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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBill Barr's Weasel Words
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/03/mueller-report-barr-summary-obstruction-conspiracy-close-reading.htmlSpecial counsel Robert Mueller has submitted his report on the Russia investigation, and Republicans are gloating. They claim a four-page letter from Attorney General William Barr, purporting to summarize the report, exonerates President Donald Trump. Theyre wrong. The letter says the Justice Department wont prosecute Trump, but it reaches that conclusion by tailoring legal standards to protect the president. Heres a list of Barrs weasel words and what theyre hiding.
The Russian government. The letter quotes a sentence from Muellers report. In that sentence, Mueller says his investigation didnt prove that members of the Trump campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities. The sentence specifies Russias government. It says nothing about coordination with other Russians. Trumps campaign chairman, Paul Manafort, gave campaign polling data to Konstantin Kilimnik, a Russian associate who has been linked to Russian intelligence. Manafort, Donald Trump Jr., and Jared Kushner met secretly in Trump Tower with Natalia Veselnitskaya, a Kremlin-connected lawyer. But neither Kilimnik nor Veselnitskaya is part of the Russian government. They seem to be excluded from Barrs analysis.
In its election interference activities. This phrase is included in the same excerpt.
It reflects the structure of the investigation. Mueller started with a counterintelligence probe of two specific Russian government operations: the production of online propaganda to influence the 2016 U.S. election, and the hacking of the Democratic National Committee and Hillary Clintons campaign. These are the two operations Mueller targeted in his indictments of Russians last year. If Barrs letter is accurate, Mueller seems to have decided to confine his examination of American complicity to those two operations. In fact, Barrs letter specifically cites those operations as the contexts in which Mueller didnt find conspiracy or coordination. Other contacts between Trump associates and Russians, such as Trumps Moscow tower project and Michael Flynns secret talks about easing sanctions, have been set aside.
Agreementtacit or express. A footnote in Barrs letter says the special counsel defined coordination as agreementtacit or expressbetween the Trump Campaign and the Russian government on election interference. The letter doesnt clarify whether this definition originally came from Mueller or from the Justice Department. This, too, limits the range of prosecutable collusion. We know, for example, that in June 2016, Donald Trump Jr. was told in an email that the Crown prosecutor of Russia had offered to provide the Trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and would be very useful to your father. The email said the offer was part of Russia and its governments support for Mr. Trump. Trump Jr. wrote back: If its what you say I love it. Apparently, by the standards asserted in the letter, this doesnt count as even tacit agreement on election interference.
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Bill Barr's Weasel Words (Original Post)
Nevilledog
Aug 2022
OP
Faux pas
(14,687 posts)1. Kickin'
for when I'm not toasted
Not toasted yet today.
Meadowoak
(5,556 posts)3. Now, I believe it's time to release the full unredacted Mueller report.
LetMyPeopleVote
(145,481 posts)4. I read the memo and it is poorly written and is wrong on the law
You do NOT need to be guilty of the underlying crime to b prosecuted for obstruction. I agree with Andrew Weisman
Link to tweet
Nevilledog
(51,170 posts)5. Everybody charged with obstruction will cite this OLC memo