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Texaswitchy

(2,962 posts)
Tue Aug 16, 2022, 01:45 PM Aug 2022

So how appeasement will the DOJ and FBI give to Trump.

The passport thing.

Stand up to Trump.

Once you start giving in when does it stop.

Slippery slope.

What does Trump have to do really.

He has to be stopped at some point...

Garland stand your ground...

Trump only understands strength.



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So how appeasement will the DOJ and FBI give to Trump. (Original Post) Texaswitchy Aug 2022 OP
Maybe they gave him back his passport to see if he would try to flee Walleye Aug 2022 #1
Maybe they gave him back his passport because that's the legal thing to do brooklynite Aug 2022 #5
I don't see why he still has a diplomatic passport. Maybe they also have a 10 year term Walleye Aug 2022 #6
Its an expired passport. I have many of mine. brooklynite Aug 2022 #9
Oh I guess I've always turned mine in before. Maybe threw it away who can remember Walleye Aug 2022 #11
They generally return them to you when you renew BannonsLiver Aug 2022 #19
My Expired Ones Are That Way ProfessorGAC Aug 2022 #29
All those great visa stamps..... brooklynite Aug 2022 #25
Former presidents retain diplomatic passports LeftInTX Aug 2022 #32
Ok. That clears that up thanks Walleye Aug 2022 #33
How is obeying the law appeasement. rsdsharp Aug 2022 #2
This is the start. Texaswitchy Aug 2022 #3
No, that's not correct Saboburns Aug 2022 #12
Why would you assume "appeasement" in the first place? brooklynite Aug 2022 #4
Because Trump is waving his private army around. Texaswitchy Aug 2022 #7
And nobody is "caving".... brooklynite Aug 2022 #8
I really hope so Texaswitchy Aug 2022 #10
My daughter who just had a baby girl has been on maternity leave. Texaswitchy Aug 2022 #13
.... MarineCombatEngineer Aug 2022 #18
Problem is so many people become committed to being right, Hortensis Aug 2022 #26
+100. nt MarineCombatEngineer Aug 2022 #28
LOL, what a fucking joke.... MarineCombatEngineer Aug 2022 #15
They better. Texaswitchy Aug 2022 #22
You're accusing AG Garland of appeasement because Benedict Donald's passports were MarineCombatEngineer Aug 2022 #23
JFC!!!! MarineCombatEngineer Aug 2022 #14
I hope so. Texaswitchy Aug 2022 #17
There is a process the AG has to follow, like a GJ indictment first, MarineCombatEngineer Aug 2022 #20
Is there a translation? BannonsLiver Aug 2022 #16
Yeah, MarineCombatEngineer Aug 2022 #21
I was never Garland fan. Texaswitchy Aug 2022 #24
Blah, blah, blah, MarineCombatEngineer Aug 2022 #27
Just remember where you heard it from.. Texaswitchy Aug 2022 #30
Again, not based on fact. nt MarineCombatEngineer Aug 2022 #31

Walleye

(31,028 posts)
1. Maybe they gave him back his passport to see if he would try to flee
Tue Aug 16, 2022, 01:48 PM
Aug 2022

These feds in law enforcement can be kind of crafty

brooklynite

(94,585 posts)
5. Maybe they gave him back his passport because that's the legal thing to do
Tue Aug 16, 2022, 01:55 PM
Aug 2022

DOJ has no right at present to restrict his travel.

Walleye

(31,028 posts)
11. Oh I guess I've always turned mine in before. Maybe threw it away who can remember
Tue Aug 16, 2022, 02:07 PM
Aug 2022

But if he was legally entitled to have it back, I have no problem with it

BannonsLiver

(16,387 posts)
19. They generally return them to you when you renew
Tue Aug 16, 2022, 02:40 PM
Aug 2022

Typically they use a hole puncher as well as another means of making sure people know it’s no longer active. Notice I got through that without a humble brag about how many passports I have, unlike the other responder.

ProfessorGAC

(65,058 posts)
29. My Expired Ones Are That Way
Tue Aug 16, 2022, 02:59 PM
Aug 2022

There's a couple holes punched all the way through them. I don't recall any other marking, though they may be there.
My current one is near expiring. Have to get a new one, I guess.
I think I got my first one in 1983, but not sure.

LeftInTX

(25,364 posts)
32. Former presidents retain diplomatic passports
Tue Aug 16, 2022, 03:14 PM
Aug 2022

It says "Former President of the United States" on it.

rsdsharp

(9,182 posts)
2. How is obeying the law appeasement.
Tue Aug 16, 2022, 01:49 PM
Aug 2022

Unless the passports are covered under the scope of the warrant, DOJ has no right to them.

Texaswitchy

(2,962 posts)
3. This is the start.
Tue Aug 16, 2022, 01:52 PM
Aug 2022

The passports were a test.

There will be more demands.

Trump is a flight risk

Not that he couldn't just disappear one day on a boat or private plane.

Saboburns

(2,807 posts)
12. No, that's not correct
Tue Aug 16, 2022, 02:12 PM
Aug 2022

It was illegal to take his passport at this time. As in not allowed by law. An oversite by the FBI. Which is why the FBI informed him of the mistake and brought it back BEFORE HE EVEN KNEW IT WAS TAKEN.

