Florida deputy has resigned after pulling a gun on a Black pregnant woman during a traffic stop

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2:02 PM · Aug 24, 2022

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/florida-deputy-resigns-pulling-gun-pregnant-black-mother-traffic-stop-rcna44455

A white Florida sheriff’s deputy has resigned after he pulled a gun on a pregnant Black woman during a traffic stop as her three distressed children watched on and recorded the tense interaction.

The incident happened Aug. 12 just before midnight when Bradford County Sheriff’s Deputy Jacob Desue tried to pull over Ebony Washington, of Jacksonville, the sheriff's office said.

Washington was speeding at 75 mph in a 55-mph zone as she drove north on State Road 200, the sheriff's office said, and when Desue indicated that she should pull over, she didn't stop her vehicle. She put on her hazard lights, slowed and drove until she pulled into a gas station in front of a convenience store.

Desue followed her with his siren and emergency lights on and ordered her to stop. At one point, Desue said over the patrol vehicle’s PA system, “Pull the vehicle over or I will put you into the ground!” the sheriff's office said.

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[MarineCombatEngineer]

1. When are these cops going to get it through that thick skulls

that they are more than likely on video while in public?

[Irish_Dem]

5. What this cop did was disgraceful, and he didn't care if people saw it or not.

Apparently they believe there will be no consequences for their behavior.

They don't care if there are witnesses and videotape.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

17. I agree.

luckily, more and more cops are being held to account because of the proliferation of camera phones, lots and lots of videos on YouTube about cops getting charged and convicted for excessive use of force and actually doing prison time, the most famous one, so far, is the George Floyd murder by Derek Chavin.

[Irish_Dem]

20. I agree. Really remarkable that camera phones are going to change the world.

No one would have anticipated that consequence for societal good.

I hope this bad cop never gets hired anywhere again where he has control over women.

[LakeArenal]

7. Their John Wayne attitude assures their arrogance.

They think they are “Real” men.

[Irish_Dem]

12. Yes his language and control issues show his arrogance and immaturity.

[uponit7771]

16. +1, another LEO with no ties to the community cares less about how he acts

[DENVERPOPS]

42. So many

have the attitude that they are THE final authority on anything and everything because they are "THE LAW".......

In Aurora Co. the police and paramedics EUTHANIZED, (as in murdered) a black kid just walking down the street.......

I think the City of Aurora is gonna pay out tens of millions on that lawsuit, as well as a bunch of other police brutality lawsuits, and yet, the City won't do anything about their police departments behavior.

The criminal courts weren't quite as lenient towards two of their PD and the two Aurora Paramedics for the outright murder of the young man. They have all been charged with some level of homocide, and several already imprisoned.....

Think of all the cases like this that happen and are not recorded that happen across the nation every day......

[MarineCombatEngineer]

43. Hey there DENVERPOPS, how the hell are ya?

I love the fact that your state has pretty much neutered the qualified immunity law,

https://www.themarshallproject.org/2020/12/18/colorado-tries-new-way-to-punish-rogue-cops

Colorado Tries New Way To Punish Rogue Cops
Individual officers can’t claim ‘qualified immunity’ in excessive force cases, but may not end up paying damages out of their own pockets.

Colorado passed the final version of these sweeping changes in June, including one drawing national attention: Now police officers who violate people’s civil rights can be held personally responsible in state court.

And they can’t use the defense that experts say has stymied many efforts to hold police to account: “qualified immunity.” It’s a legal doctrine that says government workers can’t be held liable for what they do on the job, except in rare circumstances.

This needs to be done in every state and on a federal level but it needs to be beefed up to make sure the payment came out of the offending officer's pocket.

[DENVERPOPS]

68. hey there MCE

I'm just in granny gear and chugging..........

The cities should not be paying out on these astronomical lawsuits..........Instead they should be spending the millions in cleaning up the police depts they are enabling by back handedly condoning their officers behavior.

