Republicans are finally having a come-to-Jesus moment...

[kentuck]

Every other time that Trump committed a crime, they were able to lie or excuse their way out of it.

But this time is different. They don't know what the DOJ is holding?

They would like to think their guy would never do such a thing but they know better.

This time it will not be possible to cover up for the criminal acts. He may have stolen top secret documents? He may be guilty of espionage? They know he is capable of such acts. It would be suicide to tie your wagon to that star.

So they are in a different position than when they were defending him in the impeachments and even after he attacked our Capitol with his mob. This time, the evidence may be too strong and too damning to defend?

So, Republicans have a tough decision to make. Do they support the traitor and cross their fingers and hope nothing comes out before the election? Or do they split from him now and escape the disgrace of defending someone who betrayed our country?

If they had only done the right thing when they had the chance, they would have saved themselves and our country a lot of grief.

[Tickle]

1. Nah even with all the proof we've seen so far

They've already started talking about evidence being planted. He'll go down, in their eyes, as a political assassination of their fuhrer.
Here's a scary thought, they may even try to get a trump holiday out of this LOL

[Beartracks]

3. They've never met a fact they won't deny.

[Tickle]

8. lol Good one! and so correct lol NT

[czarjak]

44. "NOTHING, you say will change my mind". Literally, facts and truth be damned, I've been told.

[NoMoreRepugs]

2. Solid synopsis of the current rather delicious predicament RePutinicans find themselves in.

[PatSeg]

30. And anyone with half a brain could see it coming

For that matter, I think most of them knew it was inevitable but they were too far in to turn back. So we are watching them grasping at straws in a last ditch effort to salvage something out of this nightmare. On some level, they know it is hopeless, but they just can't shut up and back off. They'll become casualties to a hopeless cause.

History will not remember them well.

[NJCher]

45. This is it, right here

Because they’ve got nothing. There is no Plan B for them.

Last night on one of the political shows, Liz Cheney was credibly discussed as a presidential candidate. This is within the context of her losing her state election primary, which is today.

Why was she considered a viable presidential candidate?

Because the media, too, knows they have no Plan B. At some point this is all going to fall apart and then it will be catch as catch can.

[PatSeg]

48. Yes, that's a good point

This right-wing madness has lasted longer than most expected, but even so, it cannot last forever. Then the few sane voices on the right can step in and fill the void.

Yes, Liz Cheney would be a viable and formidable presidential candidate. I think she could attract a lot of moderate and independent voters. That would be disappointing if the the first woman president ended up being a republican rather than a Democrat. I just wonder how long it would take for the republican party to reinvent itself, if at all. So much damage has been done.

[sarge43]

4. They're holding a wolf by its ears.

If they let go, tfg's cultists will turn on them, maybe even violently.

If they hold on, they'll have their faces chewed off.

[kentuck]

7. It's like the old story from the mountains...

..when the two hillbillies chased a wildcat into a hollow log and one of them reached in to grab the cat, the other asked, "Do you want me to help you hold him?"

"No!", screamed the other. "I want you to help me turn him loose!"

[Master Jah-Remi]

13. A fitting analogy.

Which do you suppose would be more satisfying?

For me I think the most satisfying of those two options would be for the mainstream Republicans (McConnell ect.)to break from maga and watch the maga cultist wing burn the entire Conservative structure down to embers in a likely violent tantrum. It will split the entirety of the American right permanently. Trumpets will NEVER forgive them.

Unfortunately, McConnell knows that is exactly what will happen. So he will do the opposite. They will hold on to the wolf. They have to. And, yes, it will chew their face off.

Because, as crazy as it sounds, their best bet is to ride the train all the way off the cliff with Trump. In the end, the American electorate may punish them dearly, maybe even for a generation, but they at least get to keep the Trumper base. They can still claim "Look Trumpers, we tried to protect him from the Commies, but they were just too powerful." And their party built on white grievance, will have a whole new concrete foundation: What the deep state did to Trump.

[kentuck]

14. Makes sense.

[ShazzieB]

67. This sounds depressingly believable.

[calimary]

70. Welcome to DU, Master Jah-Remi!

Another version of "Divide and Conquer."

