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Quixote1818

(28,946 posts)
Thu Aug 18, 2022, 10:07 PM Aug 2022

The GOP has reached a point of no return.

There is no place for moderates in the GOP and there will be a race to out crazy one another until there is some kind of major domestic terrorist attack or series of them before at least part of the GOP sober up if that is even possible.

Ex-CIA Director Says Today’s GOP Is Most Dangerous Political Force He’s Ever Seen
“I agree,” said Michael Hayden, in response to a journalist who covers extremism describing Republicans as "nihilistic" and "contemptible."

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/michael-hayden-cia-director-republicans_n_62fe52e4e4b077bb77a966d8

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The GOP has reached a point of no return. (Original Post) Quixote1818 Aug 2022 OP
He is right, we are in grave danger. Eliot Rosewater Aug 2022 #1
it became the party of team limbaugh, he enabled more death and destruction than hitler and stalin certainot Aug 2022 #9
I've suggested challenging license renewals. Frasier Balzov Aug 2022 #14
easier than challenging license renewals - challenge the 87 universities and dozens of pro teams tha certainot Aug 2022 #15
What do you mean the part of Limbaugh and cancer treatment? Eliot Rosewater Aug 2022 #22
i heard mark stein, who filled in for limbaugh sometimes, explain limbaugh was delaying and miss certainot Aug 2022 #24
OK...but imagine risking your LIFE, literally, to help someone who would not cross the street Eliot Rosewater Aug 2022 #27
limbaugh is the reason trump got to the white house. they were neighbors, golf partners, regular certainot Aug 2022 #34
There is no "S" on that link, so it is not secure. Eliot Rosewater Aug 2022 #39
there's a lock and https - it's same as for here! - so is there something else? certainot Aug 2022 #42
The 87 universities hyperlink there was no S and your sig there is no S Eliot Rosewater Aug 2022 #43
when i click on it this what it shows https://www.fakenewsradio.org but if you have certainot Aug 2022 #46
basically trump shot the horse he rode in on. typical. certainot Aug 2022 #26
Seriously, I agree and here's why. OAITW r.2.0 Aug 2022 #2
Tax Reform means tax cuts for the ruling class n/t hibbing Aug 2022 #7
35 yrs 30 years keeps coming up. because that's when they gave limbaugh 600 radio stations and certainot Aug 2022 #28
Pretty much. Create the opposition by telling lies. OAITW r.2.0 Aug 2022 #29
They reached that point a while ago MyMission Aug 2022 #3
I propose a Liz Cheney 3rd party write in for POTUS candidacy Saboburns Aug 2022 #4
I hope it plays out that way. OAITW r.2.0 Aug 2022 #30
That's my dream Saboburns Aug 2022 #33
Either we stop DeStupid from becoming president, or it is all over and fast. Eliot Rosewater Aug 2022 #40
This message was self-deleted by its author Baked Potato Aug 2022 #5
They are irredeemable. hay rick Aug 2022 #6
Authoritarians markodochartaigh Aug 2022 #16
They are all traitors.... Bread and Circuses Aug 2022 #8
'mainstream' gop listened to limbaugh before trump killed him and yes, he was a russian tool too certainot Aug 2022 #11
Sounds like a great conspiracy theory! OAITW r.2.0 Aug 2022 #31
Limbaugh as GOP god or trump killed him? certainot Aug 2022 #35
Sad but true peppertree Aug 2022 #13
The nihilism comes from the evangelics. temporary311 Aug 2022 #10
Exactly, even Barry Goldwater admitted it markodochartaigh Aug 2022 #17
Real gone... Blue Owl Aug 2022 #12
There is one thing I agree with Liz Cheney on, it will take a few more election cycles for things to PortTack Aug 2022 #18
Republicans have declared they don't lose elections anymore Gregory Peccary Aug 2022 #19
+1 OAITW r.2.0 Aug 2022 #32
The question is how far down the fascicst hole they will pull us Mysterian Aug 2022 #20
And what tools they will have to pull us in that hole dwayneb Aug 2022 #44
It's the Base of the GOP that's gone Roc2020 Aug 2022 #21
We need the House like we did in 2018. Roe your vote! Hermit-The-Prog Aug 2022 #23
I agree rockfordfile Aug 2022 #38
Definitely... WarGamer Aug 2022 #25
If Trump or DeSantis win in 2024 we are done dwayneb Aug 2022 #45
The onus is on the Republican Party... kentuck Aug 2022 #36
If you think of them as an Organized Crime Party. OAITW r.2.0 Aug 2022 #37
Any domestic terrorist attack by MAGAts will further bury Trump... AntiFascist Aug 2022 #41

Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
1. He is right, we are in grave danger.
Thu Aug 18, 2022, 10:09 PM
Aug 2022

For them to have gone this nuts they had to be immature children to begin with.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
9. it became the party of team limbaugh, he enabled more death and destruction than hitler and stalin
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 12:05 AM
Aug 2022

by delaying global warming action alone. then trump killed him but getting him to delay and miss the best cancer treatments important billionaires can get.

teabags, trumpers - all dittoheads, not children

until americans stop ignoring rw radio they're ignoring a huge part of why we got here, and missing a huge opportunity to destroy this iteration of the GOP once and for all.

there are easy ways to destroy RW radio and end all this.

Frasier Balzov

(2,654 posts)
14. I've suggested challenging license renewals.
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 12:20 AM
Aug 2022

But I was quickly informed here on DU that lies and incendiary rhetoric are not permissible reasons to deny license renewal.

That doesn't seem right, but I guess one man's poison is another man's free speech.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
15. easier than challenging license renewals - challenge the 87 universities and dozens of pro teams tha
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 12:54 AM
Aug 2022

that broadcast sports on 260+ x-limbaugh stations

one university forced into a public debate about their use of black athletes to support radio stations that call BLM a terrorist organization would spread to other unis and advertisers would head for the hills. the GOP's secret weapon would fall apart

87 universities crapping on their mission statements

Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
22. What do you mean the part of Limbaugh and cancer treatment?
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 03:54 PM
Aug 2022

I dont doubt it but I dont understand what you mean. (I dont doubt that trump would have fucked something up.)

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
24. i heard mark stein, who filled in for limbaugh sometimes, explain limbaugh was delaying and miss
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 06:54 PM
Aug 2022

missing treatments so he could help trump in the rough spots - helping push excuses, lies, legislation, attack critics, etc

so instead of staying home and laying on the beach or whatever, he was working when trump needed him. lung cancer's not easy to beat but he would have had the best available to the billionaires. sometimes he was upbeat and optimistic "we're rounding third!!" etc

whether he might have survived it or not it is likely trump sped up his death

Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
27. OK...but imagine risking your LIFE, literally, to help someone who would not cross the street
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 08:15 PM
Aug 2022

to save yours.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
34. limbaugh is the reason trump got to the white house. they were neighbors, golf partners, regular
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 11:03 PM
Aug 2022

partyers. you can see the pics on duck or google

trump was and now is shit without limbaugh

the russians may have been using limbaugh since at least 2008 when they made mccain pick palin

in 2014 trump got lawyer sam nunberg to listen to "1000s of hours or talk radio" and trump "was getting reports". the reports went through stone to the russian troll farms.

how long were palm beach neighbors limbaugh and trump working for putin? how many republican billionaires would want limbaugh to spend weeks before the sept 2011 debt default deadline telling the millions of dittohead teabag trumpers default was a good thing! putin would love it...

when the talking heads were gushing over trump's 'branding genius' a random sampling had limbaugh saying "trump" 50 times per hr to 15 mil every day

there's a pic of trump with limbaugh christmas 2019 about the time trump would have decided the covid briefings meant if it got really bad he could call state of emergency and cancel elections. limbaugh would not have called covid a hoax if trump wanted opposite.

today i heard limbaugh replacement bongino on half his stations repeat that masks don't work and mandates are socialist, communist. and then go on about hunter biden.......

why the fuck do dems still let 87 universities support that crap?

Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
43. The 87 universities hyperlink there was no S and your sig there is no S
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 05:05 PM
Aug 2022

the 87 universities didnt show it either way...

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
46. when i click on it this what it shows https://www.fakenewsradio.org but if you have
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 11:08 PM
Aug 2022

a better security screener info, share it.

on the other hand i wouldn't put it past the cons to create a virus that warns people off sites like that.......

OAITW r.2.0

(24,504 posts)
2. Seriously, I agree and here's why.
Thu Aug 18, 2022, 10:15 PM
Aug 2022

(1) They haven't bothered with legislation in the past 35 years. Except tax reform,,,,they are always reforming taxes.
(2) No Platform. What do they believe in? Their answer: Why do you ask?
(3) Rigging elections in Republican states just isn't enough....we have to destroy the federal electoral process to win.

Power for power's sake. That's their endgame. Just like in Putin's Russia. Where they win forever because they are the law.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
28. 35 yrs 30 years keeps coming up. because that's when they gave limbaugh 600 radio stations and
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 08:30 PM
Aug 2022

he repeated everything the RW think tanks fed him. since no one could call his 'talk show' they called all the other hosts on those and many other stations that eventually became 1000 and made sure they followed the same line. the dittohead effect.

limbaugh was an insecure sex on the wrong brain authoritarian with a genius for rationalizing lies and excuses, maybe to avoid being spanked, who got insulated from feedback and led the GOP off the deep end. as a dropout he hated teachers , "screwels", and everything liberal. maybe along haired hippie took his love interest when he was a kid.

then the russians realized what was happening over here and figured out they could take the GOP by feeding limbaugh and the 1500 radio stations he led.

MyMission

(1,850 posts)
3. They reached that point a while ago
Thu Aug 18, 2022, 10:59 PM
Aug 2022

About time the media sounds the alarm!

Not that it will do much good. Those remaining in the GOPQ are, for the most part, indoctrinated and willing to go along with the madness.

Saboburns

(2,807 posts)
4. I propose a Liz Cheney 3rd party write in for POTUS candidacy
Thu Aug 18, 2022, 11:17 PM
Aug 2022

Think of all those millions of un-fucked conservatives who will vote for her instead of him. Liz would cheerfully help drive a stake thru his heart. It would split the Republican party nigh on forever. T'would cause him hours, days, weeks, months, years of molar grinding. And we'd actually witness MAGAt heads exploding ala Scanners. I think she'd approach 20% of the Republican vote. And that would embarrass the fvck out him.

OAITW r.2.0

(24,504 posts)
30. I hope it plays out that way.
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 09:59 PM
Aug 2022

Even if she loses, I think she would kick Trump's ass. Huge Biden win as Liz takes the lion share of the "Republican" vote. Trump in 3rd place

Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

hay rick

(7,624 posts)
6. They are irredeemable.
Thu Aug 18, 2022, 11:36 PM
Aug 2022

Republicans are not going to have a come to Jesus moment. Democrats need to have a come to Jesus moment with the reality that Republicans are not our partners in democracy. They are the enemies of American democracy and need to be treated accordingly.

markodochartaigh

(1,138 posts)
16. Authoritarians
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 01:19 AM
Aug 2022

In 2015 and Republicans were going to have a brokered convention to pick another candidate but because Trump was so wildly popular with the 80% of their base who are authoritarians, the Republicans put party before country and picked Trump. When they did that they mortally wounded democracy in the US. Democracy requires at least two parties who are committed to the electoral process. Authoritarians don't want democracy if they don't win. The Bushes, Cheneys, Romney etc. wouldn't even support Trump after he was nominated. This unprecedented action was because they knew that they had an unprecedented candidate, and they knew his friends and supporters. The US now has only one viable party which is committed to democracy. Until the corporate Republicans take back control of their party or come up with a viable alternative which is committed to democracy, democracy in the US will be on life support at best.

