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Augiedog

(2,548 posts)
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 10:02 AM Aug 2022

Opinion: Trump took classified info docs home to cash in on them...period.

One way or another he expected to make money selling secrets. That’s what he does, besides stiffing employees out of their fairly earned wages. He has a history of this stuff…it’s not a secret that Trump is all about trump and cash. He has mountains of debt to refinance, guess how he planned to manage that.

This is just another of his unethical, immoral and anti American actions that further his criminal inclinations. It’s likely he went into the presidency with the idea of monetizing it and using social chaos as camouflage for his nefarious actions.

The consistency of his indecencies, the crassness of his behaviors, and the lies he churned out as if that was what he wanted his legacy to be are so evident and publicly glaring that it astonishing. Anymore being a trumper no longer says anything about trump….it says oceans about the trump humpers.

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Opinion: Trump took classified info docs home to cash in on them...period. (Original Post) Augiedog Aug 2022 OP
+1 Meadowoak Aug 2022 #1
Exactly. niyad Aug 2022 #2
trump monetizes everything he does...nt Wounded Bear Aug 2022 #3
Trump would have stolen material to sell, or use as blackmail, leverage or revenge. Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #4
His motivations always are, vengeance, vindication and of course money Walleye Aug 2022 #8
Yes. He is like a serial killer, once you see the crime scene you know what makes him tick. Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #33
Goldfungus... Harker Aug 2022 #29
Excellent job, this is Trump's theme song. Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #34
I heard Shirley Bassey in my head. Thanks! Harker Aug 2022 #37
I heard her too! Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #39
You're very kind. Harker Aug 2022 #42
You can sing too. Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #44
I'm no Shirley Bassey. Harker Aug 2022 #45
Sheer verve can go a long way. Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #46
Wise words. Harker Aug 2022 #48
Yes other names: Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #51
I don't see Trump hand delivering the documents to agingdem Aug 2022 #5
Such as Bedminster golf course Walleye Aug 2022 #6
I'm telling ya, look in Ivana's coffin for the really good stuff. OMGWTF Aug 2022 #26
Maybe some remote ground penetrating radar Walleye Aug 2022 #27
Secret docs were either hand carried by Trump's middlemen or transferred electronically. Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #35
I agree..he's a meglomanic.. agingdem Aug 2022 #38
That would also have made it much easier for FBI/CIA surveillance. Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #40
The DOJ, FBI, CIA, WHOEVER... NCDem47 Aug 2022 #7
"Novel investigative techniques" mentioned in the court filing. Could be a sting operation Walleye Aug 2022 #10
Oh my, I didn't read about the "novel" investigative techniques. What could this be? Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #41
Neal Katyal mentioned that phrase and it really caught my attention Walleye Aug 2022 #47
Oh for sure. Same here. Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #49
NC. Yep they are not going to nab Trump for paperwork problems or taking souvenirs. Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #43
The newest RW talking point is predictable jcgoldie Aug 2022 #9
Gangster? President? Why not have both? usonian Aug 2022 #11
Yep, no doubt in my mind. Scottie Mom Aug 2022 #12
Shitler has NO character -- that's the problem. OMGWTF Aug 2022 #28
TFG was selling off those presidential papers to the highest bidders LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2022 #13
I'm going with he took docs that implicated him in sleaze and corruption packman Aug 2022 #14
Probably a combination of "all of the above". rubbersole Aug 2022 #15
Yep. That's it. But with him, that's ALWAYS it. calimary Aug 2022 #16
Trump tries to monetize anything he can get his hands on. Our top secrets were no exception ashredux Aug 2022 #17
He'd monetize a fart if he could...anything goes. MiHale Aug 2022 #18
Completely agree! mountain grammy Aug 2022 #19
PERIOD! They were NOT his papers, NOTHING belonged to him. onecaliberal Aug 2022 #20
100% this, and explained so well. pandr32 Aug 2022 #21
He took them because he was told he couldn't Mr. Ected Aug 2022 #22
Yeah, but the media doesn't seem to get it. triron Aug 2022 #23
that would be completely ON BRAND for DJT and family. nt wiggs Aug 2022 #24
Say it and just keep saying it gratuitous Aug 2022 #25
The one thing the RW talkers don't have: An innocent explanation for why he took the documents. Midnight Writer Aug 2022 #30
He certainly didn't take them for reading material. GoodRaisin Aug 2022 #31
i don't believe ivana is buried at bedminster either. dawn5651 Aug 2022 #32
She was reportedly cremated. Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #36
Trump already cashed in. sarcasmo Aug 2022 #50
He is ALL the bad kids from Willie Wonka. MurrayDelph Aug 2022 #52
There is also a history of Congressional Oversight Committee investigations into this stuff... AntiFascist Aug 2022 #53

