The plot thickens in NY-10.....

[brooklynite]

Cynthia Nixon and the DSA folks are encouraging Yuh-Line Niou, who came in 2nd in the Democratic Primary, to try and get the Working Families party line in November. Apparently Dan Goldman is a secret "Joe Manchin conservative" who fooled the voters.

Yuh-Line Niou eyes Hail Mary third party run in NY-10

The heated race for New York’s new 10th Congressional District may not be over after all. Assembly Member Yuh-Line Niou, who is expected to come in second in the Democratic primary to former House impeachment counsel and Levi Strauss heir Dan Goldman, is considering running against Goldman in the November general election on the Working Families Party line.

In a state like New York that has fusion voting, the prospect of a serious third party candidate mounting a competitive challenge shouldn’t be so foreign. Letitia James, prior to becoming state Attorney General, won election to the New York City Council in 2003 on the Working Families Party line, just five years after the WFP’s founding and two years after failing to win on the WFP line in that same council district. But two decades later, such a run is still an uphill battle. Niou herself ran on the WFP line against the Democratic party’s nominee in a 2016 special election for the Lower Manhattan Assembly seat she currently holds. Niou lost the special election, though she won the Democratic primary for the seat months later and was subsequently elected to the Assembly.

Goldman, who bested more progressive candidates in the crowded Democratic primary including Niou, Rep. Mondaire Jones and New York City Council Member Carlina Rivera, will have not just the obvious strength of the Democratic party line on his side in November, but a deep well of funding and growing establishment support, too.

But that hasn’t stopped the excited chatter among some progressives about Niou possibly running on the WFP line, based largely on the notion that left-leaning voters who cast ballots for Jones or Rivera in the primary could rally around Niou as a unity candidate for progressives against Goldman – a super wealthy and largely self-funded candidate with more moderate views on issues like health care reform and expanding the Supreme Court. Though the election results have yet to be certified, the initial tally shows Goldman capturing roughly 26% of the vote, Niou with roughly 24%, Jones with 18% and Rivera with 17%.

https://www.cityandstateny.com/politics/2022/08/yuh-line-niou-eyes-hail-mary-third-party-run-ny-10/376396/

[DURHAM D]

1. The stupid it burns

[Claustrum]

2. Would it end up costing us a seat?

Is that district even competitive?

[brooklynite]

6. Republicans don't have a chance of winning...

...but this will involve time and money spent replacing a Democrat with another Democrat, as opposed to holding on to enough seats to maintain control of the House.

[Claustrum]

7. Fair enough.

I would much rather see the money going toward a swing or lean red district. Imagine we repeat 2018 with a Max Rose win in NY-11 (I know, long shot) instead of wasting money in a safe seat.

[David__77]

3. Sort of like that Buffalo mayor.

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[msfiddlestix]

4. "Fusion Voting"?

does that refer to minor parties joining together in election races?

[brooklynite]

8. It means that all votes for an individual are combined...

...regardless of which Party line they were voted on. Smaller Parties can cross-endorse a major Party's candidate, and candidates can get themselves on the ballot under multiple Party names.

In 2018, Andres Cuomo ran under the Democratic, Independence, Women's Equality Party and Working Families Party lines.

[msfiddlestix]

9. Wow. I have to process if that's good for democracy or not, instinct does not favor personally

I'm wondering now, if this sort of thing is being organized here in California.

We've had a string of new, sort of one-off parties created over the years. And I don't know if it's becauses I'm now subscribed to the Sec of State's annoucements in the past year or so and receive multiple announcements daily, but it seems there have been numerous new parties, some with very odd names, registering to get on the ballot of Nov's election.

I don't think I favor this as a thing. I hope it isn't being organized to change our current protocols, which I feel is the best in all the decades I've lived here.

[Roisin Ni Fiachra]

5. Splitting Dem party candidate votes promotes fascism.

That is all, and that is enough.

[Retrograde]

10. Niou's in the state assembly

which means that she was one of the people responsible for redistricting New York, right? So IMHO that makes her part of the problem. Yes, I know the state's original proposal was thrown out and the new map was developed under somewhat shady circumstances, but crying foul when you don't like the results seems like a rather Republican tactic to me.

And didn't Mondaire Jones - who I think has more reason to be disappointed in his loss - already get the Working Party nomination? Is Niou saying that she's more worthy of the seat than him?

[brooklynite]

11. Jones is not expected to keep the WFP line...

but a Party that endorsed Andrew Cuomo four years ago (and pointedly DID NOT endorse Niou) shouldn't have a problem endorsing Goldman.