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iluvtennis

(19,858 posts)
Sun Aug 28, 2022, 11:46 PM Aug 2022

Greg Abbott left no tip to restaturant servers and he had a party of twenty folks






Denise☮️@DeniseBinAR
Replying to @JonBoyle18 and @Joannafersulli
My niece was a server at The Rainforest Cafe in Grapevine, Texas. Abbott came in with a party of twenty. Two servers. Not one dime for a tip. His wife told my niece they should be honored to serve him.

My niece, single mom, came home in tears.



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Fkn cheap bastard
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Greg Abbott left no tip to restaturant servers and he had a party of twenty folks (Original Post) iluvtennis Aug 2022 OP
What a piece of shit. Meadowoak Aug 2022 #1
Exactly. n/t iluvtennis Aug 2022 #2
When billionaires are your boss Turbineguy Aug 2022 #3
The cruelty is the point. The Unmitigated Gall Aug 2022 #4
Cheap bastard at140 Aug 2022 #5
I think I would have told him off to his face. Meadowoak Aug 2022 #6
I took a lot of crap in my working life, and since I desperately needed whatever job I was in... Hekate Aug 2022 #36
Cecilia Abbott also deserves to be shamed for her comment. TexasTowelie Aug 2022 #7
+++ agree. n/t iluvtennis Aug 2022 #8
Her fashion choice is shameful. roody Aug 2022 #57
Very TFG-like treestar Aug 2022 #61
I hope she remembers that in November MiniMe Aug 2022 #9
Typical Abbott. dalton99a Aug 2022 #10
VOTE THAT SOB OUT OF OFFICE AND OUT OF TEXAS! n/t CaliforniaPeggy Aug 2022 #11
Time to sack the cancerous Christian right! Initech Aug 2022 #92
I hope a journalist goes after him and asks him about this Maraya1969 Aug 2022 #12
If I ever had to follow a non tipping group outside KS Toronado Aug 2022 #35
Oh. I got one, too...when I worked at a casino, a guy left .50 on the bar, Volaris Aug 2022 #45
Hope he was drinking the cheap stuff KS Toronado Aug 2022 #48
This story needs legs pandr32 Aug 2022 #13
Have to make sure it's true first. ARandomPerson Aug 2022 #16
Here in CA I've never encountered a restaurant that doesn't add a standard gratuity Just A Box Of Rain Aug 2022 #38
California is quite different than Texas. W_HAMILTON Aug 2022 #75
NY does the same thing. In fact, we're often asked on the bill... TreasonousBastard Aug 2022 #91
Good point pandr32 Aug 2022 #71
Maybe Beto should mention it at some of his rallies. It really Meadowoak Aug 2022 #39
It is a gut punch to working people. pandr32 Aug 2022 #72
So this is what counts as news these days? prodigitalson Aug 2022 #14
White Supremacy to spare y'all. Dannie Scott Goeb is his Puppet Master. Ask him. czarjak Aug 2022 #15
Who;s the bigger asshole, him or his Mrs? Warpy Aug 2022 #17
Scrooge. lpbk2713 Aug 2022 #18
Sounds exactly like TFG who stiffs those he hires saying his business is sufficient contribution Rhiannon12866 Aug 2022 #19
Sounds like Donnie Dumbass with contractors. I won't pay you, but tell people you worked for me AZLD4Candidate Aug 2022 #20
Twitter replies: Rhiannon12866 Aug 2022 #21
depends on if it is true actually nt msongs Aug 2022 #22
don't like defending assholes Kali Aug 2022 #31
The only thing I would be honored to serve him soldierant Aug 2022 #23
I hope he dines there again very soon. SergeStorms Aug 2022 #24
He can't be that dumb. Iggo Aug 2022 #33
He most certainly is. SergeStorms Aug 2022 #64
I mean, he doesn't have anyone working for him who used to work in the food service industry? Iggo Aug 2022 #67
Precisely. SergeStorms Aug 2022 #94
Pecan pie, anyone? niyad Aug 2022 #90
Greg has always been an ashhole LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2022 #25
of course, Greg got what he needed, after his accident Skittles Aug 2022 #28
