Everytime I hear about new types of equipment the U.S. will be providing Ukraine -

[speak easy]

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142958844

I am asking, why didn't Ukraine get this months ago. Where are the MIM-104 batteries outside Kyiv, Kharkiv, Dnipro and Odesa, protecting Ukrainian civilians against Russian terrorist attacks?

[uponit7771]

1. Ukraine had their own stash of weapons and no one game planned recent tech efficacy or even ...

... it being deployed and used.

No one was ready for Putrid's level of stupidity and that's the whole bottom line

[haele]

2. Beta testing.

Got to get enough out to get a good statistical analysis. It takes time to manufacture and send out.

Haele

[OnDoutside]

3. And training needs to be factored in too. Since April or so, the

Ukrainians have always talked about August being the month where things would start to turn in their favour, and it seems that is the case.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

4. Yes, training. These are not point-and-shoot cameras!

[MissMillie]

5. I usually have a different reaction

Now, don't get me wrong: I'm glad we're providing them w/ weapons, equipment and money.


But for DECADES now, we haven't been investing in our own country because we "can't afford it."

Seems there's always money for war. Eisenhower nailed it.

[uponit7771]

6. +1,

[speak easy]

8. + Eisenhower nailed it.

yes he did

[electric_blue68]

10. Do you think we shouldn't be helping Ukraine?

I've known for decades that the Military budget is bloated... but still

[MissMillie]

11. I guess you didn't read the first sentence of my post. (n/t)

.

[electric_blue68]

12. Oooops, I guess I'm more tired than I think, or a bit distracted. Apologies!

[MissMillie]

13. not a problem

I'm pretty tired myself.

[electric_blue68]

14. 👍

[OnDoutside]

16. Of course you are correct, however if ever there was a just reason

for the US to support another country, for the first time since WW2 or Korea, it's supporting Ukraine. Perhaps Kosovo too.

Having a country willing/wanting to do the fighting against your old adversary (and doing a fantastic job too) without your own soldiers returning in body bags, is an opportunity that can't be passed up. Even better that it may end up doing severe damage to Russia's military capabilities while potentially mortally wounding Putin's dictatorship.

[Kaleva]

17. Would we be investing in our country even if the military budget was slashed?

[sir pball]

7. I get it, but there's a lot that budget and/or security concerns preclude.

Should Ukraine get M1A2 Abrams tanks? Should they get F-22s? Should we give them a Seawolf sub or a Nimitz carrier?

I'm totally on board with giving them a metric fuckton of good weaponry, but there are some limits.

[Sewa]

9. Because the NATO nations thought Ukraine

Would fall within weeks of invasion. I think that the Afghan collapse might have played into their thinking. 💀🤙

[rockfordfile]

15. They didn't ask.

Ukraine should've prepared better. Now we're here. Can't look back at that. The fight is on now.