Trump: Textbook narcissists have patterns, including how in the end they destroy themselves.

[fightforfreedom]

I recently compared Trump to the BTK killer. They had different goals but they have the same narcissist patterns.

Like Trump, BTK was a textbook narcissist who got away with everything for decades. He was devious and cunning. He was very smart in some ways and dumb as hell in other ways. He thought he was smarter than everyone. Over time he became more and more emboldened. In the end he entrapped himself with his own narcissism.

Everyday more information is coming out about the secret document investigation. It looks like Trump was involved in the entire process of stealing, concealing, the documents. It is being reported the DOJ, FBI, the archives contacted Trump and his lawyers multiple times warning them. It looks like Trump knew there was an investigation taking place.

It is reasonable to assume some of Trump lawyers warned him if he did not give back the document he could face serious charges.

Trump spit in everybody's face. He refused, because I believe his narcissism caught up to him. He believed he had a right to the documents and he was not going to give them back period. He believed the DOJ could not do a dam thing about. Like a true textbook narcissist he believed he could do anything he wanted and not pay a price.

I was upset the DOJ did not move more quickly to get a warrant and secure the documents. However, the bottom line is the DOJ found the documents Trump was hiding. They have him by the balls. He has no defense. It looks like Trumps narcissism has grown and is now clouding his judgement to the point of self destruction.

It would make a lot of sense if Trump is finally brought down by his own narcissism.

[gab13by13]

1. I like the new fff but,

I keep telling you that evidence is not the problem. There is more than enough evidence, today, to indict Donald Trump for theft of government property. I picked an easy crime just to make my point.

Trump could have been convicted for being "individual one," or 8 obstruction of justice crimes that Mueller laid out.

I will leave it at that.

[Farmer-Rick]

12. Yeah, Trump is being protected by the filthy rich

He's a white male so in this society he gets a bunch of privilege along with his wealth privilege. This is a guy who has valets, actually 2 of them, to pull up his pants.

So, he's gotten away with most everything. If he was a woman, a person of color or middle class, he would probably been in jail by now.

But now that Putin picked him as our President, thanks to the dancing supremes Citizen United ruling and American oligarchs. We are never going to to see him in jail.

Putin has all the wealth of Russia to do with as he wants. He is the richest man in the world. In America, capitalism rules everything. Wealth talks, even wealth from a sworn enemy. This is why Trump will never go to jail for anything. His buddy Putin and our American oligarchs are protecting him.

[Upthevibe]

16. Farmer-Rick ....I don't see where Putin is the richest man in the world....

https://www.gobankingrates.com/net-worth/business-people/richest-people-in-the-world/#:~:text=Jeff%20Bezos&text=Bezos%20is%20credited%20for%20pioneering,traditional%20If

I don't know if you were using it (in your response) literally or not.

[Farmer-Rick]

18. Because no one ever counts the vast wealth of Russia

As belonging to Putin. But who else controls the almost $170 billion wealth fund of Russia? And who controls the over $200 billion annual revenues that Russia forces on it's people through taxes?

If Putin proposed spending tax dollars on his Palace, which he has, no one will stop him. If he gives his many, many, many wives and Mistresses huge government allowances no one stops him.

He own Russia. The wealth of Russia is his to use and abuse. No one person equals that wealth.

[Irish_Dem]

29. Yep, there is more than enough evidence to convict him of any number of crimes.

Evidence, witnesses, some of the crimes are on video tape!

The problem is there is no will, no one wants to touch him, everyone is afraid of him, he is protected by the elite.

[no_hypocrisy]

2. My father was like that, the smartest guy in the room.

Second-guessed his doctors, his lawyers, his family. And he was wrong. Terribly wrong.

He was always right.

[allegorical oracle]

7. Genetic trait of drumpsters -- always smarter than parents, teachers, bosses, co-workers. nt

[no_hypocrisy]

8. My father was unbearable -- and yes, it led to his demise, literally

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He was driving at 92, and not very well. (As in "The Great Gatsby", Jordan Baker quipped "It takes two to make an accident." Let the somebody else be careful.) He rear-ended a van at the gas pumps. His car was old with no working seat belts and no airbags. His chest hit the steering column. Though going 5+ mph, it was fatal b/c he refused an ambulance and medical attention. And told nobody about the accident. For one week, he had an undiagnosed, untreated partial dissection of the aorta, meaning he bled into his chest until he had a massive heart attack and died.

Because he was smarter than everyone else.

[PJMcK]

9. That's a sad story

Your father's death was avoidable. If he had listened to professionals, he might have survived.