The accident before I got to the firm-Texas monthly had a long article on Greg LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2022 #29
it feels like Abbott and DeSantis are in a contest to see who can be the most cruel Skittles Aug 2022 #32
I agree LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2022 #34
they perform strictly for the sick cult Skittles Aug 2022 #41
These 'people' are so full of themselves Norbert Aug 2022 #26
A party that big should have gratuity figured into the ticket. Sogo Aug 2022 #27
Not sure if its company wide, but the FL Rainforest Cafe adds 18% to the bill for large parties onenote Aug 2022 #55
Someone needs to piss in his drink before they serve it to him. fierywoman Aug 2022 #30
Has anyone confirmed this is not just confirmation bias? n/t Ms. Toad Aug 2022 #37
I can believe he's a cheap SOB Retrograde Aug 2022 #44
The former is what I'm concerned about - Ms. Toad Aug 2022 #65
Thats some kind of fucked up YoshidaYui Aug 2022 #40
What A Douche Lemon Lyman Aug 2022 #42
His voters think he is smart for stuff like this RANDYWILDMAN Aug 2022 #43
I was waitressing during high school and got fired because I refused to wait on Klan members. Solly Mack Aug 2022 #46
I applaud your stance! Hekate Aug 2022 #47
I didn't have the need a single parent or even a married parent would have, so it didn't Solly Mack Aug 2022 #49
Tip? LudwigPastorius Aug 2022 #50
If the tip was not included in the bill DFW Aug 2022 #51
But it is not. former9thward Aug 2022 #81
This doesn't sound right jmowreader Aug 2022 #52
Not sure about the Texas location, but the Florida Rainforest Cafe adds 18% automatically onenote Aug 2022 #54
The restaurants website says Liberal In Texas Aug 2022 #56
A reveiw says it is "suggested" but in fact is automatially added. former9thward Aug 2022 #82
That's the Florida location, not the Grapevine TX one. Goodheart Aug 2022 #83
No, the policy saying it is "suggested" is nationwide. former9thward Aug 2022 #84
What's the difference VGNonly Aug 2022 #53
The story needs to be verified before running with it. A party of 20 would be automatic gratuity. Pisces Aug 2022 #58
This will do it permanently for ...former governor ..."Greg Abbott." He hasn't got a clue. Stuart G Aug 2022 #59
Selfishness is a cornerstone of the repug party. I'd be surprised he didn't reach over and steal the Hotler Aug 2022 #60
I just went to restaurant's location-specific site to verify tipping policy : bullwinkle428 Aug 2022 #62
Abbott and his wife must eat a lot of spit and pwb Aug 2022 #63
No, Mrs. Abbott EnergizedLib Aug 2022 #66
I would be in tears too, if I had just worked for $2.13 an hour DBoon Aug 2022 #68
I call bullshit superpatriotman Aug 2022 #69
From the Rainforest Cafe website Cadfael Aug 2022 #70
Thanks. Discretionary gratuity means it's not just included in bill for LARGE party. n/t iluvtennis Aug 2022 #73
Exactly! Cadfael Aug 2022 #74
Hope Denise and those servers are registered to vote and return the favor to Abbott. nt allegorical oracle Aug 2022 #76
In Abbott's mind, slaves always are honored to serve him. Kid Berwyn Aug 2022 #77
Most good restaurants automatically add 18-20% tip for parties of 6 or more. mnhtnbb Aug 2022 #78
Different atmosphere in Texas, apparently. Goodheart Aug 2022 #80
This is worth an ad in all TX newspapers and a banner over his estate. nt Samrob Aug 2022 #79
Most restaurants I go to add an automatic 18% tip to large parties... Lisa0825 Aug 2022 #85
See post #70 above. n/t iluvtennis Aug 2022 #87
It's not cheap, Abbott is a dick, being a dick. sarcasmo Aug 2022 #86
the "fake no tip" story has been around before Takket Aug 2022 #88
It should have already been included in the check. FlyingPiggy Aug 2022 #89
"He's a horrible person" - that seems to be a common denominator with Christian right politicians. Initech Aug 2022 #93

