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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhen zealots tell you religion should rule according to the founders, : Thomas's own words:
https://www.monticello.org/research-education/thomas-jefferson-encyclopedia/thomas-jefferson-and-religious-freedom/Thomas Jefferson has been closely associated with religious freedom for more than two centuries. In the first Supreme Court case addressing the religion clauses of the First Amendment, Reynolds v. United States, the Court unanimously agreed that Jeffersons Statute for Religious Freedom defined religious liberty and the true distinction between what properly belongs to the church and what to the State.[1] Jeffersons commitment to religious freedom grew from several inter-related sources.
For Jefferson, an Enlightenment rationalist, reason had to govern in all areas, including religion. For the use of reason every one is responsible to the God who has planted it in his breast, as a light for his guidance, and that, by which alone he will be judged, Jefferson explained.[2] His declaration to Benjamin Rush that I have sworn upon the altar of god eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man, was made in the context of religious freedom: any government effort to control religious beliefs was tyranny over the mind of man.[3]
Politically, Jefferson believed that the new nation required complete religious freedom and separation of church and state. Many historians note that the broad diversity of ethnicities and religions in the thirteen colonies meant that religious freedom was necessary if the union was to be successful. This is true, but for Jefferson the political necessity of religious freedom went further. Before the Revolution, Virginia had an official church the Church of England and dissenters from that Church (primarily Presbyterians and Baptists) were discriminated against and seriously persecuted. This deeply disturbed Jefferson. Later in life, Jefferson referred to the early battles in this conflict as the severest contests in which I have ever been engaged. Ultimately, this political controversy resulted in the adoption of the Virginia Statute for Religious Freedom, one of the three items that Jefferson wished to have preserved on his grave marker.[4]
Jefferson saw religious freedom as essential for a functioning republic. Without religious freedom and a strict separation of church and state, kings, nobles, and priests threatened to create a dangerous aristocracy. As Peter Onuf explains, Jefferson defined the old regime as an unholy alliance of kings, nobles, and priests that divided the people in order to rule them. Jeffersons Bill for Religious Freedom, [made] possible the progressive development of that entire union of opinion that alone could guarantee the survival of republican government.[5]
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When zealots tell you religion should rule according to the founders, : Thomas's own words: (Original Post)
lindysalsagal
Aug 2022
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They cherry-pick the odd line that sounds right to them, just like their bible
lindysalsagal
Aug 2022
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OAITW r.2.0
(24,504 posts)1. I wish the RW would read the founding father's words, but I'm not sure
they can understand them.
lindysalsagal
(20,692 posts)2. They cherry-pick the odd line that sounds right to them, just like their bible
mopinko
(70,112 posts)3. and the clerics of the time saw the wisdom in that.
they knew full well what happens when the church meddled in politics.