Irish_Dem

(47,124 posts)
4. Trump would have stolen material to sell, or use as blackmail, leverage or revenge.
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 10:26 AM
Aug 2022

Or to brag about.

Or docs he thinks incriminate him. Or exonerate him.

The list of possible items is obvious given his toxic narcissism and ruthless sociopathy.

He would love anything of prurient, tabloid type interest. He would love to brag to people along the lines of: "I know who killed JFK." "I know what really happened at Roswell."

He would love any documentation of wrong doing by elected or other high level officials. For bragging rights as well as leverage.

He would want any high ticket document, something our enemies would pay top dollar for.

Also of interest would be items to be used for leverage. "Hey I have top secret info I will release if you indict me."

And he certainly would have spent time collecting these documents rather than doing his actual job while POTUS.

Harker

(14,022 posts)
29. Goldfungus...
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 12:48 PM
Aug 2022

he's the man - the man with a lecher's touch

A rapist's touch

Such a cold fungus

Beckons you to pay for his gaudy life

And for his wife...

Vile babble he will pour in your ear

But his lies can't disguise that he's weird

For a normal woman knows when he's groped her

It's a courtroom dance with

Mr. Coldfungus


Harker

(14,022 posts)
37. I heard Shirley Bassey in my head. Thanks!
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 02:03 PM
Aug 2022

Now I'm picking up Tom Jones...

He always rides while others walk

He raves while other men just talk

They call him the loser who steals all

And he strikes - like blunderball.


I really should be reading a good book.

Harker

(14,022 posts)
42. You're very kind.
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 02:37 PM
Aug 2022

I can already see the look on my wife's face when I belt out "Goldfungus" later!

Irish_Dem

(47,124 posts)
46. Sheer verve can go a long way.
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 03:32 PM
Aug 2022

It is always interesting to see people with average talent hit the big time.
In the entertainment industry and in sports for example.
They do it on personalty and drive.

Harker

(14,022 posts)
48. Wise words.
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 04:01 PM
Aug 2022

A world comprised of nothing but stars would implode.

Your comments have brought Terry-Thomas to mind. Like so many others, he worked to create his own niche.

Irish_Dem

(47,124 posts)
51. Yes other names:
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 04:17 PM
Aug 2022

Christy Evert in tennis.
Madonna in entertainment.

Then you have the reverse situation, absolutely top talent who cannot grab the gold.
Michelle Kwan is said to be one of the greatest figure skaters of all time. Yet she could not get the
gold medal she deserved.

agingdem

(7,850 posts)
5. I don't see Trump hand delivering the documents to
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 10:26 AM
Aug 2022

his autocrat buddies, but I do see Trump dedicating a wing of his hotel to a private "presidential" library, stolen documents and artifacts on full display...and for a very hefty price of "admission" he would escort a select few ( visiting despots, foreign agents) through his masturbatory homage, allowing them the opportunity to peruse his cache at their leisure...

Irish_Dem

(47,124 posts)
35. Secret docs were either hand carried by Trump's middlemen or transferred electronically.
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 01:55 PM
Aug 2022

If the enemy paid a high enough price, they may want the originals for authentication.

I agree, it is quite possible enemy agents met him a MAL. That would make him happy.
Make him feel important.

Irish_Dem

(47,124 posts)
40. That would also have made it much easier for FBI/CIA surveillance.
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 02:34 PM
Aug 2022

Yes, I can see the enemy agents all coming to kiss Trump's behind, and get into a bidding war.

