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Please Help Me Recall the Sordid Tale of How Javanka and the Bobblehead Brothers Came to Have (Original Post) The Roux Comes First Aug 2022 OP
Trump insisted on it Beatlelvr Aug 2022 #1
Yes, I Recall That, Too The Roux Comes First Aug 2022 #4
tfg shoved them down our throats. at this point i'm convinced mopinko Aug 2022 #2
Don Jr and Eric never had security clearances. brooklynite Aug 2022 #3
Trump ordered it. Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #5
Here are a couple of articles about how Trump overruled the denial of clearance. Tanuki Aug 2022 #6
Thanks for Those Helpful Links! The Roux Comes First Aug 2022 #7

The Roux Comes First

(1,299 posts)
4. Yes, I Recall That, Too
Tue Aug 16, 2022, 09:41 AM
Aug 2022

But what I am trying to better understand is to what extent and how the vetting process for their clearances was compromised. There has to be plenty of rigorous investigation spelled out under the law to acquire a high-level clearance. When I was working in consulting and needed a clearance I remember learning that long-time neighbors had been interviewed about my character, as just one example.

For that matter, how were the authorities able to gag down all the historical sleaze and lawbreaking by the yam himself? On some level he should never have qualified for more than a low-level clearance, with First Grade reader versions of briefings being the closest he ever got to government secrets. Of course eventually they realized that was all he could handle in the way of briefings anyway, but he should never have been anywhere near sensitive information with his lack of impulse control and criminal history.

mopinko

(70,112 posts)
2. tfg shoved them down our throats. at this point i'm convinced
Tue Aug 16, 2022, 09:34 AM
Aug 2022

that stealing state secrets is WHY putler installed him.
and i think it was jared's actual job in the wh. i'm guessing that someone was both bribed and threatened to get him that clearance.

Irish_Dem

(47,114 posts)
5. Trump ordered it.
Tue Aug 16, 2022, 10:13 AM
Aug 2022

Jared for example was not cleared for top secret security access, but Trump overruled the investigators and ordered it any way.

Tanuki

(14,918 posts)
6. Here are a couple of articles about how Trump overruled the denial of clearance.
Tue Aug 16, 2022, 10:58 AM
Aug 2022

Apparently there were at least 30 other instances of Trump granting clearance to individuals whose backgrounds raised red flags.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2019/02/28/us/politics/jared-kushner-security-clearance.amp.html

"President Trump ordered his chief of staff to grant his son-in-law and senior adviser, Jared Kushner, a top-secret security clearance last year, overruling concerns flagged by intelligence officials and the White House’s top lawyer, four people briefed on the matter said.

Mr. Trump’s decision in May so troubled senior administration officials that at least one, the White House chief of staff at the time, John F. Kelly, wrote a contemporaneous internal memo about how he had been “ordered” to give Mr. Kushner the top-secret clearance.

The White House counsel at the time, Donald F. McGahn II, also wrote an internal memo outlining the concerns that had been raised about Mr. Kushner — including by the C.I.A. — and how Mr. McGahn had recommended that he not be given a top-secret clearance."...)more)



https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna962221

"Jared Kushner's application for a top-secret clearance was rejected by two career White House security specialists after an FBI background check raised concerns about potential foreign influence on him — but their supervisor overruled the recommendation and approved the clearance, two sources familiar with the matter told NBC News.

The official, Carl Kline, is a former Pentagon employee who was installed as director of the personnel security office in the Executive Office of the President in May 2017. Kushner's was one of at least 30 cases in which Kline overruled career security experts and approved a top-secret clearance for incoming Trump officials despite unfavorable information, the two sources said. They said the number of rejections that were overruled was unprecedented — it had happened only once in the three years preceding Kline's arrival."...(more)

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