There are some great officers out there, they should staff with recruits just like them.
It's the old adage: A few bad apples spoil the whole barrel.......

Hang in there & stay well!!!!!!

[MarineCombatEngineer]

69. +100. nt

[LiberalFighter]

49. Have to wonder what they are told in their training classes.

[samsingh]

53. when are we going to have 0 tolerance for these imbecile cops? they need to

be in jail

[MarineCombatEngineer]

61. It's happening, slowly, but it is happening,

youtube has videos of cops being sentenced to jail/prison for violation of civil rights and the victims getting payouts from the towns/cities/states, but far too many get away with it........for now.

[LakeArenal]

2. I have a nephew who is a police office.

Still… it’s so hard to respect cops. Really hard.

[duhneece]

3. I really do feel disturbed..enraged at this mf

Glad he resigned but who will hire him next?

[LiberalFighter]

50. Which is why I think there should be a national database identifying all law officers.

With any disciplinary action taken against them taken against them including being fired.

And all federal grants and other aid to law enforcement agencies be based on issues with officers.

[duhneece]

62. I agree with you totally

Just like ALL crimes & shootings by ALL people should be reported with the same funding constraints you mention.

[Biophilic]

4. Funny that was exactly what I was taught to do in driver's ed a the late 50s.

It was deemed not safe for a single woman to allow anyone to stop them if it was dark or no other people around. We were told to drive slowly to a well lighted place, hopefully with people around.

[Aristus]

6. Yeah. She did absolutely the right thing, and the asshole pulled his heat anyway.

If she hadn't pulled into the convenience store, she'd be dead right now.

[Irish_Dem]

22. And the cop would lie and say she resisted arrest, etc.

He would have gotten away with it.

[forgotmylogin]

44. I was taught slowing down and putting on your hazard lights is the correct thing to do...

If you're not in a good place to pull off the road. It's supposed to signal to the police you are complying but just moving to a better area to stop.

[Irish_Dem]

57. Yes she was following the instructions most women have been given.

The hazard lights are telling the officer, we see you, we are complying, but there is not a safe spot to park.

We are continuing to move slowly until we can stop the vehicle safely.

When this woman tries to explain what she was doing and why, the cop is furious and is verbally abusive
and starts waving his gun around. Looks like he put her in handcuffs, right in front of her young children.

[Irish_Dem]

8. Yes I recall this too. If you are a woman by yourself, drive to a public place with good lighting.

This woman stated her husband told her to do so, which is excellent advice.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

18. Especially being a woman of color,

definitely want to get to a well lit place if being pulled over by a cop.

[Irish_Dem]

21. If he did this in public, what would he do in a dark isolated place?

We can imagine unfortunately.

She did the right thing and it is worth pissing off the cops to get into a public place with witnesses.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

23. Exactly right. nt

[uponit7771]

11. +1, ... but in red states the melanated have different rules

[Wounded Bear]

14. Indeed! And, since she had the double whammy of driving while black and female...

a bit of descretion on her part is sensible. LEO's need to learn when to threaten lethal force and when not.

[obamanut2012]

32. Most states have laws that make this okay and legal for a driver to do

Including Florida.

[keopeli]

39. I was taught to do this always and not just for young women.

As a man, I can say I have always known to drive to a safe spot. If it's night, a well-lit, preferably public place.

If this victim had pulled over in the dark middle of nowhere, it is much more likely that this situation would have turned out much, much worse and certainly not in her favor.

I also think it is remarkable that one of her young children recorded the incident on their phone. Perhaps that mother instructed the child to record the scene. Either way, for a child that young to have the presence of mind in the midst of this situation to record is a reflection of how people of color are taught at a young age that they must protect themselves in any encounter with law enforcement.

We live in such a pathetic state, where the good guys are the bad guys and the bad gals are the good gals. I pray things can improve in my lifetime, for the sake of future generations.

