The Democratic People's Republic of California

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The Democratic People's Republic of California

aka ATTN MAGA folks eat shit and die. love Cali

California Governor General Poll:
Gavin Newsom (D-inc): 52% (+27)
Brian Dahle (R): 25% Undecided 23%
Berkeley IGS / 9,254 RV / 08/09-15 https://latimes.com/california/sto

[Lovie777]

1. Here I was trying to figure out the title ....

then I continued to read -

[Botany]

2. If we can get more Ds into the House & Senate this fall and President Joe B. can get more of his ...

.... agenda passed that will help everybody then we might flip a lot of red areas and states across the country.

Oklahoma, Utah, Tennessee, Kentucky, Arkansas, Wyoming, West Virginia, and a few other states
might be out of reach.

4 things need to get done:
1) Get rid of the electoral college
2) Go back to paper ballots and mechanical voting machines
3) Elections should be 6 months soup to nuts
4) Get the dark money out of politics

[Celerity]

7. 'Get rid of the electoral college' requires a Constitutional amendment, which is not going to happen

Also, the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact is very likely a no go for multiple reasons, unfortunately.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Popular_Vote_Interstate_Compact

The National Popular Vote Interstate Compact (NPVIC) is an agreement among a group of U.S. states and the District of Columbia to award all their electoral votes to whichever presidential candidate wins the overall popular vote in the 50 states and the District of Columbia. The compact is designed to ensure that the candidate who receives the most votes nationwide is elected president, and it would come into effect only when it would guarantee that outcome. As of June 2022, it has been adopted by fifteen states and the District of Columbia. These states have 195 electoral votes, which is 36% of the Electoral College and 72% of the 270 votes needed to give the compact legal force.

Certain legal questions may affect implementation of the compact. Some legal observers believe that the compact will require explicit congressional consent under the Compact Clause of Article I, Section X of the U.S. Constitution, or that states have the plenary power to appoint presidential electors as prescribed by the compact under the Elections Clause of Article II, Section I. Other legal observers disagree that the power of states is broad enough to appoint their electors in accordance with the compact, and that the Electoral College cannot be altered to appoint presidential electors in accordance with the national popular vote except by a constitutional amendment.

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8. It is just my hope for now.

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But somehow America needs to get rid of the E.C. it is not Constitutional because it makes
somebody's vote in Pig's Breath, Iowa worth more than somebody in Portland, Oregon and
we don't have any more slave owners to placate anymore which was one of the reasons behind
the E.C..

[Celerity]

13. 'it is not Constitutional' ....... it literally IS in the Constitution

It is one one of the long wave (oe over the sweep of centuries) ticking Constitutional time bombs (along with, for example, the very nature of the Senate, which now gives close to 70% of the seats to only around 30% or so of the population, a 30% that is far whiter, poorer, more insular, more fundie christofash, less educated AND more hostile to education itself, more racist, sexist, homophobic, more violent reactionary RW than the other 70%. all of whom are stuck with only around 30% of the Senate) that may well end up ripping the union of the States apart.

[Botany]

14. In the summer of 2021 I spent some time around Woodstock, VA and the Christo-Fascism there ....

... and in much of rural PA, OH, WV, and MD was scary. In the area of VA (beautiful) I was in
lawns, barns, parked semi trailers, and bill boards were all decked out in white Christian flags,
confederate battle flags, American flags, and one barn had Trump and Jesus with their arms
around each and a setting sun/American flag/screaming eagle in the background.

We need to win big in '22 and hopefully some of Joe B. and the Dem's plans get enacted which
helps people and it might loosens the grip over some of "those people" but some of them are
so far gone that death alone will stop their heads from cooking up their toxic stew.

[Celerity]

15. +10000

[ColinC]

10. The interstate pact will be good enough.

You don't need to get rid of it in order to make it ineffective. We just need to win enough state governments this year, and it could happen.

[Celerity]

12. I doubt it will withstand Constitutional scrutiny, especially with this SCOTUS, and there

is basically no chance to take over enough state trifectas (governorships plus both chambers, plus beyond that, have control of those states' supreme courts to guarantee it won't be struck down there) in enough states who have not ratified it already to get it to 270. The numbers just are not there, no matter how much we do not like that they are are not.

If people think kinetic widespread violence will never happen, just imagine multiple (hell, even a single state) states voting majority (popular vote) for a Rethug candidate (it will always be the Rethug as the vast majority of compact members will be Blue states, which is why you will never get big Red states to sign on) and yet their states EV's all go to the Dem. Even worse, say their Rethug candidate loses only because of the Compact. The country will rapidly descend into a nebulous, scattered, viscous bloodbath at multivariate levels.

[ColinC]

17. Numbers seem to change substantially after major elections

We can't really come to any conclusions of what can be done next term until after the election has been decided.

What we can say though, is that we are just a few states away from the 270 votes needed. We have also been chipping away at the courts that will be deciding any challenge. To say it can't be done is untrue. But that is not to say it won't be very challenging.

[mopinko]

3. the hood i live in is known as the people's republic of rogers park. hyde park,

on the south side, also a lakefront hood, is known as our sister republic.
i love where i live. and it's not an accident i landed here.

[Hugh_Lebowski]

6. you must be a fan of this one

[mopinko]

16. absolutely.

it breaks my heart. he fell back into drugs here.

[3Hotdogs]

4. I hope he's our next president.

[BigmanPigman]

5. The Dems' victories are about the only thing

that keeps me going lately. I am THRILLED!!! Hopefully I'll be able to sleep sometime in the next 2 years. I'm serious.

[NBachers]

9. Just like Kamala- Voted for 'em here in San Francisco; voted for 'em in the State of California.

[Upthevibe]

11. Kick. N/T