Your loss is sad but his life must have made yours difficult.

Peace.

[UpInArms]

10. Oof

(((((hugs)))))

So glad you are who you are

[Lovie777]

3. I want shithole, GQP, RWers, KKK, Nazis, comrades . ........

and the Republican party to destroy themselves, but alas, like any group of so called "Christians" (which they are not) will try to do is take us with them. These hateful insane motherf****** will destroy the earth in order to keep power and greed.

[Eyeball_Kid]

17. More puzzling than anything--

WHO doesn't understand this yet?

[Irish_Dem]

30. Yes, the GOP, Putin, etc. will burn down the entire planet to gain wealth and power.

They would kill is all in our beds as we sleep, without blinking an eye.

[multigraincracker]

4. A classic example from the film

A Face in the Crowd.

Someone left the mic on.

[3Hotdogs]

5. Problem is, Trump has made that "broadcast," time and time again.

But the audience reaction is different.

"Those morons out there..." still worship him.

[multigraincracker]

6. Until the girl gets him good.

I'm waiting for her.

[Historic NY]

15. The morons that never ever could grace his palacious estates and golf courses.

He would never sit down with them, he keeps his guarded distance less the unwashed touch him. He baffles them with babble and they just think that's swell.

[TheRickles]

11. I had to look up BTK:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Rader

[Pinback]

19. Me too. Horrendous.

“…has a grandiose sense of self, a belief that he is ‘special’ and therefore entitled to special treatment; a pathological need for attention and admiration; a preoccupation with maintaining rigid order and structure; and a complete lack of empathy.”

Pretty close, except Trump employs a mixture of “rigid order and structure” and chaos.

[live love laugh]

28. "member of Christ Lutheran Church in Wichita ... president of the church council."

Just goes to demonstrate about “religious” people.

[Evolve Dammit]

13. He better hurry the hell up destroying himself. If docs were released we may be the ones destroyed.

[Nasruddin]

20. What is the fundamental motive?

It looks like Trump was involved in the entire process of stealing, concealing, the documents.

I get - agree - that the narcissism and other personality disorders are a big part of Trump's behavior pattern here, but I just don't understand the motivation. Maybe "understanding the motivation" is what needs to be accomplished before any prosecution can take place.

Why was he gathering up so much stuff? And apparently personally managing it

Does he have another kind of personality disorder, some kind of hoarding problem? Haven't heard that before.

Is it for sale? Why? This isn't the 19th century - who needs original documents. If selling it off is in play, cameras would have taken care of it long ago.
Or was he running his own SCIF for hire? Doesn't seem so, so far.

Is it incriminating? Then why keep it - why didn't he get rid of it?

Does he think it's stuff that belongs to him? Then why so much, & then stashed in storage closets. Would make you wonder if someone has inventoried the White House furniture and cutlery.

Is it a time bomb he armed himself to get back in the news cycle? Seems like that tactically but strategically, risky - why couldn't this have been over and done in Mar 2021? If it is true then what other mines has he set? Perhaps there is something here about doing something deliberately provocative.

Something else?

[RainCaster]

21. Who cares about the motive? The MF has caused severe damage to our intelligence community

[Nasruddin]

23. Not clear

1 - You probably need a motive to prosecute - maybe any ordinary person, no, but in his case, you've got to convince a jury that he committed a crime (rather than committed a stupid act, which would be just as Trumpian)

2 - You don't know that it damaged the intelligence community. And we probably really don't want that debate in the court of public opinion anyway (or a jury trial for that matter)

[malaise]

22. Way too much deference is paid to this criminal

Lock him Up!

[fightforfreedom]

24. It is time and Garland knows that.

Trump is not only a serial criminal, he is the largest national security risk in the country. He has to be removed from society.

[ananda]

25. I used to play bridge with one.

Everything was all about her, and still is, for that matter.

Even though we don't play bridge any more, whenever
I see her, and I say a friendly hello, she always goes
off into her latest nonstop bragging about something.

She has no on off button, and it's always all about her.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

26. From the Hoarse Whisperer

The HoarseWhisperer on TFG's narcissism

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[allegorical oracle]

27. Imagine djt growing up poor, but with his narcissistic mental issues. It's possible he could've

become dangerous. Some might say he did become dangerous.

But he was born wealthy, with parents who compensated for (hid?) his offenses. The very idea that he could become the POTUS is seriously disturbing. He wasn't born that way. He was made -- trained -- to be the way he is. That's why he believes he can talk or pay his way out of anything.

Some time, somebody, someplace, must make him face consequences.

[Blue Owl]

31. K&R