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Russia says Ukraine whacked Rasputin's daughter (Original Post) BeyondGeography Aug 2022 OP
Didn't some... 2naSalit Aug 2022 #1
Yes BeyondGeography Aug 2022 #2
I don't believe that he was taking responsibility. Renew Deal Aug 2022 #12
Thanks for that BeyondGeography Aug 2022 #14
Unverified. Tetrachloride Aug 2022 #3
And I guess a significant number will believe it. BootinUp Aug 2022 #4
"Kiev will shudder" Eugene Aug 2022 #6
False flag op. I think Putin ordered the hit. NCjack Aug 2022 #5
He has been getting a lot of criticism from the right BeyondGeography Aug 2022 #7
A suspect has been named, and they're dragging Estonia into it BeyondGeography Aug 2022 #8
Good thread on the subject BootinUp Aug 2022 #9
Good points BeyondGeography Aug 2022 #10
Plutocrats sending Pootie Poot a message. Kid Berwyn Aug 2022 #11
NRA, the Russian version is claiming the bombing..... Lovie777 Aug 2022 #13

Eugene

(61,964 posts)
6. "Kiev will shudder"
Mon Aug 22, 2022, 08:59 AM
Aug 2022

the propagandists say.

Russians outraged after Moscow car bombing kills daughter of 'Putin's brain': Aug. 21 recap (USA Today)

"Kyiv will shudder" said a headline on Russia's Tsargrad.tv website, while state-run RT editor Margarita Simonyan retweeted a call to bomb the Ukrainian intelligence agency headquarters in Kyiv.


https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/ukraine/2022/08/21/ukraine-russia-invasion-live-updates/7857447001/

BootinUp

(47,200 posts)
9. Good thread on the subject
Mon Aug 22, 2022, 09:20 AM
Aug 2022
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1561692579279822849.html


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Now that the FSB is claiming #Dugina was killed by a Ukrainian who fled to Estonia, it is interesting to note how often the Kremlin seems not to appreciate the dangers in trying to explain reverses away by, frankly, incompetence. A short thread 1/
Consider the supply depots blowing up because, allegedly, of an incautious cigarette. OK, I get the desire to deny that Ukraine can accurately and effectively target these hubs, but it means embracing a notion that incompetents set them up and other incompetents manned them 2/
Now, we have the claim that a Ukrainian with a 12-year-old in tow carried out the attack, trailing Dugina in a mini with multiple number plates, then insouciantly headed for the Estonian border and passed through without any hitch 3/
Who knows, maybe it's true, but it also would suggest a pretty major failure on the past of the MVD/FSB. I think this is a major Kremlin blind spot, to fail to appreciate how its evolving narrative is actually painting it as incompetent (as it often is, it has to be said) 4/
This is, after all, central to the nationalist critique of Putin's - that for all his macho managerialism, be is actually a poor champion of Russian interests, irresolute, corrupt and incompetent. How many less rabid types may also be feeling this, as they wonder... 5/
...If they might be next to be targeted? Fear can be a useful tool of the state - but not if people don't think the state can also offer security. Sure, blaming Kyiv is easy and we'll no doubt see some retaliation on Wednesday (Ukraine's Independence Day), but in the long term 6/
I suspect this will be more corrosive for the Kremlin's myth of competence and narrative of victory. 7/end

BeyondGeography

(39,385 posts)
10. Good points
Mon Aug 22, 2022, 09:25 AM
Aug 2022

On top of that, said “agent” had supposedly rented an apartment in Dugina’s building. Not exactly another FSB point of honor.

Kid Berwyn

(14,989 posts)
11. Plutocrats sending Pootie Poot a message.
Mon Aug 22, 2022, 09:30 AM
Aug 2022

They thought they were getting the dad — expendable, yet nationwide in impact.

Lovie777

(12,346 posts)
13. NRA, the Russian version is claiming the bombing.....
Mon Aug 22, 2022, 09:42 AM
Aug 2022

anywho Russia will blame Ukraine and any other Country it feels threaten by. Putin wants the USSR back in tact any means necessary. Fortunately, the "partisans" in Russia is becoming a force.

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