The Right-Wing is threatening violence because they believe Trump is guilty.

[kentuck]

It is an angry reaction.

They are not so angry that he stole the documents, only that he got caught stealing them. The aura of invincibility has been deeply tarnished.

They understand the seriousness of the crimes. They know the penalty for stealing state secrets that might threaten the lives of our young people in the military. They know that if those documents were found in the basement of Barack Obama's home, they would be calling for his execution.

So they react in anger. It is the liberal's fault. It is the FBI's fault. It is Merrick Garland's fault. It is the Judge's fault. But they know that the real fault is with themselves. They put their faith in a con-artist and a grifter and they are getting their just reward.

Now, they threaten violence against everyone else. They want to kill all the FBI. They want to destroy the government, which has been so good to them. They have been deeply hurt and disappointed. The person they worshiped may be guilty of espionage? He may be a traitor to his country. It is not an easy reality with which to come to grips.

They are shattered.

[PortTack]

1. Great analysis!

[musette_sf]

2. Shadoobie

Shattered
Shattered

But seriously, good analysis.

Also salient:
Rats on the East Side
Bedbugs uptown

[Sky Jewels]

24. Don't you know the Trump crime rate's goin'

up up up up UP?!

[Different Drummer]

29. Love your subject line!

[Prof. Toru Tanaka]

34. Love that song and

props for bringing it up!

Go 'head, bite the Big Apple- don't mind the magats!

[OldBaldy1701E]

3. Well, I always felt that it was just because they love violence. (n/t)

[Irish_Dem]

15. I think for sure there are some in this category.

They just want to kill people, and look for any group that will let them do that.

[Different Drummer]

30. A valid feeling, knowing the parties of whom we are speaking.

Paraphrasing Lily Tomlin's Ernestine character.

[WarGamer]

5. Disagree...

I think they're true believers and they think Trump is being persecuted by mean nasty Democrats who all need to be rounded up in 2025.

The Liz Cheney's and others like her are far and few between.

[kentuck]

7. I think they want people to think Trump is being persecuted.

But they can see the evidence as well as you. The documents were missing and they were found in Trump's basement at Mar-a-Lago. It's pretty incriminating evidence.

[WarGamer]

10. They think he had the right to take or declassify it all.

Seriously... the percentage of GOP'ers who follow the news close enough to know reality is tiny.

[Kingofalldems]

11. They're liars just like Trump.

Of course they know he is guilty.

[Tetrachloride]

37. I am in WarGamer's camp on this issue

i call it 80-20 percent for War Gamer.

[Nevilledog]

6. Wish they were fucking stunned into silence.

[H2O Man]

8. Recommended.

You nailed it. They wouldn't be angry if they thought he was innocent.

[dalton99a]

9. Yep.

[malaise]

12. They KNOW

He is guilty

[Irish_Dem]

13. Yes maybe they are being catapulted out of their cognitive dissonance comfort zone.

It is getting harder for them to ignore or negate information that conflicts with their beliefs about Trump.

The internal conflict gets bigger and they explode into violence.

They must destroy the sources of information that creates the discomfort.

They think if they can kill or bully people telling the truth into silence, they can get back to their comfort zone.

[kentuck]

16. Basically...

Yes.

[Irish_Dem]

21. Some of the original cognitive dissonance research was done on cult members, like the MAGAs.

When obvious and irrefutable information came into the cult which negated the cult leader and belief systems, some of the cult members left the cult.

However most of them stayed and doubled and tripled down. They also changed the narrative, the bad news was really good news, etc. But they became more vehement in their crazy belief system.

So I think it is likely that the truth coming out more and more about Trump is going to gradually peel off some MAGA cult members.

But there will be some who remain and will get more crazy, dangerous and violent.

This research was done by the famous psychologist Leon Festinger in the 1950s. He was the social psychologist who developed the theory of cognitive dissonance, one of the most important and well known psychological theories of the 20th century.

[kentuck]

23. Thanks for the info!

[Irish_Dem]

25. So you are correct, the incoming information is causing the cult to get more violent and melt down.

They are having a harder time holding the cult leader belief system and the incoming news.

[Mariana]

19. It won't last.

The "news" they listen to, the videos they watch, the blogs they read, the e-mails they receive, the friends they talk with, and the preachers whose services they attend will all reinforce their belief that Trump has never done anything wrong, and is being persecuted.

It is a religion. They see everyone who opposes, criticizes, or contradicts Trump as blasphemers and heretics.

[Irish_Dem]

22. Research shows that some cult members will leave a cult when events contradict the cult leader

and his belief system.

But most will stay and double down.

[IjustDontlikeRepugs]

14. I agree with you.

People hate to admit they are wrong or they have been bamboozled. Especially when they put so much confidence and argument into someone.

I’ll be the first to admit, I voted for bill Clinton twice… and I don’t doubt for a second that he got that BJ. Also, I don’t care.

[Lovie777]

17. Some RWers believe he is the Messiah . . ..

Messiah - guilty, they are chaos and truly and extremely craz craz.

[Mariana]

20. They've believed he was chosen by God to be President since 2016.

Some of them probably even earlier. This is nothing new.

[Irish_Dem]

26. He is more like God every time he commits more crimes and breaks more commandments.

Trump is the 21st century Charles Mason.

[uponit7771]

18. Unnnn, I talked to a few and they believe what FAUX NewZ is telling them; Its OK to take docs ...

... that belong to the united states.

They never heard of NARA and the fact the documents belong to the country and not Putin's Whore.

[Mr. Ected]

27. I think this comports with a meme I read the other day about these Trump right-wingers:

They know he's guilty. They just don't care.

Their intentions are not based on right vs. wrong. They are based on us vs. them. Anyone that stands in their way is "them", even if just yesterday they were one of "us".

This is the way a cult behaves. In this case, the cult has hitched their wagon to a bona fide fascist dictator wannabe. They're good with that...as long as we're not.

[calimary]

28. It's the getting caught that matters most.

And it's all about acting out, at this point.

LOTS of frustration out there among that bunch. It's just not working out the way they want it to. And their "golden calf" proves he can be more like tarnished brass. That aura of invincibility - he's still desperately trying to reinforce it, but seems to me there are just too many hurdles now placed before him that he still has to jump over. And you can't jump as well when you're hobbled by as many complications as he has, now.

[Harker]

31. They're violent, hateful, and ugly...

and any pretext will do.

[MissMillie]

32. I'd say that this is true about 25% of the RWers

I really do believe that the other 75% are clueless and misinformed, or worse (brainwashed--as in a cult).

[rockfordfile]

33. Then they will end up with timothy McVeigh

[Evolve Dammit]

35. They have been threatening violence since Obama was elected, and arming up since 2008.

[Wounded Bear]

36. They threaten violence because they know they can't win by persuasion...

which is how democracies are supposed to work.

When one side resorts to violence, democracy is dead, or at least dying.

[Volaris]

38. 'They are shattered.'

GOOD. I want them to hurt. I want them to be socially ostracized. I WANT their political suffering.

Because they've EARNED IT, the un-reconstructed assholes.

[progressoid]

39. Sorry, no.

Well, yes, maybe this is true for some.

If you listen to RW radio or read RW websites, they are all over the board with excuses and explanations.

One thing is for certain, they aren't a cohesive group anymore.