I'd LOVE to see the GOP split in two. Their numbers are already sliding. Splitting one faction off would guarantee Democrats more wins - at least for one or two election cycles (if not more)! Moderates and extremists on that side of the aisle seem to have a hard time agreeing on things. And the longer that condition continues, the better for all the rest of us!

[ZZenith]

80. Welcome to our little corner of the internet, Master Jan-Remi!

Though you bring few good tidings you are most welcome here.

[uponit7771]

27. +1, just like German industrialist did with Hitler

[Joinfortmill]

66. Yup. Vote.

[gab13by13]

5. I don't think it's a come to Jesus moment yet,

As far as the Magat cult, I live among them, when asked about the document scandal, they now pause. Hey, it's a start.

[RobinA]

46. I Don't Think So

either. There's no word on what was actually found that isn't speculation or third hand. I doubt we'll ever know what he had because...it's classified. I'm sure his followers think every President takes classified stuff.

[inthewind21]

51. Well

According to the loons it was all declassified so we should all file FOIA and have a look.

[Johnny2X2X]

6. Inch by inch

Trump has them cross their red lines inch by inch. It never ends, they’re so far over their previous lines they lost their way entirely.

They’re defending this. And then when their defense is rendered moot, they’ll defend the next line Trump moves them to too. They’ll be parroting whatever ridiculous defense Trump comes up with.

[Emile]

9. In their minds if Trump committed crimes it was gods will.

There is no reasoning with these right-wing bible thumpers.

[rubbersole]

10. They're waiting for faux to tell them what to think.

One would hope that faux has a red line...but I wouldn't bet on it.

[kentuck]

12. But isn't FOX in the same box as them?

Laura Ingraham is talking about "turning the page". They are stuck in the same place as Republicans looking to be re-elected.

[rubbersole]

17. They're all in the same box.

It's fun watching them squirm. The worst is yet to come. All the trumpie primary candidates that won now have 80+ days to try and defend blatant treason that even the stupidest rube can understand.
I've got a page you can turn, Laura.

[Pepsidog]

11. The only way magat politicians and supporters abandon him is if the entire rw media machine has a

come to Jesus moment and turns on the Traitor. As long as rw media has his back, no crime, no matter how depraved, will turn magat world against him. Trumpers’ minds have been permanently rewired and they will never see reason. We can only hope that those independents and apathetic uncommitted voters realize what is happening to our country and get involved and let their voices be heard at the ballot box.

[Justice matters.]

42. Well, "many" of them in Kansas turned out to reject their "taliban" criminalization of abortion

But they don't realize that if they forget their vote and elect the christaliban cons anyway, that rejection will be forgotten and they will get just what they voted against.

Stupid gets what stupid does.

[Pepsidog]

64. So true.

[calimary]

71. And one good, gratifying vote is nowhere near enough.

We need a BUNCH of pleasant surprises like Kansas turned out to be.

Remember: we're dealing with a load of folks in serious denial. They desperately want to believe, especially if it's the donald. He tells them (and sells them on) what they desperately wish was true - a back-to-the-50s world-view where men were men and women did the cooking and the laundry.

And that other annoying universal truth rears its ugly head again: NOBODY wants to admit they were wrong - much less that they've been rather royally HAD. Some of them will cling to their wrong-headed "beliefs" til they breath their last, rather than have to face that they've been played like a pinball machine in a teenage hang-out.

We're dealing with a world view that is totally upside-down/inside-out/and sideways. And WE have to think and strategize AROUND that.

[Hugin]

15. I can't see how the evidence of espionage is stronger than a real-time televised attack on the US...

Capitol.

Which didn’t put a ding into the raging dumpster fire which is the Republican Party.

But, whatever it takes.



Please, talk me down.

[wnylib]

22. But now it is both things together,

at the same time, attack on the Capitol AND espionage. Plus vote rigging. A trifecta.

[dixiechiken1]

16. History will not be kind to them.

[Lonestarblue]

18. The only come to Jesus moment Republicans will have is when (or if) they lose a majority of

local and state races in spite of all their gerrymandering. That moment requires right-wing voters to wake up to the fact that their past beliefs are mostly lies and that their leaders have lied to an manipulated them solely for votes. I don’t think we’re anywhere near that point, but I hope I’m completely wrong for the sake of this country’s future.