[forgotmylogin]

45. It's always safer to pull into a parking lot away from traffic if you can.

So many police have been hit by other cars when they've pulled someone over on a narrow shoulder where there's not a lot of room.

Even if there is room, traffic will slow and rubberneck.

[treestar]

63. Ditto my father told me this

due to the killers in the LA area who had pretended to be cops. Dad claimed a real cop would respect this.

I asked a cop about it in traffic school, and he said no, this was not legit. That was years later. So it may not be accepted now.

[Irish_Dem]

9. If this is what the cop did in public, what would he have done on an isolated dark road?

The woman was smart to keep going until she was in a well lit location.

[Maraya1969]

10. You are supposed to be allowed to move to a lighted area!!! I would never pull over

for anyone in a dark place with no people around. And I once made a cop follow me for about 2 miles while I found a convivence store and pulled in right in front of the front door. He was mad but I told him I did it for my own protection.

[uponit7771]

13. +1,

[Irish_Dem]

24. When I was young, men posed as cops to stop women in isolated places.

And assaulted them.

So it was ingrained in us to get to a well lighted, public place before exiting our car for routine police stops.

[Maraya1969]

28. I remember a true crime story about a fake cop who used to murder women by pulling

them over on dark streets. Scared the crap out of me and to this day I would never pull over on a dark road for anyone unless my car would literally stop working.

[Irish_Dem]

34. Yep.

It is scary that men would pose as cops to assault or murder women.

Right I would never pull over for anyone on a dark road.
I would probably call 911 and explain what I was doing and why.

[Maraya1969]

35. You just reminded me that it is a good idea to call 911 when a cop is trying to detain you

just to make sure that the cop is real and that they know what is going on.

[Irish_Dem]

36. Yes it would document and protect us further.

We could verify it was a real cop asking us to pull over.

And document that we wanted to comply with the law but wanted to do so in a safe manner.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

15. This asshole needs to be prosecuted

This asshole pulled a gun when they lady had her kids in the car

[MarineCombatEngineer]

19. Prosecuted for Oppression under the color of Law

and his police officer cert. should be permanently revoked so he can never again work as a police officer anywhere in the US.

[mjvpi]

40. I thought DeSantis had invited all of these guys to Florida after they had been fired.....

……. by civilized municipalities. You quit in Florida, where can you go?

I agree with you 200%!

[RAB910]

25. Unless the asshole's certification is pulled, he will just be hired by another Florida police

department

[dalton99a]

26. POS was itching to kill people

[EnergizedLib]

27. I'm all the pro lifers will defend the woman

Right?

Right?

May he never be hired again.

[blueknight73]

48. He's probably

Already getting hired in the next county over

[chia]

29. I'm old enough to remember when CHP Craig Peyer killed motorist Cara Knott on a night stop...

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/public-safety/sd-me-knott-verdict-anniversary-20180621-story.html

[chia]

30. Resignation isn't enough for the scum.

[Lars39]

31. Shady?! Fuck that guy

[lindysalsagal]

33. She saved her own life by quickly deciding to go to a public place.

Bravo for her.

[LudwigPastorius]

37. OINK!

[rsdsharp]

38. The headline makes it kind of look like he did the right thing and resigned.

In fact, he had already been required to tender his resignation after a history of misconduct. He entered into an agreement whereby the resignation would not be accepted unless he violated policy again within a year. He did — on this occasion — and the resignation was accepted. He was on a “last chance agreement,” and he screwed that up.

This guy should never have been out there in the first place. He is temperamentally unsuited to the job, but all you need to be a cop in most places is a GED and an IQ below 104, which enables you to go to cop trade school.

[Mr.Bill]

41. I think it would be good policy

if turning your hazard lights and driving to a safe space at a slow speed was a universally accepted safety maneuver when being pulled over.

[Just Jerome]

46. This thug

has a spot waiting for him on Desantis's election goon squad.

