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kpete

(71,996 posts)
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 09:56 AM Aug 2022

This needs to be the DOMINANT NARRATIVE.

“We now have a presidency where the president has delivered the largest economic recovery plan since Roosevelt, the largest infrastructure plan since Eisenhower, the most judges confirmed since Kennedy, the second largest health care bill since Johnson, and the largest climate change bill in history. … The first time we’ve done gun control since President Clinton was here, the first time ever an African American woman has been put on the U.S. Supreme Court. … I think it’s a record to take to the American people.”

— White House chief of staff Ron Klein, in an interview with Politico.
https://www.politico.com/newsletters/playbook/2022/08/19/ron-klain-says-season-of-substance-could-save-dems-00052839?nname=playbook&nid=0000014f-1646-d88f-a1cf-5f46b7bd0000&nrid=0000014e-f0ed-dd93-ad7f-f8edad790000&nlid=630318

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This needs to be the DOMINANT NARRATIVE. (Original Post) kpete Aug 2022 OP
K & R . . . Lovie777 Aug 2022 #1
In real inflation adjusted numbers? IbogaProject Aug 2022 #2
It would be cool to have an ad showing people actually at work, "shovel ready" panader0 Aug 2022 #12
Experience makes a difference. summer_in_TX Aug 2022 #22
Amazing, isn't it not fooled Aug 2022 #28
I think the Democrats would do quite well lunatica Aug 2022 #29
Yes and cover Infrastructure. IbogaProject Aug 2022 #43
Will Americans appreciate a POTUS who is a good man, and makes their lives much better? Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #3
Even if you meant these as rhetorical, sadly we KNOW the answers. Moostache Aug 2022 #15
Yes. Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #27
The American People will appreciate him. OldBaldy1701E Aug 2022 #17
K&R secondwind Aug 2022 #4
Couple it with repub attacks on women's rights and health care... Wounded Bear Aug 2022 #5
Yep. The RepubliQan agenda: Justice matters. Aug 2022 #9
Yes, compare and contrast. This should motivate even the most apathetic voter. Hermit-The-Prog Aug 2022 #32
Yes, yes, YES!!! liberalla Aug 2022 #6
Get this into ad format before the midterms, Dems. yorkster Aug 2022 #7
Exactly the narrative that we need MissMillie Aug 2022 #8
Ron Klein is a Hero marieo1 Aug 2022 #10
Someone posted this. usonian Aug 2022 #11
This chart appeals to me, but what Dem groups need to do (more of?) is use focus groups Dark n Stormy Knight Aug 2022 #39
The reason I am jumping up and down and screaming out loud is that DNC seems to be spending a few usonian Aug 2022 #44
This message was self-deleted by its author traitorsgalore Aug 2022 #13
Ron Klain. dchill Aug 2022 #14
It's sad, the media can't trash Biden anymore, si elias7 Aug 2022 #16
Talk it UP! calimary Aug 2022 #18
The Biden presidency is shaping up to be a once-in-a-generation presidency Victor_c3 Aug 2022 #19
So interesting that they included Jackson's SCOTUS appointment intheflow Aug 2022 #20
thank you llashram Aug 2022 #21
Yes! Wild blueberry Aug 2022 #23
Sure but don't forget...Roe, Roe and more Roe which has changed voting patterns... Demsrule86 Aug 2022 #24
Thank you! BaronChocula Aug 2022 #25
K&R, uponit7771 Aug 2022 #26
Fill the airwaves. Repeat repeat repeat housecat Aug 2022 #30
More Democrats, please. Hermit-The-Prog Aug 2022 #31
+ 10,000 nt TigressDem Aug 2022 #41
Simone Sanders said that they need to go to each state BigmanPigman Aug 2022 #33
Not to mention getting the PACT act which helps veterans DLCWIdem Aug 2022 #34
...K&R... spanone Aug 2022 #35
The definitive case against term limits. live love laugh Aug 2022 #36
We are winning and will enjoy better lives randr Aug 2022 #37
And all they talk about is f*ing Trump the Traitor Joinfortmill Aug 2022 #38
And gas prices are going down. TigressDem Aug 2022 #40
No mention of the first woman VP and the fact she is a woman of color? Stinky The Clown Aug 2022 #42
Make it a 10-second sound bite Roy Rolling Aug 2022 #45

IbogaProject

(2,816 posts)
2. In real inflation adjusted numbers?
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 10:10 AM
Aug 2022

Last edited Fri Aug 19, 2022, 10:46 AM - Edit history (1)

I love How Biden and have been pleased with is work. I just need to ask are these numbers inflation adjusted.

[Edit] It appears so.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2021/10/02/joe-biden-new-deal-infrastructure/

Wow, who would think a multi-decade Senator would be able to get real stuff done.