[FoxNewsSucks]

28. I don't know, most of them are willing lemmings no matter what.

And if that happens, it's probably a one or two election cycle thing, so Democrats will need to pass voting protection laws as the first and most important item on the agenda. The loud stupid minority has ruled this country for too long, and if we don't get that passed, they'll have permanent rule soon enough.

[The Wizard]

34. How do you convince

thought disordered MAGAts with loose associations and cognitive dissonance they are covered by Obamacare?

[Cosmocat]

56. Correct

They only way they course correct is a MAJOR ass kicking at the ballot box and way more than just once ...

[Mozeltov Cocktail]

19. Remember...

After Watergate, after pardoning Nixon...we only had 4 years of Jimmy Carter before Reagan returned republicans to power.
Reagan was probably installed by some sketchy shit with the Iranian hostage situation.
Republicans will never stop, they don't have "come to Jesus" moments, they have an agenda.
Trump's downfall will be a set back but as always, they will double down and cry about god, guns and Gays. Republicans have no honor nor decency and they see their Jesus as one of them.

[Ferrets are Cool]

21. Not probably...and welcome to DU

[CCExile]

23. Truth. Ugly truth, but truth. These people have been among us since we descended from the trees.

[RobinA]

47. Yeah, This

I remember Watergate. The prediction was that no Republican would win the presidency in the next lifetime. Sixish short years later that was out the window.

[NJCher]

50. Maybe it's just me

But I take it for granted they will be back to God, guns, and gays. The “come to Jesus moment” refers to the method they use to get into office. At this time, it appears trump will not be a viable option and they have no Plan B unless you call desatan a Plan B.

[inthewind21]

52. No probably

about it.

[Ferrets are Cool]

20. All that is true unless you reside in the "bat-shit crazy" vein of the repug party.

That delegation will NEVER leave him.

[musclecar6]

24. Yeah

When you back down from a bully you’re fucked. What our Congress should have done, is marched into his office as soon as he got elected, with a bipartisan group of leaders and said look asshole we run things around here not you. If you operate like all the past presidents in a civilized responsible way fully understanding you’re going to do what you can for your party that’s fine. But if you get any bright ideas that you’re going to make yourself a modern day totalitarian megalomaniac dictator we’re gonna be back and impeach you and convict you and throw your ass out in no uncertain terms.

Since our spineless Congress didn’t do the sensible thing, he did what he always does. He started with his bull in the China shop loose cannon stampede with an I’m gonna do whatever the fuck I want attitude and we were off and running. And our fearful lack of courage Congress couldn’t back up fast enough to allow him to do whatever the fuck he wants. Yes the Democrats fought him every step of the way, but without the help of the Republicans he managed to stay in office all the way through even after he mounted an insurrection on January 6. How fucking disgraceful is that then our Congress completely let us down when we were attacked by an outrageous amoral despicable person, from within.

The worst part is, this incompetent smug menace, is still being defended by our cowardly Republican leadership. THEY are the ones who should be held accountable at the ballot box coming up at the mid terms and any other future elections. They need to nominate and attempt to elect ( and we of course try to defeat) the Liz Cheney’s of their party. We need people in the Republican Party that even though we disagree with them on many if not most issues, that will have the integrity, decency and stability to operate in a safe sane way steering our country through all the obstacles that come up, if they win an election and we don’t.

[JohnnyRingo]

25. I think he may just start the MAGA Party.

I'm pretty sure that's what the GOP is worried about as it would split the vote for the sole purpose of making an attention whore feel loved.
Those who follow him will never leave his side, regardless the charges that stand.

[sop]

31. If abandoned by the GOP establishment, Trump will do everything he can to destroy the party.

Trump always backs out of every room with guns blazing, gunning down as many people as possible.

[RobinA]

49. If Abandoned

by the GOP establishment, he is finished. The only power he has is what Repubs give him. Oh, there will be much howling for a minute, but then some other freedum-loving fool will be along and talk about socialists taking away their guns and handing out money to poor people, and Trump will be a bloated memory.