[blueknight73]

47. What a petulant

Fucking prick that deputy is. He was an asshole from word go

[blueknight73]

51. I just watched it

For the third time. What a lousy, no good Prick he is. She did EVERYTHING correctly. He needs his fucking ass beat

[Trueblue1968]

52. my hysterical opinion is :::: THROW HIS ASS IN PRISON.

[skypilot]

54. Let's be accurate here.

The cop is actually NOT white.

[Whiskeytide]

56. Looks white to me. What are you seeing that I'm not? n/t

[skypilot]

58. I googled him...

...and there is a news report on some other matter where he is being interviewed. I'll try to find the post again and provide a link.

On edit:

Jacob Desue appears at about the :51 mark.

[nowforever]

55. I understand why he was agitated

He was scared and this fear brought out his aggressive initial reaction. But once he discovered he was dealing with a fearful pregnant woman who had 3 children in the car and gave a rational reason for stopping in a lighted zone, he should have stopped his extremely aggressive and threatening behavior.

[tblue37]

60. He wouldn't let her explain. He kept saying to shut up and that he did care what her reason was.

[uponit7771]

75. +1, he didn't even know whether or not it was an emergency drive a location. Just unproressional

... and doesn't give a damn about keeping a relationship with the community he's serving.

That's on his leadership, that screws it up for everyone on that force

[treestar]

64. Yes, there is no way to know who is driving

it's just a car to the cop. This comes across like he knew that.

[Happy Hoosier]

66. What the fuck was she scared of?

She put on her hazards, slowed down and pulled over into a public place. It's pretty clear she intended to comply in a safe way.

This asshole was just made that this mere "citizen" didn't grovel before his authoritay!

[uponit7771]

73. He can be agitated and scared and professional too, he wasn't and she followed the law and good ...

... practice after she was followed.

Also, he does he know it wasn't an emergency and the women had to speed to a location?!

No really, we need to stop enabling unprofessionalism in America's law enforcement.

[spudspud]

59. That cop is an absolute piece of human garbage.

Thankfully, he was pushed out of this position. HOPEFULLY he doesn't just saunter on down to the next town to be hired another "cop."

[Happy Hoosier]

65. And he holds the gun "gansta" style. What a clown.

We need actual professionals as cops, not these power-hungry cowboys.

[irisblue]

67. That dude has a long history of problems on duty.

source-https://www.firstcoastnews.com/article/news/crime/footage-bradford-county-deputy-pointed-gun-discipline-body-camera-new/77-c5766c5b-36da-4b00-990d-6cd1cf99817b

snip-"Footage shows Bradford County deputy who pointed gun at pregnant woman pinning a man during arrest
Former deputy Desue had a list of disciplinary write-ups. He was issued a last chance agreement and put on special probationary period in April 2022.

Author: Atyia Collins
Published: 6:54 PM EDT August 23, 2022
Updated: 6:54 PM EDT August 23, 2022


snip-"Desue started his employment with the Bradford County Sheriff’s Office in March 2020. Since then, he has accumulated a list of disciplinary actions, First Coast News has obtained records going back to July 2021."



More at article.

[uponit7771]

74. yep, figures he has a history of bullshit !!!

[RANDYWILDMAN]

70. Driving while black and pregnant

she is lucky to be alive, Not kidding

[WhiskeyGrinder]

71. FTP.

[Hortensis]

72. Good! He's proven the wrong stuff, and gone in the same month.

Cops run into this situation, especially with women.

I've twice over the past 55 years late in the evening responded by slowing, tapping my brakes and turn signal or whatever, but continuing to drive on from a lone, dark stretch to a hopefully safer place to stop. None of the cops were exactly pleased, but they accepted my explanation (after checking my record). In fact, both times I wasn't ticketed when they found out the why of whatever drew me to their attention. (Once I was drying my brakes on an empty boulevard, driving slowish and pressing on them erratically/now and then, after accidentally dropping into a deep puddle in a heavy rainstorm.)