Bread and Circuses

(133 posts)
8. They are all traitors....
Thu Aug 18, 2022, 11:54 PM
Aug 2022

I recently had a discussion with a casual acquaintance who still associates with Trumpers. And the listen to Alex Jones, too. She thinks that we (democrats) need to still be friendly with these Arseholes. Because they are human beings too an blah, blah, blah.

I told her that this is not 1980. They literally want to harm us. I didn't want to use the word 'kill'. Democrats need to be tough and stop being gentlemen. Call them out and it may be that hundreds of them nailed to be arrested if they try to blow up the country. Personally I believe , the people inciting them need to be arrested for federal insurrection crimes. This has gotten way out of control . And, Yes. Russia is behind all this crap.

OAITW r.2.0

(24,504 posts)
31. Sounds like a great conspiracy theory!
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 10:03 PM
Aug 2022

'mainstream' gop listened to limbaugh before trump killed him

Thanks for posting nothing!

peppertree

(21,639 posts)
13. Sad but true
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 12:14 AM
Aug 2022

These people are now at what looks a lot like the early stages of the "years of lead" that beset Argentina and Italy in the '70s.

The violent "be a patriot - kill a (fill in the blank)" rhetoric is now starting to materialize into lethal attacks.

If not nipped in the bud, it could easily snowball within 3-5 years.

And many own AR-15s.

temporary311

(955 posts)
10. The nihilism comes from the evangelics.
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 12:12 AM
Aug 2022

They're a doomsday cult, they've hijacked the Republican party, and it's the party's own fault.

markodochartaigh

(1,138 posts)
17. Exactly, even Barry Goldwater admitted it
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 01:23 AM
Aug 2022

Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the [Republican] party, and they're sure trying to do so, it's going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can't and won't compromise. I know, I've tried to deal with them.
Said in November 1994, as quoted in John Dean, Conservatives Without Conscience (2006).

PortTack

(32,778 posts)
18. There is one thing I agree with Liz Cheney on, it will take a few more election cycles for things to
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 01:28 AM
Aug 2022

Turn. JMHO the next two election cycles are critical. the gqp has to resoundingly lose. This will neuter the orange mass if he is not already dead or health wise completely incapacitated.

Gregory Peccary

(490 posts)
19. Republicans have declared they don't lose elections anymore
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 12:11 PM
Aug 2022

It is always stolen from them. A particularly evil and dangerous facet of their anti democracy goals.

Mysterian

(4,588 posts)
20. The question is how far down the fascicst hole they will pull us
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 12:13 PM
Aug 2022

Yes, we will have to fight to prevent this evil portion of our population from destroying our country.

dwayneb

(768 posts)
44. And what tools they will have to pull us in that hole
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 05:54 PM
Aug 2022

The Founders didn't do us any favors. There are so many weaknesses and ways to destroy our democracy from within, they just assumed that the voting public would always be rational and logical and never self destructive.

Roc2020

(1,616 posts)
21. It's the Base of the GOP that's gone
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 12:21 PM
Aug 2022

I think it's so bad that it's a real possibility that the country will split in territory. Hope it happens without violence.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,349 posts)
23. We need the House like we did in 2018. Roe your vote!
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 06:34 PM
Aug 2022

Roe, Roe, Roe your vote
against theocracy!
Republicans revoke your rights
and kill democracy!

A wave can overwhelm the gerrymander. The radicalized Republican party will work to unravel everything that's been accomplished by Biden and Democrats. They will tie up the House and work to damage education, the DoJ, the economy, health care, voting rights, environmental regulations, and climate change legislation.

dwayneb

(768 posts)
45. If Trump or DeSantis win in 2024 we are done
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 05:55 PM
Aug 2022

They will finish the job that Trump began. Dump the Constitution in the trash and establish their one party police state, for once and all.

AntiFascist

(12,792 posts)
41. Any domestic terrorist attack by MAGAts will further bury Trump...
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 01:53 PM
Aug 2022

the vultures are already circling the rotting corpse of his presidential aspirations.
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