[inthewind21]

53. The lesson

I fear won't be learned, by the public as a whole is, yes Trump is a bumbling egomaniac and a constant wave of disaster. What happens when they find someone who knows how government works, isn't a total media drama whore, has half a brain AND is an evil dictator wannabe?

[LakeArenal]

40. Yang May just get a contact from dump.

[raccoon]

26. You mean they're finally pulling their heads out of their asses? Nt

[Ponietz]

29. Let's clear the air in our country

Vladimir Putin controls Magastan. A 1000-page Indictment fleshing out Mueller’s findings with additional facts may be necessary. Who knows, perhaps more from 2016 in Russia have turned by now? I can hope.

I can also hope his passports are seized, but since that’s a Department of State matter, the passports aren’t in the FBI’s possession. State doesn’t need a warrant to seize a passport. And the IRS can put a hold on it, too—much less due process in the executive branch, and we all have experience with that, for instance, long lines at the DMV.

The best had 5 years to work on this.

[Heather MC]

32. I respectfully disagree with one point you made

They have always known what type of man Donald Trump is, they don't like to think hes better than that. They enjoy lying to us about the fact that hes "better than that"

And they just don't know how to lie about this🤷🏾‍♀️

Way too many people in this country have had to hold a clearance of some type.
And we all know the government doesn't play when you mess around with classified documents.

I used to hold a top secret SCI clearance. And 1 time 1 of the guys in the shop that I worked in, comma accidentally faxed out a document without properly classifying it. It was one word in the document that made the whole thing top secret.

And he was faxing the document to another top secret government installation however because he didn't put the proper wording at the top and bottom of the document he caught hell for that he almost lost his job.

And that was one document.

Not boxes of classified documents

And frankly for inciting people to go out and attack the FBI Donald Trump should be sitting under the jail right now and labeled Charles Manson 2022.

[inthewind21]

55. Average

Joe employee vs. the POTUS are two vastly different things. The one who faxed ""caught hell" and ALMOST lost his job. Need I say more?

[PatrickforB]

33. Not in Wyoming...looks like Cheney is being primaried but a Trump-crazy n/t

[getagrip_already]

35. They have done this before... their strategy will be

Their strategy will be to deflect, delay, and wait. The public will move on to some new rage theory given enough time.

They likely believe the doj won't take the next step and indict trump, though they may indict someone else. There is plenty of history of the doj not indicating trump. It took weeks for garland just to decide on the warrant.

Their short term strategy will be to keep garland intimidated. Their long term strategy will be fake news, just like that Russia thing. Time without any indictments is on their side..

Garland needs to indict tfg on multiple fronts, including Rico statutes. And he needs to do it soon, not after the mid terms.

I'm not convinced he will, but I am hopeful.

[calimary]

36. If there's anything I've learned in life, it's the power of denial.

And the APPEAL of denial. It lets you off the hook of ANY personal responsibility. It lets you live in your own personal la-la-land and blithely ignore any part of reality that you don’t like.

Denial will be hard to get over, and get beyond. Few are willing to acknowledge or do the personal inner work that’s required. And the easy way is to just deny there’s even a problem.

That’s one of the first remarkable steps in the 12-step program, if I remember correctly.

FIRST YOU HAVE TO ADMIT YOU HAVE A PROBLEM.

In college I met and became friends with some guys in AA. It was a revelation!

I saw that principle start to lift people out of some miserable and even potentially deadly circumstances, take back control of their lives, pull themselves out of deep personal/mental/spiritual holes, and become whole again. I gained a huge respect for the AA program and principles. I saw it work! I watched it work!

But you kinda have to surrender to it. That’s a key step, all by itself. And it’s a big one - that asks a lot of the individual. It involves humility and acceptance, but it HELPS! And I’ve seen it work.

[Ladythatvotesblue]

37. When Trump talks

When Trump talks His minions listen

[SleeplessinSoCal]

38. Bizarrely and ominously,

...his only recourse is to run again. Even if the Constitution says he can't, his minions will defend him to and beyond the grave.

He may well be the virus that destroys America the Beautiful.

[relayerbob]

39. A few are

Most aren't

[C_eh_N_eh_D_eh]

41. The only way their position is different now...

is they no longer have the numbers in the Senate to drop the charges outright.