Hekate

(90,690 posts)
36. I took a lot of crap in my working life, and since I desperately needed whatever job I was in...
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 01:16 AM
Aug 2022

…I NEVER told anybody off to their face. That went double when I was a single mom.

TexasTowelie

(112,202 posts)
7. Cecilia Abbott also deserves to be shamed for her comment.
Sun Aug 28, 2022, 11:56 PM
Aug 2022


The arrogant nature of that comment is an indicator that Greg deserves to be voted out office.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
61. Very TFG-like
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 10:24 AM
Aug 2022

when TFG says people will get more business merely because they did something for him as a justification for not paying.

Maraya1969

(22,480 posts)
12. I hope a journalist goes after him and asks him about this
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 12:04 AM
Aug 2022

Get him on record that he stiffed these waitstaff.

When I waited tables I follow 2 groups out to the damn parking lot. And I got my tips too. It's funny how if you confront these people they act all sheepish and give you money.

KS Toronado

(17,235 posts)
35. If I ever had to follow a non tipping group outside
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 01:14 AM
Aug 2022

HEY, did any of you guys see who stole the tips you left me?

Volaris

(10,271 posts)
45. Oh. I got one, too...when I worked at a casino, a guy left .50 on the bar,
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 02:11 AM
Aug 2022

And the bartender wasn't having it. She walked it back over to the guys blackjack table and told him he forgot his change.

'Oh no, that was your tip.'

'That's not MY tip, and if I ever see you do that to any other bartenders in here again, security is GOING to remove you from the premises.

For rest of the night, her tip was the rest of the 10 bill. Per beer.

ARandomPerson

(2,406 posts)
16. Have to make sure it's true first.
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 12:12 AM
Aug 2022

For example, lots of restaurants add a standard gratuity (15-20%) to a bill for a large party (such as 20 people). Are we sure that the complaint isn't simply that the Abbott party didn't add a tip *beyond* the standard gratuity? if that's the case, things are much more murky. Best not to go off just based on a tweet.

 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
38. Here in CA I've never encountered a restaurant that doesn't add a standard gratuity
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 01:20 AM
Aug 2022

automatically onto the bills for large parties.

Not sure what happens in Texas, but...

pandr32

(11,584 posts)
71. Good point
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 04:19 PM
Aug 2022

Though it seems unlikely that Abbot's wife would have behaved with such callousness if that were the case. The servers wouldn't have likely complained either.

Meadowoak

(5,546 posts)
39. Maybe Beto should mention it at some of his rallies. It really
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 01:24 AM
Aug 2022

Goes to the heart of what Abbott thinks of working people in Texas.

pandr32

(11,584 posts)
72. It is a gut punch to working people.
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 04:22 PM
Aug 2022

Texas has wealth. I think Canada's Alberta is similar, but Alberta has free health care and no sales or payroll tax.

prodigitalson

(2,422 posts)
14. So this is what counts as news these days?
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 12:07 AM
Aug 2022

Dog bights man?

Genuine newsworthy Headline

Counterintuitively, Abbott doesn't stiff wait staff

Warpy

(111,261 posts)
17. Who;s the bigger asshole, him or his Mrs?
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 12:17 AM
Aug 2022

I'd say it's a dead heat.

Maker sure your niece tells that story all over the place. That clueless cheap bastard needs to be outed as a clueless cheap bastard. Oh, and tell her to call Beto's local campaign office. Maybe restaurant managers will tell him to honor somebody else.

