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zuul

(14,627 posts)
Mon Aug 15, 2022, 04:36 PM Aug 2022

DOJ asks FL judge to keep Mar a Lago affidavit under seal ... national security implications

Carrie Johnson (@johnson_carrie) - NPR:

Just in: The Justice Department asks a judge in Florida to keep the Mar a Lago affidavit under seal, cites need to "protect the integrity of an ongoing law enforcement investigation that implicates national security."

More from DOJ - "the redactions necessary to mitigate harms to the integrity of the investigation would be so extensive as to render the remaining unsealed text devoid of meaningful content, and the release of such a redacted version would not serve any public interest."

3:33 PM · Aug 15, 2022


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DOJ asks FL judge to keep Mar a Lago affidavit under seal ... national security implications (Original Post) zuul Aug 2022 OP
Of course it does. These people screaming for it know that Walleye Aug 2022 #1
45's gamble has paid off. He did not want that affidavit released before Nov. marble falls Aug 2022 #2
No, he lost obamanut2012 Aug 2022 #8
Of course, but he's running on the notion he can beat all of this elected as 47 ... marble falls Aug 2022 #37
Could you explain why you say this? Why November? Captain Zero Aug 2022 #9
He does not want this thing to spill into the elections. marble falls Aug 2022 #35
He doesn't want it released. ever. Gore1FL Aug 2022 #28
He absolutely wants it hidden for as long as possible. But he claims he wants it exposed. marble falls Aug 2022 #36
The judge will not unseal it - nt Ohio Joe Aug 2022 #3
Hopefully the judge rules in favor of the DoJ, it would compromise sources MarineCombatEngineer Aug 2022 #4
This doesn't shoot down my wacky theory that... LudwigPastorius Aug 2022 #14
It's as good a theory as any other. nt MarineCombatEngineer Aug 2022 #15
Oh, no. Many people are saying the best theory is DeSantis called the FBI tip line. Hermit-The-Prog Aug 2022 #32
I like it. I think it's entirely possible. lindysalsagal Aug 2022 #33
I'm convinced they have a third party transaction Voltaire2 Aug 2022 #5
Yes, that's what I believe as well. A whole paper trail, no doubt. IrishAfricanAmerican Aug 2022 #7
I have thought this all along. That's why they didn't go after the docs before now. onecaliberal Aug 2022 #11
It's to protect witnesses who have testified LeftInTX Aug 2022 #21
Considering TFG unredacted the names of the agents it should remain sealed. LiberalFighter Aug 2022 #6
They are going to release Docket 57 (whatever that is) LeftInTX Aug 2022 #10
I think it's stuff that was redacted from the warrant when the DOJ made it public blogslug Aug 2022 #20
This is the right thing to be done - it's an active investigation. Suck it up GQP. n/t iluvtennis Aug 2022 #12
The affidavit would divulge the information they had for the warrant. ashredux Aug 2022 #13
Yep and they should not get access to it until he is indicted and arrested. Bev54 Aug 2022 #17
Now that Trump knows they will not release the affidavit.... kentuck Aug 2022 #16
Bingo! SergeStorms Aug 2022 #19
He will probably stumble GreenWave Aug 2022 #22
Expected. orangecrush Aug 2022 #27
And the escalator he rode in on. nt reACTIONary Aug 2022 #30
I think they are going to unredact some of the redacted stuff in the warrant blogslug Aug 2022 #18
Looks like a case number and two agent's names LeftInTX Aug 2022 #24
I believe what the GQP are requesting is UNHEARD OF? bluestarone Aug 2022 #23
FL Judge? No telling what he'll do. live love laugh Aug 2022 #25
Holy crap orangecrush Aug 2022 #26
Releasing that affadavit would reveal the source of the info, no? Orrex Aug 2022 #29
Redactions, the capitalists' "black ink" infatuation gone amok. jaxexpat Aug 2022 #31
If it's too hot for the public, it's a violation of security laws lindysalsagal Aug 2022 #34

marble falls

(57,126 posts)
37. Of course, but he's running on the notion he can beat all of this elected as 47 ...
Mon Aug 15, 2022, 07:32 PM
Aug 2022

... this order being made public would not be a good thing before he can be elected again.

He's crazy and a dumbshit.

Gore1FL

(21,132 posts)
28. He doesn't want it released. ever.
Mon Aug 15, 2022, 06:31 PM
Aug 2022

But he will keep calling for it to be released because he knows it won't be and he'll have something to target the DOJ for for fundraising.

MarineCombatEngineer

(12,418 posts)
4. Hopefully the judge rules in favor of the DoJ, it would compromise sources
Mon Aug 15, 2022, 04:39 PM
Aug 2022

who may have tipped off the FBI.

This will piss off the MAGAt's, in and out of Congress, but fuck em, they don't have a need to know that info.

LudwigPastorius

(9,156 posts)
14. This doesn't shoot down my wacky theory that...
Mon Aug 15, 2022, 05:12 PM
Aug 2022

the CIA placed an agent in his SS protection detail because Trump is a security risk.

