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(86,824 posts)Russian opposition group already claim responsibility?
BeyondGeography
(39,385 posts)Renew Deal
(81,882 posts)He was saying that some group did it.
BeyondGeography
(39,385 posts)Tetrachloride
(7,877 posts)so far, just the one man.
its either true. Or its not. No verifiable evidence so far.
BootinUp
(47,200 posts)Even though I can think of no reason anyone should.
Eugene
(61,964 posts)the propagandists say.
Russians outraged after Moscow car bombing kills daughter of 'Putin's brain': Aug. 21 recap (USA Today)
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/ukraine/2022/08/21/ukraine-russia-invasion-live-updates/7857447001/
NCjack
(10,279 posts)BeyondGeography
(39,385 posts)They want to know why Kyiv is still standing.
BeyondGeography
(39,385 posts)BootinUp
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Now that the FSB is claiming #Dugina was killed by a Ukrainian who fled to Estonia, it is interesting to note how often the Kremlin seems not to appreciate the dangers in trying to explain reverses away by, frankly, incompetence. A short thread 1/
Consider the supply depots blowing up because, allegedly, of an incautious cigarette. OK, I get the desire to deny that Ukraine can accurately and effectively target these hubs, but it means embracing a notion that incompetents set them up and other incompetents manned them 2/
Now, we have the claim that a Ukrainian with a 12-year-old in tow carried out the attack, trailing Dugina in a mini with multiple number plates, then insouciantly headed for the Estonian border and passed through without any hitch 3/
Who knows, maybe it's true, but it also would suggest a pretty major failure on the past of the MVD/FSB. I think this is a major Kremlin blind spot, to fail to appreciate how its evolving narrative is actually painting it as incompetent (as it often is, it has to be said) 4/
This is, after all, central to the nationalist critique of Putin's - that for all his macho managerialism, be is actually a poor champion of Russian interests, irresolute, corrupt and incompetent. How many less rabid types may also be feeling this, as they wonder... 5/
...If they might be next to be targeted? Fear can be a useful tool of the state - but not if people don't think the state can also offer security. Sure, blaming Kyiv is easy and we'll no doubt see some retaliation on Wednesday (Ukraine's Independence Day), but in the long term 6/
I suspect this will be more corrosive for the Kremlin's myth of competence and narrative of victory. 7/end
BeyondGeography
(39,385 posts)On top of that, said agent had supposedly rented an apartment in Duginas building. Not exactly another FSB point of honor.
Kid Berwyn
(14,989 posts)They thought they were getting the dad expendable, yet nationwide in impact.
Lovie777
(12,346 posts)anywho Russia will blame Ukraine and any other Country it feels threaten by. Putin wants the USSR back in tact any means necessary. Fortunately, the "partisans" in Russia is becoming a force.