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Redleg

(5,814 posts)
Tue Aug 16, 2022, 08:45 AM Aug 2022

Why is the ex-President being given so much deference?

I don't get it. Is he a king immune from scrutiny or a regular American citizen? It's bad enough that DOJ policy generally prohibits criminal charges against a sitting President, but Trump is out of office and these boxes of classified documents were moved to Mar-a-Lardo when he moved out of the oval office. I am tired of hearing the media, politicians, and legal commentators about how "unprecedented" was the search and seizure of these documents. The mis-use of "unprecedented" implies that the DOB and FBI are acting in an unusual manner and it plays in to what the GOP is doing to sow doubt about the DOJ's intentions.

I get why the GOP is lined up with Trump. I get that they still see him as the great leader. What I don't get is all the hand-wringing by non-Trumpers about how this investigation should be more transparent or how it will enrage the MAGATS and increase the strife in our country. The only questions that matters is this: is Trump, as a citizen, subject to the same laws as the rest of us?

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Why is the ex-President being given so much deference? (Original Post) Redleg Aug 2022 OP
The disgusting thing is that he is given more Bettie Aug 2022 #1
THIS !!!! ☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾 uponit7771 Aug 2022 #14
YEP !!!! ☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾 lostnfound Aug 2022 #19
Biden gives deference to Bush and Obama Kaleva Aug 2022 #2
The media is at fault primarily.... FarPoint Aug 2022 #3
+++ JohnSJ Aug 2022 #5
The MSM is complicit, not just about making money. gab13by13 Aug 2022 #6
Simply out of the respect automatically given to the OFFICE of the Presidency. n/t werdna Aug 2022 #4
Donald Trump didn't give a rat's ass about respecting the office of the presidency. gab13by13 Aug 2022 #7
Whoever said - werdna Aug 2022 #17
No, the Media treats Clinton worse over the Lewinsky affair JI7 Aug 2022 #10
+1, was Clinton's "lie" a slam dunk prosecution like too many are requiring out of TFG crimes? tia uponit7771 Aug 2022 #13
Good question. kentuck Aug 2022 #8
The Media likes him . They find discussions of policy boring JI7 Aug 2022 #9
Kings don't get their castles searched. Fiendish Thingy Aug 2022 #11
K&R, but Hunter Biden is being investigated by DOJ with ***NO*** probable cause to do so !!! uponit7771 Aug 2022 #12
In general, ex-presidents are treated with respect and deference Ocelot II Aug 2022 #15
It's a massive distraction from the Dems doing well IMO..........nt Jade Fox Aug 2022 #16
The orange degenerate should be in prison. Above the law. Fines and bankruptcies only. sarcasmo Aug 2022 #18

Bettie

(16,110 posts)
1. The disgusting thing is that he is given more
Tue Aug 16, 2022, 08:59 AM
Aug 2022

deference than the current president, who is a decent human being who understands how government works in addition to being the president.

Kaleva

(36,307 posts)
2. Biden gives deference to Bush and Obama
Tue Aug 16, 2022, 09:01 AM
Aug 2022

He personally informs them of major decisions before us commoners are informed.

FarPoint

(12,401 posts)
3. The media is at fault primarily....
Tue Aug 16, 2022, 09:04 AM
Aug 2022

In my opinion.... They love a competition, the division for media " breaking news"....they create a delusion that tRump is an equal as it benefits their business...

gab13by13

(21,349 posts)
6. The MSM is complicit, not just about making money.
Tue Aug 16, 2022, 09:15 AM
Aug 2022

The MSM is owned and managed by domestic oligarchs. MSNBC is supposed to be so liberal, its 2 major shareholders are Vanguard and BlackRock. MSNBC has fired so many anchors over the years, not because of lack of viewership, (see Keith Olbermann and Dylan Ratigan) but because they went outside the right wing narrative. I am down to watching Nicolle Wallace and Chris Hayes, the rest are teleprompter readers, some are well intentioned but have no clue how to ask follow up questions.

It is only going to get worse because we are in Kornacki time. If DOJ is going silent because of the elections the classified document scandal will just fade away into the sunset.

gab13by13

(21,349 posts)
7. Donald Trump didn't give a rat's ass about respecting the office of the presidency.
Tue Aug 16, 2022, 09:18 AM
Aug 2022

Donald Trump disrespects the office when he displays the Presidential Seal, as if he were still president.

Donald Trump will go down in history as the first president to openly disrespect the office of the president.

werdna

(470 posts)
17. Whoever said -
Tue Aug 16, 2022, 01:56 PM
Aug 2022

- he did? The question posed was, " Why is the ex-President being given so much deference?", not "Did the ex-president give a rat's ass . . . ?" I answered the former not the latter.

uponit7771

(90,344 posts)
13. +1, was Clinton's "lie" a slam dunk prosecution like too many are requiring out of TFG crimes? tia
Tue Aug 16, 2022, 09:49 AM
Aug 2022

kentuck

(111,098 posts)
8. Good question.
Tue Aug 16, 2022, 09:20 AM
Aug 2022

The Republicans are very adept at framing stuff. That is what they are attempting to do with this very serious situation.

JI7

(89,250 posts)
9. The Media likes him . They find discussions of policy boring
Tue Aug 16, 2022, 09:31 AM
Aug 2022

They don't want to bring on economists , historians , other academics to discuss policy and governing .

They would rather report about Trump's infrastructure week than discuss an actual bill with infrastructure funding and what it would do .

The msm is similar to Trump supporters in that way .

Fiendish Thingy

(15,619 posts)
11. Kings don't get their castles searched.
Tue Aug 16, 2022, 09:45 AM
Aug 2022

What is this “deference” you speak of?

I’m not worried about the DOJ, but then, I’ve been paying attention.

Ocelot II

(115,706 posts)
15. In general, ex-presidents are treated with respect and deference
Tue Aug 16, 2022, 10:00 AM
Aug 2022

in recognition of their former office and their service when they occupied it. Normal presidents pretty much remove themselves from the limelight and get involved in charitable work or educational projects. Jimmy Carter is a great example of what a post-presidency can be, and he is deservedly respected for his work with Habitat for Humanity. Even W has had the sense to lay low and paint, considering that his presidency was, shall we say, less than stellar. Ex-presidents usually recognize that they are just private citizens but with some extra “pull” that they put to good use. TFG, of course, isn’t like the others and refuses to see that he isn’t entitled to special treatment beyond that which the law affords all former presidents.

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