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This sure doesn't look like any official email I've ever seen (Original Post) CatWoman Aug 2022 OP
Blowing off clear cut espionage with this weaksauce? Brainfodder Aug 2022 #1
When you get done reading it, close your eyes and spin - shouting,"Beetlejuice" three times. marble falls Aug 2022 #2
Norah O'Donnell screwed up. onenote Aug 2022 #3
The warrant said they were to take: Jarqui Aug 2022 #5
Yes, this happens in warrants alot! LeftInTX Aug 2022 #13
He gets the blue turist one back... brush Aug 2022 #9
Nope, he has his diplomatic. He's going to Scotland on Aug 21st LeftInTX Aug 2022 #15
That's how it was explained today by... brush Aug 2022 #19
Not necessarily. W_HAMILTON Aug 2022 #22
Why would he still have an active diplomatic passport? nt crickets Aug 2022 #4
Former presidents are among those eligible for diplomatic passports. n/t Ms. Toad Aug 2022 #12
Ah. Thanks for the info. I do think a diplomatic passport is wasted on him, though. nt crickets Aug 2022 #14
Agreed. Ms. Toad Aug 2022 #18
Don't you have to turn your old passport in? applegrove Aug 2022 #6
They cancel/return the old passport along with the new one nt Princess Turandot Aug 2022 #7
Diplomatic passports are given to Presidents when they assume office and are cancelled when they JoanofArgh Aug 2022 #8
Actually all former presidents have diplomatic passports LeftInTX Aug 2022 #16
They're trying to dismiss the entire document seizure with this crap Docreed2003 Aug 2022 #10
red herring jcgoldie Aug 2022 #11
Someone on MSNBC mentioned today that diplomatic passports ecstatic Aug 2022 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author LeftInTX Aug 2022 #20
All former presidents have diplomatic passports LeftInTX Aug 2022 #21

onenote

(42,704 posts)
3. Norah O'Donnell screwed up.
Mon Aug 15, 2022, 10:48 PM
Aug 2022

The DOJ has acknowledged that the passports were taken and that they are returning them.

Jarqui

(10,126 posts)
5. The warrant said they were to take:
Mon Aug 15, 2022, 10:58 PM
Aug 2022
a. Any physical documents with classification markings, along with any
containers/boxes (including any other contents) in which such documents are located
, as
well as any other containers/boxes that are collectively stored or found together with the
aforementioned documents and containers/boxes;


If the passports were with classified documents, the warrant said
"Any physical documents with classification markings, along with any
containers/boxes (including any other contents) in which such documents are located
"

The FBI agents were probably doing what the warrant told them to do.

LeftInTX

(25,364 posts)
13. Yes, this happens in warrants alot!
Tue Aug 16, 2022, 12:08 AM
Aug 2022

They can be quite a messy affair!

Anything not required by the investigation is returned. If you're squeaky wheel, you can get your belongings returned faster.

brush

(53,784 posts)
9. He gets the blue turist one back...
Mon Aug 15, 2022, 11:08 PM
Aug 2022

the black diplomatic passport and the red government official one he was supposed to turn in.

brush

(53,784 posts)
19. That's how it was explained today by...
Tue Aug 16, 2022, 03:22 AM
Aug 2022

a couple of ex-diplomats. At any rate. He would have renew whatever he didn't turn in, as your post states.

W_HAMILTON

(7,867 posts)
22. Not necessarily.
Tue Aug 16, 2022, 04:40 AM
Aug 2022

O'Donnell reported:

NEW: According to a DOJ official, the FBI is NOT in possession of former President Trump's passports. Trump had accused the FBI of stealing his three passports during the search of his Mar-a-Lago home.


If they had already been returned to Trump, her reporting is accurate.

Ms. Toad

(34,074 posts)
18. Agreed.
Tue Aug 16, 2022, 12:21 AM
Aug 2022

I couldn't tell if it was discretionary - like continuing the presidential daily briefings. But the reason is that former presidents often continue to do some international diplomacy. I can't imagine any sane future president using Trump in this role.

JoanofArgh

(14,971 posts)
8. Diplomatic passports are given to Presidents when they assume office and are cancelled when they
Mon Aug 15, 2022, 11:08 PM
Aug 2022

leave office. This was discussed on MSNBC today.

LeftInTX

(25,364 posts)
16. Actually all former presidents have diplomatic passports
Tue Aug 16, 2022, 12:13 AM
Aug 2022

Think of all the charity work they do...
Tsunami relief, earthquake relief in Haiti

Docreed2003

(16,861 posts)
10. They're trying to dismiss the entire document seizure with this crap
Mon Aug 15, 2022, 11:12 PM
Aug 2022

This is how they will try to poke holes in the governments case. What's amazing is this reads like a mob movie script and people on their side are eating it up.

ecstatic

(32,705 posts)
17. Someone on MSNBC mentioned today that diplomatic passports
Tue Aug 16, 2022, 12:20 AM
Aug 2022

are no longer valid after someone leaves office (or a post). Who knows if the email is real or not, but if true, I suppose they can return it if tfg wants to keep his INVALID little souvenir.

Response to ecstatic (Reply #17)

LeftInTX

(25,364 posts)
21. All former presidents have diplomatic passports
Tue Aug 16, 2022, 04:06 AM
Aug 2022

Maybe former diplomats don't have them, but presidents do. They must get their passport reissued as a "Former President of the United States"

I'm sure some former diplomats are also eligible. (Secretary of States, career diplomats etc)


https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trumps-passports-returned-mar-lago-search-doj-official-says-rcna43192

The FBI acknowledged it had had the passports the same day Trump said on his social media platform that FBI agents who conducted the search on Aug. 8 took them.

In a statement on Truth Social, Trump said agents "stole my three Passports (one expired), along with everything else." He did not provide further details or specify whether the travel documents were personal or government passports. (Presidents receive diplomatic passports when they take office.)

A Justice Department official said Trump's passports have been returned.


Anyway, Trump is going to Scotland next week for a gala. I don't know if that's what made him look for his passport or if the raid itself did. In all actually, he probably has a personal passport, but of course he wants to use his diplomatic passport...(It has more perks)


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