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CentralMass

(15,265 posts)
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 09:11 AM Aug 2022

It's a deal with the devil': outrage in Appalachia over Manchin's 'vile' pipeline plan

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/aug/26/joe-manchin-west-virginia-mountain-valley-pipeline

"The fossil-fuel friendly senator has resurrected the Mountain Valley pipeline, leaving residents with a bitter pill to swallow.
Taking on the fossil fuel industry in West Virginia was always going to be a David v Goliath type battle, but after years of protests, lobbying and lawsuits, 68-year-old Becky Crabtree thought the community-led resistance had beaten the Mountain Valley pipeline (MVP) in a fair fight.

So when news broke earlier in August that the state’s fossil-fuel friendly senator Joe Manchin had resurrected the beleaguered pipeline, Crabtree, a high school science teacher who teaches students about the climate crisis, felt “numb”.
Taking on the fossil fuel industry in West Virginia was always going to be a David v Goliath type battle, but after years of protests, lobbying and lawsuits, 68-year-old Becky Crabtree thought the community-led resistance had beaten the Mountain Valley pipeline (MVP) in a fair fight.

Manchin, a conservative Democrat who receives more campaign financing from the fossil fuel industry – including pipeline companies – than any other lawmaker in Congress, had agreed to back his party’s historic climate legislation before the crucial midterm elections. But only after he negotiated a side-deal to fast-track the MVP
“It’s the unfairness that makes me so angry. It’s a deal with the devil,” said Crabtree, 68, who owns a 30-acre sheep farm in Lindside, Monroe county.

The deal is a sweet one for the pipeline’s supporters. Democratic leaders agreed to advance separate legislation in September that would “require the relevant agencies to take all necessary actions to permit the construction and operation of the MVP and give the DC circuit jurisdiction over any further litigation”.

This could help the pipeline company circumvent judges who have suspended construction and overturned permits over environmental concerns, and have future legal cases heard in an appeals court in Washington, which is considered more favourable to developers.
It’s part of a broader set of concessions negotiated by Manchin to diminish environmental protections and expedite permits and construction of pipelines and other energy infrastructure, limiting legal challenges by concerned communities and environmental groups.
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It's a deal with the devil': outrage in Appalachia over Manchin's 'vile' pipeline plan (Original Post) CentralMass Aug 2022 OP
Why couldn't they just buy off Manchin orthoclad Aug 2022 #1
And how many of these hillbillies voted for him because of guns or abortion Ray Bruns Aug 2022 #2
Better they vote for Manchin than a Republican. Elessar Zappa Aug 2022 #8
Post removed Post removed Aug 2022 #3
If they knew Manchin was a problem for them, why do they keep voting for him? Baitball Blogger Aug 2022 #4
Emotional hot buttons orthoclad Aug 2022 #5
The reconciliation bill is signed into law now Deminpenn Aug 2022 #6
The R's would not oppose a pipeline bill. CentralMass Aug 2022 #7
You sure? Deminpenn Aug 2022 #9
I read that 94% of the pipeline has been completed, but wasn't Hortensis Aug 2022 #10

orthoclad

(2,910 posts)
1. Why couldn't they just buy off Manchin
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 09:17 AM
Aug 2022

by promising to build renewable manufacturing in WV and LA where the fossil jobs are. Oh, that's right, Manchin's a fossil baron.

Elessar Zappa

(14,085 posts)
8. Better they vote for Manchin than a Republican.
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 01:35 PM
Aug 2022

Manchin’s not great but he’s voted for many of Biden’s bills and has voted to confirm all of Biden’s judges. He’s the best we can do in the deep red state of West Virginia.

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orthoclad

(2,910 posts)
5. Emotional hot buttons
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 10:18 AM
Aug 2022

gods, guns, guts, etc. Plus many there look to coal for jobs, because that's what they know. Black gold and all that. Lot of pride there in supporting their family by doing dirty, dangerous work.

Jobs there are incredibly scarce. People drive over 50 miles to work. When you're hanging on by a thread, you stick with the tried and true.

Deminpenn

(15,290 posts)
6. The reconciliation bill is signed into law now
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 10:44 AM
Aug 2022

I'm not even sure the pipeline bill would pass since Rs oppose all proposed Dem legislation on principle now and there will be Dems who will vote against it.

Deminpenn

(15,290 posts)
9. You sure?
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 01:39 PM
Aug 2022

Rs have voted against all kinds of bills you'd think they'd support just because they were brought forward by Dems.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
10. I read that 94% of the pipeline has been completed, but wasn't
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 01:58 PM
Aug 2022

able to verify how accurate that figure is. For instance, does it include the 8-mile extension to connect to another pipeline? Without, it looks like there's about 20 miles still to be completed.

One family that had fought its path through their over 500-acre wooded mountain site lost their case just this summer. The jury awarded a very large settlement, and they're happy with that but say they'd choose no pipeline instead. As soon as the pipeline company won, they rushed equipment in and began clearing the easement.

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