He should do a real "Infrastructure Week" to Brag, propose even more, and totally showcase how puny TFG's legislatitive record was.

panader0

(25,816 posts)
12. It would be cool to have an ad showing people actually at work, "shovel ready"
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 11:04 AM
Aug 2022

and showcase it to promote the infrastructure plan in action.

summer_in_TX

(2,739 posts)
22. Experience makes a difference.
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 01:02 PM
Aug 2022

Biden is so low key and humble that we don’t think of him as transformational.

not fooled

(5,801 posts)
28. Amazing, isn't it
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 02:23 PM
Aug 2022

Joe's accomplishments--which confer positive change for all Americans--are not given the press or praise they deserve. In contrast, an obnoxious braggart who did nothing or worse--unless you consider his tax cuts for the wealthy as consructive--is viewed more positively in the minds of his deluded followers.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
29. I think the Democrats would do quite well
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 02:48 PM
Aug 2022

if they created a documentary style ad to explore what the benefits of climate change legislation would look like. I’d love to see one! It’s a very exciting subject. Like watching the architecture development in Dubai. Something showing climate change initiatives from drawing board to completion. Skyscraper farms to smart houses to advancing AI usage. Something like you see in Curiosity Stream. I believe anything is possible if we throw enough money at it.

IbogaProject

(2,816 posts)
43. Yes and cover Infrastructure.
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 12:09 AM
Aug 2022

Biden should brag about it being an Infrastructure Administration by touting how huge the smaller then he desired packages passed have amounted to bigger than Eisenhour, FDR or LBJ's big famous initiatives in inflation adjusted real dollars.
I've seen many times the usual road and bridge work the last 18 months than I've seen ever both in number of projects and the scale of the work being done. .
I hope some of those party groups like DNC, DCCC and the like really tout everything we have done and how much more we can do with more
Senators and more Congresspeople. I also think we need to emphasize that tax cuts for the Rich have failed over the last 40 years. And when middle class and low income people get extra money they spend it, quickly, efficiently, and typically locally, these all boost the economy and have a multiplier effect. A wealthy person is likely to not spend that extra money anytime as quick, often not even in our country.

Irish_Dem

(47,124 posts)
3. Will Americans appreciate a POTUS who is a good man, and makes their lives much better?
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 10:13 AM
Aug 2022

Works hard to protect the people and gives them easier, happier and healthier lives?

Or will the American people continue to adore a ruthless sociopath who does nothing but destroy the country?

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
15. Even if you meant these as rhetorical, sadly we KNOW the answers.
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 11:17 AM
Aug 2022

45% of the American people will recognize Biden's accomplishments and initiatives
45% of the American people will continue to sniff glue and eat paint chips while screaming about pronouns and rights
10% of the American people will vote for whomever is "winning" the messaging cycle in the 5 days ahead of the Presidential Election in 2024.

That last 10% are the ones I really struggle to understand now.

Trump is, was and ever shall be a nuclear dumpster fire of graft, crass self-promotion and idiocy wrapped in an artificial wrapper and doused in gallons of artificial coloring. His actual record in office is worse than anything ever seen in the 230+ year history of the republic. There are no accomplishments - short of being temporally lucky for SCOTUS nominations and assisted by the bloodless reptile from Kentucky in that matter.

The fact that every single member of that mushy 10% is not horrified by what we have witnessed since 2016 is mind-blowing.

Irish_Dem

(47,124 posts)
27. Yes.
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 01:52 PM
Aug 2022

Very good description of Trump, perfect as a matter of fact.

Yes he is the worse president in American history. And I believe we have yet to know the full extent of his crimes and damage to our country.

Most of the credit for SCOTUS goes to McConnell, as ruthless a sociopath as they come.
Also one of the worst in American history.

The 10% you describe are fairly common. We have all known people like this, sometimes unfortunately a boss. They always just go with the opinion of the last person they talk to.

Could be they are lazy, don't want to work at anything. Or have a low IQ, or poor judgement and lack of critical thinking skills, poor memory.

The people who adore Trump are the problem. Someday there are going to be dissertations written about this group.

OldBaldy1701E

(5,129 posts)
17. The American People will appreciate him.
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 11:27 AM
Aug 2022

The American (and by extension the world) media will not. Being successful and proper does not create clicks. We need to make sure to point this out as well. Whenever a particular media decides to bash the Democratic agenda, we need to refer to this list and remind them that the list is made up of success, not clickbait.

Justice matters.

(6,930 posts)
9. Yep. The RepubliQan agenda:
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 10:33 AM
Aug 2022

More tax cuts for Billionaires and Millionaires.

End of Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and Obamacare.

Defund the FBI, and send copies of all Top-Secret Classified documents to Putin.

Criminalize abortion and healt care services for women in each and every state.

