him, those who saw his delusions as a possible alternate reality.

Normality is the status quo.

And that is what the TrumpHeads are complaining about, normality threatening their delusions, and the media, being the media, just report on that complaining.

But in the background, is the status quo, the majority of Americans, who know what is right, who know TFG and his followers aren't quite right in the head. Know that Biden is quietly steering the ship in the right direction.

But there is no mileage in that for the media.
Ask on camera 10 people in the street what they think of the current situation.
Intelligent and rational answers won't make it on the evening news. A MAGA frothing at the mouth at the unfairness of it all, will get airplay.

If you feel your normal doesn't get fair air play, get used to it - the media isn't interested.

Normality is the status quo.
Never forget, never waver.



ecstatic

(32,704 posts)
37. This is how I feel, 100%. It's frustrating and feeds into
Mon Aug 15, 2022, 10:39 AM
Aug 2022

the "othering" of the majority of Americans. We are Americans too, dammit. Our opinions and feelings should matter.

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