Breaking: Judge unseals Trump info today, "Donald Trump as a possible subject of the criminal probe"

[Saboburns]

https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/18/politics/unsealed-documents-trump-judge/index.html

A document unsealed Thursday, which offered specifics about the crimes the Justice Department is investigating, including “willful retention of national defense information,” sharpens the focus on former President Donald Trump as a possible subject of the criminal probe, several legal experts told CNN.

US Magistrate Judge Bruce Reinhart on Thursday released several procedural court documents related to the FBI’s search of Trump’s home at Mar-a-Lago in Florida. The newly unsealed document was part of the application for the warrant and was among several largely procedural documents the judge unsealed Thursday.

Previously, the search warrant documents only listed the federal statutes, including the broad law known as the Espionage Act. And the documents released so far have made clear that Trump and others around him face potential legal exposure, including for possible obstruction of justice. A document unsealed Thursday, which offered specifics about the crimes the Justice Department is investigating, including “willful retention of national defense information,” sharpens the focus on former President Donald Trump as a possible subject of the criminal probe, several legal experts told CNN.

US Magistrate Judge Bruce Reinhart on Thursday released several procedural court documents related to the FBI’s search of Trump’s home at Mar-a-Lago in Florida. The newly unsealed document was part of the application for the warrant and was among several largely procedural documents the judge unsealed Thursday.

Previously, the search warrant documents only listed the federal statutes, including the broad law known as the Espionage Act. And the documents released so far have made clear that Trump and others around him face potential legal exposure, including for possible obstruction of justice.

[triron]

1. Hmmm.

Need Rachel to find out what this means.

[gab13by13]

17. It means that someone committed a crime involving classified documents.

[Ms. Toad]

28. Not classified -

Restricted information. Restrictions on nuclear information do not fall within the standard classification. Those restrictions are, instead, under the control of the Departments of Energy and Defense. The president is merely the tie-breaker when the DOD and DOE don't agree.

[Saboburns]

2. "You're getting warmer, and warmer, and warmer and warmer."

Do I think he's fucked? Do I think the DOJ has him sewn up? Do I think the FBI gave him rope enough to hang himself?

[TheBlackAdder]

16. I bet there's SigInt and HumInt that they already have on him and they're just toying with him now.

[Saboburns]

22. My thought exactly!

[Saboburns]

3. More here

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

[Saboburns]

4. I wonder what Federal investigation he is accused of obstructing here?

I mean it could be any number of them.

It could be the Mueller investigation, but I don't think so. Could be a federal investigation we don't yet know about. Could be...

I am intrigued.

[Straw Man]

11. I could be wrong ...

I wonder what Federal investigation he is accused of obstructing here?

I mean it could be any number of them.

... but I thought that lying to the investigators about the documents -- i.e. saying he/they had surrendered all of them when in fact he/they had not -- was itself worthy of an obstruction charge.

[Saboburns]

15. That certainly could be it.

But it's much more enjoyable to speculate on all the wonderful possibilities on internet message boards.

[ForgedCrank]

5. "possible subject of the criminal probe",

"face potential legal exposure", "possible obstruction of justice"

Bla bla bla.

I'll believe it when I see charges. So far, it's nothing more than the continuation of the blabber we have had to endure for 5 years, every one of which has failed to convict him of any crimes.
I'm telling you, this guy is slippery. He's not as dumb as he's being made out to be or he wouldn't have gotten away with so much shit already. Just look at all the stuff he's done, and no one has been able to find enough solid evidence to put this ass in jail. I'm not syaing he's necessarily smart, but he's damn good at being slimy and getting away with it.
And I'll gladly eat my hat if I'm proven wrong in the end. I'll even enjoy every bite because it would be worth it to see the look on his face following a guilty verdict.

[Saboburns]

6. yeah, I mean, how many times have they searched his house by now...20...30.

This is just one of what, like 97 warrants on Donald.

Hasn't even moved the needle across this country.

Only political junkies even care.

Merick Garland hasn't even made him guilty yet and sentenced him to 40 years by now. Hell he don't even twitter.

Total nothing burger.

[/sarcasm]

[ForgedCrank]

9. You can

beat me up as much as you want, but it won't change any of what I pointed out.

[Saboburns]

18. Not as of 10;06 pm EST on 8/18/ 2022 I can't

That is true.

And you maybe proven right. I mean the MAGAts don't seem concerned. They've been noticeably silent and hinged on this matter.

Again [/sarcasm]

[ForgedCrank]

24. Well, let's just agree

that we both hope I have to eat my hat very soon.
I'm just not willing to hold my breath anymore is all.

[Saboburns]

26. Fair enough.

All the best!

[Dave says]

25. He's not "high IQ" smart

But he is cunning and ruthless.

Without a moral fiber in his body, it’s “nuttin’ they can do about it” and “whose gonna stop me?” You know, like fat Lorenzo says when giving Michael the gun (in The Godfather).

[triron]

7. Why just 'possible subject of criminal probe'?

Looking like it's pretty definite to me.

[Saboburns]

8. You can't get a guilty verdict without righteous evidence.

You can't arrest an American in America unless a grand jury, or rarely a judge, says you can.

You can't gather evidence of a crime without a warrant.

You can't get a warrant without affidavits, sworn witness statements, wiretaps, etc.

There's an established order to these things.

It appears, I mean it seems to me, that the DOJ/FBI has more experience in convicting criminals than folks on internet message boards.

And IMHO, the DOJ/FBI is marginally better at convicting criminals than are folks on internet message boards.

But that's only my humble opinion.

[triron]

10. We're not talking about conviction.

Just being a 'subject '.

[Saboburns]

13. He may have been for months. Years. And we would never know.

Only time will tell.

[H2O Man]

19. If you read

the documents unsealed today, you'll notice Trump is never mentioned. And as a DOJ representative said in the court hearing today, this is early in the criminal investigation. Hence, there is not going to be mention of Trump being named a "subject." Things don't work that way.

[soldierant]

23. I'm holding out for "target."

[H2O Man]

27. Oh, it's going to happen.

[soldierant]

30. If I weren't pretty sure of that, i wouldn't be holding out.

[H2O Man]

31. Right!

Same here!

[ffr]

12. Jeopardizing national security better carry a hefty punitive penalty.

Fucking lock him up and throw away the key. I'm don't thinking about that waste of space.

[H2O Man]

14. Recommended.

Thank you for this!

[Saboburns]

20. It is my pleasure

A pleasure to share this.

[H2O Man]

21. It is great news!

[dalton99a]

29. Lock the motherfucker up