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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsOf Course: Mar-a-Lago Has Underground Tunnels (A Security Nightmare)
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According to a new book by Andrew Kurtzman, former attorney for Donald Trump, Rudy Giuliani and his third wife, Judith, secretly moved into a bungalow across from the ex-President's Florida resort, Mar-a-Lago. At the time, Rudy Jailiani was drinking heavily. Although Rudy denies having a drinking problem, he's been accused of it quite often. Giuliani was suffering from depression at the time, too. Reports of Mar-a-Lago being a security nightmare just got worse.
Wealthy people used these tunnels to smuggle booze during Prohibition. Again, the entire place is a national security nightmare, and yet, that's where the one-term meathead kept our country's most sensitive documents, apparently just lying around all willy-nilly. Quick question: When is that traitor going to be perp-walked?
https://crooksandliars.com/2022/08/cours-mar-lago-reportedly-has-underground
Kirtzmans reporting of Giulianis little-known 2008 stay at Mar-a-Lago a period when in Giulianis ex-wifes words he was both speaking to therapists and always falling shitfaced somewhere also prefigures Giulianis current role in American public life, as a chaotic, picaresque Trump booster seemingly impervious to personal or political embarrassment.
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The former mayor and his wife, Kirtzman writes, moved into a bungalow across the street from Mar-a-Lago but connected by a tunnel underneath South Ocean Boulevard, one of many little known passages and rooms beneath the expansive resort. The secret route allowed the couple to come and go from Trumps home without the media knowing.
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2022/aug/24/donald-trump-secret-mar-a-lago-stay-rudy-giuliani-drink-depression-wife-andrew-kirtzman-book
A student gained access to Donald Trump's Florida residence while the president was staying at the property after sneaking through a tunnel leading from a nearby beach.
Mark Lindblom, who was 18 at the time, spent 20 minutes wandering around the communal areas of Mr Trump's Mar-a-Lago resort before he was arrested.
Secret Service agents approached the teenager after becoming suspicious that he was not a member of the golf club.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/trump-mar-a-lago-security-breach-arrest-tunnel-mark-lindblom-a8934366.html
So, pretty much, packages could be placed anywhere in these tunnels for spies to pick up undetected.
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A HERETIC I AM
(24,368 posts)It makes for great copy, but it is COMPLETELY overblown.
I am not an expert on the property, nor am I a member of The Mar-A-Lago Club, but one thing I know for sure; THERE ARENT A BUNCH OF TUNNELS UNDER A PROPERTY THAT SITS 6 FEET ABOVE SEA LEVEL!!!
As I said in this post , its obvious that there is ONE tunnel under South Ocean Blvd, leading to the beachside pool and the beach and provides access to the guest house (hardly a bungalow) on the east side of Ocean Drive.
ONE. FUCKING. TUNNEL.
ONE. And its nothing but a walkway under a road to access the pool and the beach.
Right here; https://goo.gl/maps/najQEqhEe9v7X2Je7
The above might open to blue sky, so rotate the pic till you can see the property and locate the southeast corner of the front lawn. There is a pathway leading to the tunnel and you can clearly see the stairs leading down.
TheBlackAdder
(28,193 posts).
I posted an OP as to what would stop an ocean surge from wiping out the whole place. Then, I was schooled.
I had family in Ocean City NJ that owned a residence that was only one of six homes with a basement. And that sucker was bone dry. It had a sump but was never used.
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303squadron
(545 posts)The water table that close to the ocean is maybe 6 feet. There are no basements in my area to my knowledge. To have a tunnel in South Florida one would need to have a bunch of sump pumps working 24-7.
obamanut2012
(26,076 posts)Are all over SOFL. Especially on Palm Beach and along A1A. All the older rich places have them.
niyad
(113,302 posts)obamanut2012
(26,076 posts)Especially on Palm Beach and along A1A. Not a big deal, and they aren't even tunnels the way people on here think.
A security isue for a President, etc., but not a big deal.
JHB
(37,160 posts)Yes, it would provide Giuliani a "secret route" simply by using the beach access rather than one of the main gates the media might be watching, but the tunnel itself is nothing mysterious or unusual.
Red circle is entrance/outlet on MAL side, yellow line is approximate path under the road.
MAL is on a barrier island. The water table there is much too high to maintain actual underground tunnels.
Yorkie Mom
(16,420 posts)Princess Turandot
(4,787 posts)Survey. (It doesn't connect to the house itself. It's just an outdoor walkway.)
The place is on the National Register of Historic Places, having been built for Marjorie Merriweather Post in the 1920's. (She inherited/owned General Foods.) I don't think she had a swimming pool, so the beach tunnel must've come in handy, to avoid becoming roadkill.
https://www.loc.gov/resource/hhh.fl0181.photos/?sp=106
Ligyron
(7,632 posts)There are plenty of tunnels in Palm Beach connecting properties with the beach across the street. I've been in them myself many times and even in a damn basement here on beachfront property.
In fact, there's a house consisting of pod structures connected by tunnels and it's beachfront also.
keithbvadu2
(36,801 posts)Of course there are tunnels.
They are connected to the system of tunnels between closed Walmarts.
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=tunnels+between+walmarts
LetMyPeopleVote
(145,231 posts)eppur_se_muova
(36,262 posts)one carrying plenty of suspicious hardware.