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Demovictory9

(32,457 posts)
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 04:38 AM Aug 2022

sucker punch guy out of jail. charges downgraded from attempted murder to assault, victim in coma



https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/bui-van-phu-released-without-bail-bronx-sucker-punch-attack/

NEW YORK -- The suspect in a violent unprovoked attack in the Bronx was released without bail Thursday.

Charges against 55-year-old Bui Van Phu were downgraded from attempted murder to assault and harassment.


Surveillance video shows Phu hit Jesus Cortes in the back of the head, knocking him to the ground on East 188th Street in Fordham.

The Bronx District Attorney says Cortes has a fractured skull and is currently in a coma.
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sucker punch guy out of jail. charges downgraded from attempted murder to assault, victim in coma (Original Post) Demovictory9 Aug 2022 OP
I'm sorry, am I misunderstanding this? WTF? IcyPeas Aug 2022 #1
He raped a teen at gunpoint Demovictory9 Aug 2022 #2
Shouldn't his parole be revoked and his a$$ thrown back to prison? LisaL Aug 2022 #4
Here are other mugshots taken in the gap between 2015 and his near murder of Jesus Cortes: Judi Lynn Aug 2022 #21
Am I missing something? LisaL Aug 2022 #3
I don't understand it either Demovictory9 Aug 2022 #5
What are the conditions of his parole that he can LisaL Aug 2022 #6
The karma fairy needs to visit this asshole. rubbersole Aug 2022 #7
Sometimes it is so depressing to read the news every morning. Ferrets are Cool Aug 2022 #8
People don't understand that the courts Johnny2X2X Aug 2022 #9
Exactly. LisaL Aug 2022 #14
Even regular assaults need harsher punishments Johnny2X2X Aug 2022 #17
" the Right Wing judge with a Right Wing prosecutor let this guy off " AND every news story Demovictory9 Aug 2022 #20
Stories like this are what fuels the kacekwl Aug 2022 #10
If it works its because it is outrageous. LisaL Aug 2022 #11
It's generally rightwing judges Elessar Zappa Aug 2022 #12
I don't think this is a right wing judge. LisaL Aug 2022 #13
Not saying this particular judge is rightwing, Elessar Zappa Aug 2022 #16
The prosecutor has more say than the judge Johnny2X2X Aug 2022 #18
You may be right but kacekwl Aug 2022 #15
This is Trump's America The Protagonist Aug 2022 #19
Notice he put on gloves first so he wouldn't hurt his hands. Guy is dangerous and out of control. Midnight Writer Aug 2022 #22
BREAKING: He has been detained again..... thanks to Gov Kathy Hochul IcyPeas Aug 2022 #23
While I am very glad that perp is where he belongs (jail) LisaL Aug 2022 #24

IcyPeas

(21,886 posts)
1. I'm sorry, am I misunderstanding this? WTF?
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 04:56 AM
Aug 2022

From link...

Phu has been on parole since 2015 for a felony sex crime.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
3. Am I missing something?
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 06:20 AM
Aug 2022

If someone is out on parole (for rape), and then violently punches an innocent victim, shouldn't that parole be revoked?
Victim is in the hospital in a coma as far as I can tell.
And the attacker is walking free.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
6. What are the conditions of his parole that he can
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 06:49 AM
Aug 2022

violently attack people on the street and not violate the parole?
Haul his a$$ back to prison.

Johnny2X2X

(19,066 posts)
9. People don't understand that the courts
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 08:36 AM
Aug 2022

Last edited Fri Aug 19, 2022, 09:22 AM - Edit history (2)

I see this locally, people don't understand that our justice system doesn't take assault very seriously as a crime.

We have a violent drunk in our neighborhood, and he's got a record a mile long. At the beginning of Summer he approached a woman with her little daughter in broad daylight at a little league game and asked her for money, when she refused he attacked her, punching her in the face. People chased him off, he then exposed himself to some children and resisted arrest. The Nextdoor chat about the incident revealed that people thought he as going away for years. I even got people to write the judge and prosecutors. He also was a convicted sex offender who was out of compliance with his registry. He did 75 days total in jail. People are just stunned, but I'm not, assault is just not a big deal in the courts. This woman was traumatized, her daughter is in therapy and refuses to go to parks anymore, it's an event that is going to effect their lives for years. But the Right Wing judge with a Right Wing prosecutor let this guy off with a slap on the wrist. He's already released and menacing the neighborhood.