NCDem47

(2,249 posts)
7. The DOJ, FBI, CIA, WHOEVER...
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 10:30 AM
Aug 2022

Must prove at some point that he was trading info for something of value. That is the ONLY end game that will put a wood stake in this vampire. Without that, the weasel will always claim "it was a mistake of others" or he was keeping items as momentos ("Perfectly legal folks. Perfectly legal.&quot

Irish_Dem

(47,124 posts)
41. Oh my, I didn't read about the "novel" investigative techniques. What could this be?
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 02:36 PM
Aug 2022

We know what the routine investigative techniques are....

What could be "novel"???

Irish_Dem

(47,124 posts)
43. NC. Yep they are not going to nab Trump for paperwork problems or taking souvenirs.
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 02:38 PM
Aug 2022

It is going to have to be giving classified intel to enemies in exchange for cash or services.

jcgoldie

(11,631 posts)
9. The newest RW talking point is predictable
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 10:30 AM
Aug 2022

The excuses have taken a familiar turn.

First: He didn't do it!
Then: He did it but so what? Nothing is wrong with it!
Now: He did it but he's too stupid and dimwitted to have understood what it meant or planned anything nefarious...

Scottie Mom

(5,812 posts)
12. Yep, no doubt in my mind.
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 10:51 AM
Aug 2022

He's a dishonest piece of shit. Has been one all his life. Just because he made it to the WH, his character did not change. Everything is for his benefit. PERIOD. Be it ego, money, attention...whatever. He is number one on his list and there are no other causes, entries or people on that list.

OMGWTF

(3,957 posts)
28. Shitler has NO character -- that's the problem.
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 12:36 PM
Aug 2022

“It was miraculous. It was almost no trick at all, he saw, to turn vice into virtue and slander into truth, impotence into abstinence, arrogance into humility, plunder into philanthropy, thievery into honor, blasphemy into wisdom, brutality into patriotism, and sadism into justice. Anybody could do it; it required no brains at all. It merely required no character.”
― Joseph Heller, Catch-22

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
14. I'm going with he took docs that implicated him in sleaze and corruption
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 11:36 AM
Aug 2022

or to later sell for big bucks to his cult - the "perfect" letters, the magic-marker weather map, etc.

rubbersole

(6,696 posts)
15. Probably a combination of "all of the above".
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 11:45 AM
Aug 2022

This is going to be his legacy. Thieving piece of shit finally got out over his skis. Wait. Skis? OK, that won't work...

calimary

(81,304 posts)
16. Yep. That's it. But with him, that's ALWAYS it.
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 11:48 AM
Aug 2022

All he cares about is money and the ownership of it.

Schmuck.

onecaliberal

(32,862 posts)
20. PERIOD! They were NOT his papers, NOTHING belonged to him.
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 12:09 PM
Aug 2022

He's a fucking criminal. Stop accepting the excuses made for this cancerous piece of shit.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
22. He took them because he was told he couldn't
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 12:17 PM
Aug 2022

And nobody tells Donald Trump what he can and cannot do.

Obviously, everyone else is correct on his intended uses for the contraband, but a large part of the removal was his refusal to be denied anything that he wanted.

Ever the victim.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
25. Say it and just keep saying it
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 12:26 PM
Aug 2022

Let the former guy protest that he did nothing of the sort, and complain about it. Then say it again: He stole classified documents to sell to the highest bidder. More denials (or, more likely, non-denial denials)? Say it again. It will stick in people's minds sooner or later, and then the former guy can spend all his time battling the shadows and the shades, the rumors and the whispers.

And that would be a downright shame.

Midnight Writer

(21,768 posts)
30. The one thing the RW talkers don't have: An innocent explanation for why he took the documents.
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 12:49 PM
Aug 2022

They have binders full of excuses for him, but they can't explain why he would take this vast quantity of material except for greed.

GoodRaisin

(8,924 posts)
31. He certainly didn't take them for reading material.
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 12:57 PM
Aug 2022

Yeah, those top secret documents have likely been copied and sold a dozen times by now.

MurrayDelph

(5,299 posts)
52. He is ALL the bad kids from Willie Wonka.
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 05:11 PM
Aug 2022

Those boxes are him trying to sell Everlasting Gob-stoppers to Slugworth.

AntiFascist

(12,792 posts)
53. There is also a history of Congressional Oversight Committee investigations into this stuff...
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 05:17 PM
Aug 2022

and there is speculation that this FBI investigation may be just a result of that Committee's report.

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