AZLD4Candidate

(5,690 posts)
20. Sounds like Donnie Dumbass with contractors. I won't pay you, but tell people you worked for me
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 12:29 AM
Aug 2022

Look at all the business you'll make. You should be happy I gave you the opportunity and be honored I stiffed you.

Kali

(55,008 posts)
31. don't like defending assholes
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 01:06 AM
Aug 2022

but when I was waiting tables, parties over 6 had a gratuity added automatically. good folks leave more on the table, but still...

SergeStorms

(19,201 posts)
24. I hope he dines there again very soon.
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 12:40 AM
Aug 2022

Chefs and Servers have special techniques for taking care of customers who are raging idiots or stiff the Server.

Yep.....special techniques alright.

SergeStorms

(19,201 posts)
64. He most certainly is.
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 02:08 PM
Aug 2022

These people think their feces doesn't stink and that they can do, or say, anything and get away with it.

If only one republinut recognized him and sang his praises that's all he'll remember about the place.

I imagine he'll be dining there again within two weeks.

Iggo

(47,552 posts)
67. I mean, he doesn't have anyone working for him who used to work in the food service industry?
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 03:24 PM
Aug 2022

I know my boss screwed up once and got in an argument with the back-of-house staff at a restaurant we were having lunch at, and I had to tel him “No. A hundred percent, no. You can never ever eat there again, no matter what.”

Don’t fuck with strangers who prepare your food, man.

SergeStorms

(19,201 posts)
94. Precisely.
Tue Aug 30, 2022, 12:58 AM
Aug 2022

It would never occur to these republinazis that someone who they consider "beneath them" would dare do anything in retribution for their abhorrent behavior.

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,242 posts)
25. Greg has always been an ashhole
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 12:43 AM
Aug 2022

I was at the same firm for a while in the 1980s. Greg was part of the toxic tort defense team who bragged about cheating widows and orphans out of what due to them

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,242 posts)
29. The accident before I got to the firm-Texas monthly had a long article on Greg
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 01:02 AM
Aug 2022

It is written by a person who was a paralegal at the firm Greg started at. That firm had issues and fell apart in the early 1990s.

I still have not figured out why Greg is running so scared. Greg is pushing policies that fine with the Q-nuts and the more right-wing part of the base. These same policies will hurt Greg in the general election.

There are some good details on the settlement Greg got due to a falling tree. I never got all of the details of this settlement or the accident that left Greg in a wheel chair.



https://www.texasmonthly.com/news-politics/who-is-greg-abbott/
One of the higher-ups at Butler & Binion was a canny litigator named Pearson Grimes. (Disclosure: I worked as a paralegal at Butler & Binion from 1976 to 1979, before Abbott arrived.) Grimes persuaded Don Riddle, who was then considered one of the best personal injury lawyers in Houston, to represent his young associate in a potential lawsuit. Abbott had been hurt during the heyday of the plaintiffs’ bar in Texas, with wily lawyers regularly winning jury awards and settlements in the seven figures for injured clients. Riddle knew, however, that a tree falling did not necessarily indicate negligence on someone’s part—and negligence had to be shown in order to recover damages. But Abbott made for a sympathetic plaintiff, struck down just as his professional life was beginning. And the owner of the property where the accident occurred was a wealthy divorce lawyer, Roy W. Moore. (He died in 2018.) According to one person who heard the story from Moore, he visited Abbott in the hospital and promised that he would insist that his insurance carrier pay Abbott the highest amount the policy would allow, negligence or no negligence.

Moore was covered for $1 million or so in his homeowners policy, Riddle recalled. “A million dollars didn’t stretch that far if you were damaged for life,” he said. But he discovered that Moore had paid a tree company that was part of a large national chain to do some work on the oak. Riddle could then assert that the repairs might have been done improperly—that more attention had been paid to caring for the tree’s canopy than to protecting and stabilizing the roots. Now Riddle had not one but two deep-pocketed defendants. Through what was then known as joint and several liability, a plaintiff could recover damages from multiple parties so long as some responsibility was established.

