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kentuck

(111,100 posts)
Tue Aug 16, 2022, 07:32 AM Aug 2022

How long had Trump been taking documents to MAL?

Were they all moved just before Joe Biden's inauguration?

Or were some moved much earlier?

It seems like a lot of boxes of documents to get together at the last minute as you were moving out?

Who was checking out the documents and bringing them to Trump? Was he moving the documents from the Oval Office to his living quarters until he would get a good collection and then take them to MAL?

How long were the aides looking in the burn bags for the documents? They knew they were missing and they were looking for them but nobody said anything.

How was the process working?

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FarPoint

(12,409 posts)
2. I sense we won't know until much later...
Tue Aug 16, 2022, 07:39 AM
Aug 2022

He had to have assistance and there is going to be a trail to follow of the cover-up team minions at the document center. There is a rigid chair of custody system...

I sense there will be indictments of these insiders at the document center....I sense someone kept notes, a private log....One would want to report this immediately but when the higher ups are part of the gang of thugs...well...keeping a record would be the second option with job preservation.....one would only be fired, replaced and that would not render a history of activity.

stopdiggin

(11,316 posts)
5. +1. regardless of how sloppy and feckless
Tue Aug 16, 2022, 07:55 AM
Aug 2022

Trump was - there are other people with (clearly defined) responsibilities. They will have to answer for clear dereliction.

essaynnc

(801 posts)
3. I can't imagine....
Tue Aug 16, 2022, 07:42 AM
Aug 2022

that an hour would go by after someone realized that a highly classified document was "missing " from where it was supposed to be in the white house. Perhaps someone was giving the Orange buffoon enough rope to hang himself with????

Novara

(5,843 posts)
4. The FBI should also check his other properties.
Tue Aug 16, 2022, 07:45 AM
Aug 2022

Does anybody think he limited them to one place?

I still want to hear more about how got them out of the SCIF. No one seems to even be talking about co-conspirators, and he's way too dumb to figure it out himself. Some expert confirmed something I suspected: any SCIF is guarded and has several layers of security. (And no, you really can't get pizza delivered to the door of a SCIF.) So this conspiracy had to involve others. And id IS a conspiracy to steal top secret information. The co-conspirators need to be found and interviewed.

gab13by13

(21,359 posts)
7. Kentuck, Trump thought he would stay in office,
Tue Aug 16, 2022, 08:24 AM
Aug 2022

so I believe that most of the documents were stolen at the end. The office secretary who was in charge of returning classified documents from the Oval office to the National Archives had left so Mark Meadows volunteered to take her place, ahem.

Mark Meadows was involved in everything, and I would guess that Jared and that Patel guy were also involved.

Don't know if it would mean anything if the FBI found Meadows' fingerprints on a lot of documents?

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
9. Donnie had help. He wouldn't be caught dead doing the menial task of packing boxes.
Tue Aug 16, 2022, 08:28 AM
Aug 2022

I think he picked the stuff he wanted to keep because it appealed to his narcissism. Wouldn't surprise me if he had help choosing some of them depending on what specific influence peddling jared was doing in the Middle East. I think the golf tournament is a result of jared "bringing peace to the middle east". (wink,wink). Maybe a little input from Bannon and Flynn.

Beatlelvr

(619 posts)
10. Being a former Calif state employee
Tue Aug 16, 2022, 08:32 AM
Aug 2022

This whole documents thing amazes me. Every civil servant has, or should have instructions on which documents/papers to keep and for how long, which ones to shred and when to shred them. And how to store them. And pertaining to POTUS its probably written down in several places! This better be investigated thoroughly.

The Magistrate

(95,247 posts)
12. Something To Consider, Sir, Turning An Eye To Security Concerns
Tue Aug 16, 2022, 09:00 AM
Aug 2022

During the regime, how common was it for the wretch to take things along with him to his trash palace?

The place is clearly riddled with foreign intelligence people, some have even been apprehended. Official business was conducted in the dining room, with guests and staff hovering near. Just about anybody with a stack of hundreds can buy their way right up to the front table. The potential exposure is tremendous over several years.

Something pathological may enter into this as well. It's common for perverse criminals to keep trophies of their crimes, things they can take up and touch for reminder of the thrill, or to display to others in a demonstration of power. It is quite possible a good part of the motive for taking documents to Florida was provision of just such queasy kicks....


kentuck

(111,100 posts)
13. It is definitely the work of a criminal mind, Sir.
Tue Aug 16, 2022, 09:05 AM
Aug 2022

I think he probably wanted some of them to show off his skills in thievery and he wanted others to use if future opportunities arose to make money. He knew the value of the Top Secret documents. I am not altogether certain that he has not made a bundle of money already?

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