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kentuck

(111,101 posts)
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 10:56 AM Aug 2022

I have fought my conscience whether to fight them or to ignore them?

Sometimes I think if we were able to simply ignore them, they would implode upon themselves. They need the attention from the liberals to survive and thrive.

But then, I think, we have to fight these dangerous ideas or they will take over our country. Usually, I choose to fight.

However, I still am not sure whether or not the best way to defeat them is to simply ignore them. Don't feed their hatred and negativity. They would turn upon themselves.

Has anyone else had similar thoughts?

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flying_wahini

(6,606 posts)
1. I think the best tactic is a calm and friendly persuasion with the TRUTH.
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 11:09 AM
Aug 2022

Opinions don’t work. They may act like they don’t listen but the truth will win out eventually.
Some old fashioned Republicans are watching and waiting to take back the GOP.
I try to remember that we need them to come around and be convinced to rebuild our Democracy.
We need stable parties to keep our country balanced.
I think that the GOP knows that a divided party (theirs) will not survive. I expect to see and hear more and more about MAGAs needing to wise up before the elections. The GOP is going to have to temper them or lose badly and this won’t happen yet. This will probably take a full election cycle of losing before they get it. Also I feel like the GOP needs a strong leader but they just voted her out!
Good for us now, I guess. Cheney will land on her feet.
Important (to them) that they feel patriotic while the truth sinks in. They are pretty thick so it’s gonna have to come from Faux News and others in the GOP. Not from us. The best we can do is support our party until these new Laws kick in. It WILL take some time.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
2. it's pointless to fight them, if by that you mean to try and reason with them
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 11:09 AM
Aug 2022

But it's not pointless to offer reasoned solutions to our mutual civil problems. There are still a lot of people, who not tuned into politics. For those people, it's not hopeless to make reasoned solutions. And there are also a lot of discouraged and disheartened people, who need a little encouragement to vote.

Eventually the kitchen table bread and butter issues are what motivate a whole lot of voters. Good jobs, good schools, safe streets, lower grocery and gas prices, decent health benefits, some leisure time with the family. this is what voters want.

pwb

(11,276 posts)
3. Pukes always over reach. They defeat themselves.
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 11:12 AM
Aug 2022

Woman will beat them down everywhere over Abortion rights. IMO. I just smile at pukes and act like I never heard of their anger topic. That pisses them off.

Sympthsical

(9,074 posts)
4. What does "fighting" them look like?
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 11:13 AM
Aug 2022

I'm always genuinely curious about this sentiment. "We're going to fight them!"

Ok, and what will this entail? Because posting into the cyber emptiness isn't activism.

Standing on a street corner with a sign for an hour once a year so one can take instagram pictures is ok, I guess?

So what is all this fighting people are doing? Is it offline? Is it more common than rare? Does it involve some personal sacrifice?

Is it even inconvenient?

The "Rawr!" part is easy and costs nothing. What's the field of battle and where will we be seeing this presence?

kentuck

(111,101 posts)
7. First of all, you have to decide whether or not you oppose them or if you agree with them.
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 11:19 AM
Aug 2022

If you oppose them, then how are you going to do that? Are you going to post into the "cyber emptiness" or are you going to go out and physically confront them?

It probably serves no purpose to talk about it or to try and raise consciousness, because we can assume that everyone knows everything already.

CrispyQ

(36,478 posts)
6. I've wondered the same, too, at times.
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 11:16 AM
Aug 2022

Years ago someone told me that people who crave attention will even accept negative attention over no attention & at first I thought, that can't be, but over time, I've come to agree. For sure it's true with Trump. I have some trumper family members who IMO, are addicted to anger & conflict. If you agree to not discuss politics, they will still bring it up.

LakeArenal

(28,820 posts)
8. Ha.... Every "rational truth" you might "suggest" turns into an argument.
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 11:23 AM
Aug 2022

So I don’t bother.

I will use my signage, T-shirts and votes.

Besides in small communities everyone knows your politics.

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