…and that, that is the inside tipster.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,375 posts)
32. Oh, no. Many people are saying the best theory is DeSantis called the FBI tip line.
Mon Aug 15, 2022, 07:18 PM
Aug 2022

I'm not saying that; many people are saying it. The best people are saying that.

Voltaire2

(13,080 posts)
5. I'm convinced they have a third party transaction
Mon Aug 15, 2022, 04:46 PM
Aug 2022

involving at least one of the TS/SCI docs.

They’ve known for months where these docs were. They’ve got TFG or his minions on surveillance doing an overt criminal act way beyond just having the documents.

onecaliberal

(32,873 posts)
11. I have thought this all along. That's why they didn't go after the docs before now.
Mon Aug 15, 2022, 05:01 PM
Aug 2022

They were watching and waiting for that criminal act.

LeftInTX

(25,422 posts)
10. They are going to release Docket 57 (whatever that is)
Mon Aug 15, 2022, 05:01 PM
Aug 2022

Case 9:22-mj-08332-BER Document 59 Entered on FLSD Docket 08/15/2022
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.617854/gov.uscourts.flsd.617854.59.0_7.pdf

The government does not object to unsealing other materials filed in connection with
the search warrant whose unsealing would not jeopardize the integrity of this national security
investigation, subject to minor redactions to protect government personnel, namely: cover
sheets associated with the search warrant application, Docket Entry (“D.E.”) 1; the
government’s motion to seal, D.E. 2; and the Court’s sealing order, D.E. 3. The
government’s proposed redactions to those documents have been filed under seal as D.E. 57,
and the government now asks the Court to unseal the materials contained in that filing.

blogslug

(38,004 posts)
20. I think it's stuff that was redacted from the warrant when the DOJ made it public
Mon Aug 15, 2022, 05:29 PM
Aug 2022

That redacted stuff was filed under Docket 57

I could be wrong

ashredux

(2,606 posts)
13. The affidavit would divulge the information they had for the warrant.
Mon Aug 15, 2022, 05:08 PM
Aug 2022

The affidavit would divulge the information they had for the warrant.

This would help Trump start to put together a defense. And it would Hurt the potential security issues that the government will be dealing with

Bev54

(10,058 posts)
17. Yep and they should not get access to it until he is indicted and arrested.
Mon Aug 15, 2022, 05:22 PM
Aug 2022

Then they will get a copy for their defense.

kentuck

(111,106 posts)
16. Now that Trump knows they will not release the affidavit....
Mon Aug 15, 2022, 05:17 PM
Aug 2022

...he will demand that they release it and will loudly declare that they know he is innocent and that is why they will not release it.

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
19. Bingo!
Mon Aug 15, 2022, 05:27 PM
Aug 2022

Just one more reason to rile up his flying monkeys.

"So unfair! Never in the history of the world has anyone been so persecuted! Communist Democrats are tearing the country down to get to me, because they don't want me to run in '24. So unfair!" Or something to that effect.

blogslug

(38,004 posts)
18. I think they are going to unredact some of the redacted stuff in the warrant
Mon Aug 15, 2022, 05:27 PM
Aug 2022
https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000182-a333-dc87-a5ea-e73f29010000

The government does not object to unsealing other materials filed in connection with the search warrant whose unsealing would not jeopardize the integrity of this national security investigation, subject to minor redactions to protect government personnel, namely: cover sheets associated with the search warrant application, Docket Entry (“D.E.”) 1; the government’s motion to seal, D.E. 2; and the Court’s sealing order, D.E. 3. The government’s proposed redactions to those documents have been filed under seal as D.E. 57, and the government now asks the Court to unseal the materials contained in that filing.

*snip to the conclusion*

Conclusion


This Court should deny motions by third parties to the extent they seek to unseal the search warrant affidavit. Because the parties already have briefed this matter extensively, the government submits that the Court should rule on the motions without a hearing. The
government does not object to the unsealing of Docket Entry 57.


I may be wrong but I think they're going to unredact some of the redacted stuff in the Mar A Lago warrant.

LeftInTX

(25,422 posts)
24. Looks like a case number and two agent's names
Mon Aug 15, 2022, 05:56 PM
Aug 2022

However, would they have a different case number the one that is already on the affidavit? mj-08332-BER

bluestarone

(16,988 posts)
23. I believe what the GQP are requesting is UNHEARD OF?
Mon Aug 15, 2022, 05:42 PM
Aug 2022

Maybe the judge or DOJ. should ask them to show one time any judge allowed this? These SOB's are FN crazy!

Orrex

(63,216 posts)
29. Releasing that affadavit would reveal the source of the info, no?
Mon Aug 15, 2022, 06:44 PM
Aug 2022

Pretty much guarantees that some MAGA kkkultist would kill that person, with Trump's oh-so-subtle encouragement.

lindysalsagal

(20,695 posts)
34. If it's too hot for the public, it's a violation of security laws
Mon Aug 15, 2022, 07:24 PM
Aug 2022

And exhibit #1 in his collusion charge.

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