Our system is out of whack. Violent crimes like assault need to come with serious consequences. The criminal code seems to care more about drug and property crimes. Someone who sucker punches someone like this is a grave danger to society, they need to be removed from our communities for a long time.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
14. Exactly.
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 09:20 AM
Aug 2022

Violent un-provoked assault that ends up with a victim in the coma shouldn't be classified as a misdemeanor.

Johnny2X2X

(19,066 posts)
17. Even regular assaults need harsher punishments
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 09:31 AM
Aug 2022

There are men that get in scores of bar fights in their lives and never do any real time over it. If it's like your 8th misdemeanor assault charge, that person needs to face years in prison.

I bounced at bars, at one we had a regular who would get arrested almost every week for fighting, and he'd rarely even spend a full night in jail over it. Was always just nothing more than a hassle for him, after like his 25th arrest he finally got 60 days in jail, most of his other sentences were a weekend in jail, or at most 10 days. Guy left a trail of black eyes, broken teeth, and broken jaws in his wake for decades and never faced any real consequences over it. And of course when you're fighting that much, you're really good at it and the people you're assaulting have no idea who they're up against.

One problem is that when people are assaulted, there's a shame associated with pressing charges. Few guys who lose a bar fight want to relive it in court. And even the violent drunk in my neighborhood has assaulted women and had them not press charges. There's a great deal of victim shaming that is engrained in our culture.

Demovictory9

(32,457 posts)
20. " the Right Wing judge with a Right Wing prosecutor let this guy off " AND every news story
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 11:33 AM
Aug 2022

about something like this is followed with comments "left wing cities, blah blah", "libs are anti crime"

kacekwl

(7,017 posts)
10. Stories like this are what fuels the
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 08:53 AM
Aug 2022

"Bleeding heart liberals" narrative. No matter who is responsible for decisions like this the pukes will blame the democrats and it works.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
11. If it works its because it is outrageous.
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 08:59 AM
Aug 2022

A sex offender out on parole violently punches an un-suspecting victim (who is now in a coma) for no apparent reason, and is out (he didn't even have to post bail).
Who decided this was a way to deal with violent criminals?

Elessar Zappa

(14,004 posts)
12. It's generally rightwing judges
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 09:02 AM
Aug 2022

that don’t take assault seriously. They tend to throw the book at drug users but assault? Not so much.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
13. I don't think this is a right wing judge.
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 09:18 AM
Aug 2022

"Judge Giyang An formerly served with the Bronx County District Attorney's Office in the Criminal Court, Intake, and Narcotics Bureaus, and the Gun Readiness Unit of the Trial Bureau. She most recently served as an Assistant Attorney General with the Office of the New York State Attorney General in the Torts Section of the Claims Bureau, Division of State Counsel. She also teaches as an Adjunct Professor of Law, Lawyering, and Legal Writing at the Benjamin N. Cardozo School of Law, Yeshiva University. She is a graduate of the University of California, Irvine and received her J.D. from the Benjamin N. Cardozo School of Law, Yeshiva University."

https://www1.nyc.gov/office-of-the-mayor/news/861-21/mayor-de-blasio-appoints-1-judge-family-court-4-judges-criminal-court-7-judges-civil

Elessar Zappa

(14,004 posts)
16. Not saying this particular judge is rightwing,
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 09:21 AM
Aug 2022

I’m just saying, in general, those are my observations.

Johnny2X2X

(19,066 posts)
18. The prosecutor has more say than the judge
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 09:35 AM
Aug 2022

It's the prosecutor who would seek to or agree to downgrading charges. The judge can say no, but they rarely do.

kacekwl

(7,017 posts)
15. You may be right but
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 09:20 AM
Aug 2022

these stories are told by the "law and order" party as generalities with no context to blame libs.

Midnight Writer

(21,768 posts)
22. Notice he put on gloves first so he wouldn't hurt his hands. Guy is dangerous and out of control.
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 01:32 PM
Aug 2022

He will keep attacking people until he is stopped.

IcyPeas

(21,886 posts)
23. BREAKING: He has been detained again..... thanks to Gov Kathy Hochul
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 02:37 PM
Aug 2022
NEW: Gov. Kathy Hochul says the state has detained Bui Van Phu, 55, after he was released without bail after murder charge was downgraded

...
"I directed the Department of Corrections and Community Service supervision to immediately examine whether or not this parole violation occurred. Yes, it did" Hochul said










LisaL

(44,973 posts)
24. While I am very glad that perp is where he belongs (jail)
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 05:53 PM
Aug 2022

it shouldn't take a governor to make sure someone like this perp doesn't end up back on the street.

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