Allow RepubliQan state legislatures to destroy votes they don't like.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,349 posts)
32. Yes, compare and contrast. This should motivate even the most apathetic voter.
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 04:20 PM
Aug 2022

There seems to be a trend amongst Republican presidents:

yorkster

(1,497 posts)
7. Get this into ad format before the midterms, Dems.
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 10:31 AM
Aug 2022

A clear, strong message. Thx.

Small point - Ron Klain not Klein.

MissMillie

(38,560 posts)
8. Exactly the narrative that we need
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 10:32 AM
Aug 2022

and no mention of TFG.

With a record like this, we don't need to run against TFG any more.

marieo1

(1,402 posts)
10. Ron Klein is a Hero
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 10:46 AM
Aug 2022

Joe Biden is a super President.........thank you Ron Klein.......I have always admired and respected you.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
39. This chart appeals to me, but what Dem groups need to do (more of?) is use focus groups
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 09:45 PM
Aug 2022

to find out which methods actually work to get pro-Dem messages heard & understood by the most Americans and put as much money as possible behind whatever the research says will work.

Rs do this and it works.

usonian

(9,811 posts)
44. The reason I am jumping up and down and screaming out loud is that DNC seems to be spending a few
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 01:43 AM
Aug 2022

months after every new revelation (I think last week there were about 10 of them) and might have a unified message a few months after midterms and at that point, spend a couple of years thinking REAL HARD about the election, given that they will hedge whether Joe Biden chooses to run (he says YES) or if Adlai Stevenson returns to life and has a different platform. (ultra-sarcasm here)

I would rather "Shotgun" (pardon the analogy) a lot of very important issues to see what sticks at the polls than spend the next 12 months writing a thesis.

Dont forget, since the big turn from a GOP platform to a putin-led GQP "all hate and resentment" it is a simple equation. Whatever gets the mob angriest.

destruction is easy. Construction is hard.

MESSAGE, GOTV, FIGHT AND KICK ASS.
ANY MORE THAN THIS IS TIME WASTED (IMNSHO)
Rs get off their fat asses. For vile reasons, but they get their poisoned message out.

https://democraticunderground.com/?com=edit&forum=1002&thread=17055516&pid=17055646

MESSAGE LIKE CRAZY
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217021833

GOTV
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217021748

LINKS, ACTION ITEMS, Fighting Facts, and ENCOURAGEMENT!
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217021793



Am I in a mood today? Apples latest upgrade about 90% bricked my iphone, and I spent hours trying to recover. Yup, looks like another cheap one is on the agenda. I will get the cheapest one I can latch on to.

Response to kpete (Original post)

calimary

(81,304 posts)
18. Talk it UP!
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 11:34 AM
Aug 2022

Push that narrative!

Tell ‘em, and then tell ‘em AGAIN!

Repeat and then repeat SOME MORE!!!

Wonder why you see the same commercials over and over again? The advertisers know. Repeated messaging WORKS! It generates SALES. The ad buyers know, and that’s why you see all those commercials on repeat!

Keep driving that messaging forward! Cuz it WORKS.

Victor_c3

(3,557 posts)
19. The Biden presidency is shaping up to be a once-in-a-generation presidency
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 11:40 AM
Aug 2022

And we’re not even half way through his term!

A series of adds needs to be aired constantly reminding people of what Democrats get done.

intheflow

(28,476 posts)
20. So interesting that they included Jackson's SCOTUS appointment
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 12:16 PM
Aug 2022

As a first for Black women, but just skipped over Harris. Still, a great sentiment overall, and should be our party’s mantra going into the midterms.

Demsrule86

(68,586 posts)
24. Sure but don't forget...Roe, Roe and more Roe which has changed voting patterns...
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 01:09 PM
Aug 2022

We need to win so as to save lives and stop the wholesale attack on women.

BaronChocula

(1,559 posts)
25. Thank you!
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 01:32 PM
Aug 2022

It seems like I'm constantly posting about how focus should be on repeating effective messages, in good times and in bad, but you know progressives and effective messaging...

BigmanPigman

(51,608 posts)
33. Simone Sanders said that they need to go to each state
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 05:30 PM
Aug 2022

and tell the citizens exactly how it will help them in their lives. She said the Biden team is working on this. Another guest on MSNBC said that the media could help (yes, YOU MSNBC) by focusing on the good trends in the economy instead of doom and gloom all the time the mention Biden's name. I applauded that last statement. The media is responsible for a lot of the negativity and they know it!!

randr

(12,412 posts)
37. We are winning and will enjoy better lives
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 05:58 PM
Aug 2022

They have lost and have only idle threats to soothe their anger.

TigressDem

(5,125 posts)
40. And gas prices are going down.
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 12:03 AM
Aug 2022

California is still high, but prices span from < 2.87 - 5.01

AND I know I got E85 for $2.85 the last time I filled up my flex fuel car.

https://www.gasbuddy.com/gaspricemap?lat=38.822395&lng=-96.591588&z=4

What's the best price in your area?

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