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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSo how appeasement will the DOJ and FBI give to Trump.
The passport thing.
Stand up to Trump.
Once you start giving in when does it stop.
Slippery slope.
What does Trump have to do really.
He has to be stopped at some point...
Garland stand your ground...
Trump only understands strength.
Walleye
(31,028 posts)These feds in law enforcement can be kind of crafty
brooklynite
(94,585 posts)DOJ has no right at present to restrict his travel.
Walleye
(31,028 posts)brooklynite
(94,585 posts)Walleye
(31,028 posts)But if he was legally entitled to have it back, I have no problem with it
BannonsLiver
(16,387 posts)Typically they use a hole puncher as well as another means of making sure people know its no longer active. Notice I got through that without a humble brag about how many passports I have, unlike the other responder.
ProfessorGAC
(65,058 posts)There's a couple holes punched all the way through them. I don't recall any other marking, though they may be there.
My current one is near expiring. Have to get a new one, I guess.
I think I got my first one in 1983, but not sure.
brooklynite
(94,585 posts)LeftInTX
(25,364 posts)It says "Former President of the United States" on it.
Walleye
(31,028 posts)rsdsharp
(9,182 posts)Unless the passports are covered under the scope of the warrant, DOJ has no right to them.
Texaswitchy
(2,962 posts)The passports were a test.
There will be more demands.
Trump is a flight risk
Not that he couldn't just disappear one day on a boat or private plane.
Saboburns
(2,807 posts)It was illegal to take his passport at this time. As in not allowed by law. An oversite by the FBI. Which is why the FBI informed him of the mistake and brought it back BEFORE HE EVEN KNEW IT WAS TAKEN.
That's right, his passport was returned to him before he asked for it.
After which he tried to score points with his base by lying about how it all went down.
Naturally.
brooklynite
(94,585 posts)People seem to search for new ways to be anticipatorally critical of Garland's performance.
Texaswitchy
(2,962 posts)The message he sent to Garland about taking off the heat ..
I have been busy with my new granddaughter but I have been keeping up with the news.
Threatening the FBI agents family....
The Judge has death threats..
brooklynite
(94,585 posts)The Judge is holding a hearing on the affidavit.
The DOJ is continuing its investigations and prosecutions.
Texaswitchy
(2,962 posts)It is early days yet..
Anyone but Trump would be locked up in a deep dark hole
The secret documents he had.
A padlock on a closet door to protect the documents.
I hope it was a set up with the camera watching....
Texaswitchy
(2,962 posts)She works for the Federal government...
She has a really high security clearance.
I know what it took for her to get it...
For Trump to walking around free is not right.
If he gets any punishment it will be home confinement.
MarineCombatEngineer
(12,385 posts)You know this for a fact? Because you're stating it as a fact.
Do you have a shred of evidence that this is true?
No, you don't, but I can see that you're another one of the doom and gloom crowd, nothing the AG or the FBI does good enough.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)and their "right" is failure. Determining on failure is always a losing position; doesn't matter if it's being done as an emotional shield to lessen the pain, failure's still failure.
But for the life of me I don't see how anyone could imagine at this point that it's not TRUMP and company whose best chances are through appeasing the DoJ and other governments coming after them. At least dozens in the tRump camp have already made some kind of deals ( "please don't hurt me" ) and are spilling some or all of their guts. Appeasement.
MarineCombatEngineer
(12,385 posts)MarineCombatEngineer
(12,385 posts)An "army" that's proven, so far, to be just as inept as he is, so far, they're 0-3.
The Judge has death threats..
Maybe you haven't heard, but the FBI are going after these MAGAt's.
https://www.abc27.com/news/top-stories/pa-man-arrested-for-making-violent-threats-towards-fbi/
It's been all over the news, and there are several threads right here on DU about this.
Texaswitchy
(2,962 posts)Look at what almost happened to the Governor of Michigan.
Some of his army know what they are doing.
MarineCombatEngineer
(12,385 posts)returned to him, that's not appeasement, that's the law, which AG Garland is strictly following.
I don't know where you come up with appeasement because he was following the law, but you are clearly wrong.
MarineCombatEngineer
(12,385 posts)AG Garland is standing up for the RULE OF LAW, but thanks for your concern.
Texaswitchy
(2,962 posts)Trump stoled top secret information.
Some of it maybe sold already.
Found at his home.
You or me where would we be now.
There is law for the rich and law for the rest of us .
And they let him keep documents in a closet..
And finally had to go take it...
MarineCombatEngineer
(12,385 posts)which, last time I looked, hasn't happened yet but the wheels of justice are turning and turning faster.
BannonsLiver
(16,387 posts)MarineCombatEngineer
(12,385 posts)AG Garland not moving fast enough, Benedict Donald is not going to be indicted, blah blah blah.
You know, the usual from some.
Texaswitchy
(2,962 posts)I guarantee you Trump will flee the country or go on house confinement.
He will never get the punishment he deserves.
My daughter was warned about what would to her if she walked off with secret documents.
What makes Trump so special...
Garland will not lock Trump up.
MarineCombatEngineer
(12,385 posts)you're making assumptions without any basis of fact.
Texaswitchy
(2,962 posts)Garland will never put Trump in jail..
A lot of people will maybe go to jail but not Trump.
Garland and Trump's lawyers will reach an agreement.
A settlement.
Home confinement.
Do not get your hopes up.
That is if Trump does not flee the country.