[OMGWTF]

43. Cults are hard to get out of.

Even if my MAGAt former friends and family came to me on their knees asking forgiveness I’d slam the door in their face. Fk ‘em! I prefer my friends who aren’t fascist fidiot h8fl fools.

[CaptainTruth]

54. Non-MAGA-cult Republicans, but not the MAGA cult.

The cult folks who call themselves "Ultra MAGA" on social media see this as just more persecution of Trump by a corrupt government agency, & therefore one more reason to defend him more strongly.

However, they're not the ones who decide elections, & we could never get their votes, they're a lost cause. This could sway some "sane" Republicans, if there are any left, & I hope it does. We shall see.

In terms of elections, to me what's most important is the effect it will have on independent voters. Folks tend to forget that today in America there are more voters registered "independent" than Democractic or Republican, & ultimately it's that voting block, the folks who can be persuaded to vote for either party, that determines election outcomes.

[Hamlette]

57. they are waiting to see what their base does. Just like on Jan 6.

several of them came out against Trump in the hours and days after Jan 6 because it was so horrible. But their base loved it and still loved Trump so they had to switch back to loving Trump and pretending the coup was no big deal.

It is interesting and scary to see how a mob can influence/control our elected leaders and thus our country.

[jalan48]

58. How Liz Cheney does today in her primary should give us an idea of where they are at.

[get the red out]

59. They don't care what he's done

Just that he's gotten caught.

[ZonkerHarris]

60. They will keep digging the hole because they are in it with him.

[kentuck]

61. It's not the DOJ's job to care about how they feel...

...or whether they care or not. Their job is to follow the law. Let them do what they will. So long as they do not break the law.

[Autumn]

62. No they aren't. They wouldn't know their Jesus if he flew up and slapped them in the face.

[Grins]

63. You will know tonight if Cheney is defeated. NM

[Joinfortmill]

65. Yup. Fuck 'em all. Way too late.

[Emile]

68. The majority of these conservatives will jump

off the cliff following their leader.

[luvallpeeps]

69. WWG1WGA

Suits me!

[cstanleytech]

72. "the evidence may be too strong and too damning to defend" Except these are Republicans and

they would willingly throw themselves under the bus to protect the anti-Christ if he declared himself to be a Republican.

[LiberalArkie]

73. The Republicans will excuse Trump because it is forgivable, he was only trying to make more money.

[DBoon]

74. Many Germans committed suicide after WWII was lost

They could not face that they had believed in a cruel lie

[keithbvadu2]

75. The republican 'come-to-Jesus moment' is to convert Jesus to their newer version of Christianity.

The republican 'come-to-Jesus moment' is to convert Jesus to their newer version of Christianity.

[Stuart G]

76. The "Come to Jesus" moment may come the day after November's election.

If they lose so bad, that it is obvious why, (because of Trump)..we will see a "Come to Jesus Moment"...

Perhaps the party will criticize Trump in a way it has never done before. After all, he caused their incredible loss.
This way the Pukes have a scapegoat, and can start what they see ...."As Reasonably Safe".............
..........................whatever that means?...

_____________________________________________________________________________________________

These ass**les will do anything and everything to save themselves...even push Trump under the bus, if they
lose the election very bad.

Now you may not agree, but that is they way they are....All OF THEM

[NullTuples]

77. I worry they could pivot tomorrow to DeSantis and not look back

And their base would go right along with them.

It's the promise of being allowed to be racist / sexist / ableist / Christian nationalist / etc., without consequence, on that appeals to them.

Republicans could cut Trump lose - and I believe they will - on the day they truly see him as a threat and very little else will change.

That's part of why it's so important to not stop at Trump. The entire party supported him and still do. If they are not investigated & prosecuted, it says that sure the President is eventually accountable if he passes a bar so high it's no longer visible to most people, but everything less than that is still okay.

[dchill]

78. They're not coming anywhere NEAR Jesus.

Not by a LONG SHOT.

[Oneironaut]

79. They're behind Trump 100%, no matter what.

They’ll literally burn the FBI to the ground before they double cross their Fuhrer.

[LiberalFighter]

81. Which Jesus? The Republicans groomed the idiots to be their supporters.