That's right, his passport was returned to him before he asked for it.

After which he tried to score points with his base by lying about how it all went down.

Naturally.



brooklynite

(94,585 posts)
4. Why would you assume "appeasement" in the first place?
Tue Aug 16, 2022, 01:53 PM
Aug 2022

People seem to search for new ways to be anticipatorally critical of Garland's performance.

Texaswitchy

(2,962 posts)
7. Because Trump is waving his private army around.
Tue Aug 16, 2022, 01:59 PM
Aug 2022

The message he sent to Garland about taking off the heat ..

I have been busy with my new granddaughter but I have been keeping up with the news.

Threatening the FBI agents family....

The Judge has death threats..

brooklynite

(94,585 posts)
8. And nobody is "caving"....
Tue Aug 16, 2022, 02:00 PM
Aug 2022

The Judge is holding a hearing on the affidavit.

The DOJ is continuing its investigations and prosecutions.

Texaswitchy

(2,962 posts)
10. I really hope so
Tue Aug 16, 2022, 02:07 PM
Aug 2022

It is early days yet..

Anyone but Trump would be locked up in a deep dark hole

The secret documents he had.

A padlock on a closet door to protect the documents.

I hope it was a set up with the camera watching....






Texaswitchy

(2,962 posts)
13. My daughter who just had a baby girl has been on maternity leave.
Tue Aug 16, 2022, 02:17 PM
Aug 2022

She works for the Federal government...

She has a really high security clearance.

I know what it took for her to get it...

For Trump to walking around free is not right.

If he gets any punishment it will be home confinement.


MarineCombatEngineer

(12,385 posts)
18. ....
Tue Aug 16, 2022, 02:38 PM
Aug 2022
If he gets any punishment it will be home confinement.


You know this for a fact? Because you're stating it as a fact.
Do you have a shred of evidence that this is true?

No, you don't, but I can see that you're another one of the doom and gloom crowd, nothing the AG or the FBI does good enough.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
26. Problem is so many people become committed to being right,
Tue Aug 16, 2022, 02:56 PM
Aug 2022

and their "right" is failure. Determining on failure is always a losing position; doesn't matter if it's being done as an emotional shield to lessen the pain, failure's still failure.

But for the life of me I don't see how anyone could imagine at this point that it's not TRUMP and company whose best chances are through appeasing the DoJ and other governments coming after them. At least dozens in the tRump camp have already made some kind of deals ( "please don't hurt me" ) and are spilling some or all of their guts. Appeasement.

MarineCombatEngineer

(12,385 posts)
15. LOL, what a fucking joke....
Tue Aug 16, 2022, 02:35 PM
Aug 2022
Because Trump is waving his private army around.


An "army" that's proven, so far, to be just as inept as he is, so far, they're 0-3.

Threatening the FBI agents family....

The Judge has death threats..


Maybe you haven't heard, but the FBI are going after these MAGAt's.

https://www.abc27.com/news/top-stories/pa-man-arrested-for-making-violent-threats-towards-fbi/

Pa. man arrested for allegedly making violent threats towards FBI


It's been all over the news, and there are several threads right here on DU about this.

Texaswitchy

(2,962 posts)
22. They better.
Tue Aug 16, 2022, 02:43 PM
Aug 2022

Look at what almost happened to the Governor of Michigan.

Some of his army know what they are doing.

MarineCombatEngineer

(12,385 posts)
23. You're accusing AG Garland of appeasement because Benedict Donald's passports were
Tue Aug 16, 2022, 02:47 PM
Aug 2022

returned to him, that's not appeasement, that's the law, which AG Garland is strictly following.

I don't know where you come up with appeasement because he was following the law, but you are clearly wrong.

Texaswitchy

(2,962 posts)
17. I hope so.
Tue Aug 16, 2022, 02:38 PM
Aug 2022

Trump stoled top secret information.

Some of it maybe sold already.

Found at his home.

You or me where would we be now.

There is law for the rich and law for the rest of us .

And they let him keep documents in a closet..

And finally had to go take it...


MarineCombatEngineer

(12,385 posts)
20. There is a process the AG has to follow, like a GJ indictment first,
Tue Aug 16, 2022, 02:40 PM
Aug 2022

which, last time I looked, hasn't happened yet but the wheels of justice are turning and turning faster.

MarineCombatEngineer

(12,385 posts)
21. Yeah,
Tue Aug 16, 2022, 02:42 PM
Aug 2022

AG Garland not moving fast enough, Benedict Donald is not going to be indicted, blah blah blah.

You know, the usual from some.

Texaswitchy

(2,962 posts)
24. I was never Garland fan.
Tue Aug 16, 2022, 02:54 PM
Aug 2022

I guarantee you Trump will flee the country or go on house confinement.

He will never get the punishment he deserves.

My daughter was warned about what would to her if she walked off with secret documents.

What makes Trump so special...

Garland will not lock Trump up.

Texaswitchy

(2,962 posts)
30. Just remember where you heard it from..
Tue Aug 16, 2022, 03:07 PM
Aug 2022

Garland will never put Trump in jail..


A lot of people will maybe go to jail but not Trump.

Garland and Trump's lawyers will reach an agreement.

A settlement.

Home confinement.

Do not get your hopes up.

That is if Trump does not flee the country.



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