By 1986, Abbott had completed his rehab. He wasn’t walking, but he was moving forward in other ways. Riddle had negotiated an impressive settlement that would support his client for the rest of his life. The estimated total of $3 million (about $8 million today) began with an initial lump-sum payment of $300,000 (about $770,000 in today’s dollars), followed by another lump sum of $100,000 in 1989. Abbott would continue to get lump-sum payments every three years, with the last payment of $740,020 scheduled for November 1, 2022—a nice supplement to his $153,750 annual governor’s salary. Additionally, in 1986 Abbott started receiving $5,000 a month (almost $13,000 today) with a built-in annual increase of 4 percent for the remainder of his lifetime. It was all tax-free.

I have never been impressed with Greg's intelligence and I am hopeful that Greg will continue to push homophobic policies that will help Beto

Skittles

(153,160 posts)
32. it feels like Abbott and DeSantis are in a contest to see who can be the most cruel
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 01:11 AM
Aug 2022

they both make me sick, like Trump they are utterly VILE people

thank you for the article, Texas Monthly does good work

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,242 posts)
34. I agree
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 01:13 AM
Aug 2022

DeathSantis has just adopted regulations to block gender affirming care for trans youth. Greg came up with this cruelty a while back

onenote

(42,703 posts)
55. Not sure if its company wide, but the FL Rainforest Cafe adds 18% to the bill for large parties
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 07:48 AM
Aug 2022

Retrograde

(10,136 posts)
44. I can believe he's a cheap SOB
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 02:02 AM
Aug 2022

I'm having a hard time believing he dines at Rainforest Cafe or any chain restaurant

Ms. Toad

(34,072 posts)
65. The former is what I'm concerned about -
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 02:18 PM
Aug 2022

It's something we'd love to be true - the very kind of stuff which is made up, attributed to a friend of a friend, and ultimately turns out to be completely made up - usually after we've made fools ourselves by repeating and spreading false junk.

RANDYWILDMAN

(2,672 posts)
43. His voters think he is smart for stuff like this
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 02:00 AM
Aug 2022

His cruelty is the badge that makes him a honored republican.


That man is small.

Solly Mack

(90,767 posts)
46. I was waitressing during high school and got fired because I refused to wait on Klan members.
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 02:18 AM
Aug 2022

Knew who they were because they came in from time to time and always left a calling card on top of their tip. One day they were seated in my section, and I said I wouldn't serve them. I was told to "Do it or clock out". I clocked out.

I did not have the burdens a single parent would have, so it was easier for me to take a stand.

Even still, I would not have waited on Abbott either. It's not the least bit surprising that he stiffed the servers and as odious as the comment made by his wife is, that it was said is also not surprising either.

Scum is scum.








Solly Mack

(90,767 posts)
49. I didn't have the need a single parent or even a married parent would have, so it didn't
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 02:30 AM
Aug 2022

really cost me anything to leave.

But I just couldn't wait on them. I thought even allowing them in the restaurant was wrong.

They harassed the staff and other customers, but the management didn't seem to care because they came in a large group, which meant a hefty bill.

Thank you, though.

Pisses me off when people don't tip.

DFW

(54,384 posts)
51. If the tip was not included in the bill
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 02:51 AM
Aug 2022

If the staff waiting on Abbott and his party came away with nothing at all, this deserves to be on page one of every paper in Texas this morning. We can be sure it will be mentioned in Dallas, Houston, Austin and El Paso, but those are blue islands in a red sea. This needs to be made known statewide.

former9thward

(32,009 posts)
81. But it is not.
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 05:20 PM
Aug 2022

I can't find the story anywhere. Google lists DU as the number one source and Reddit as number two. Why is that? I doubt it happened. A governor, no matter who they are, is not going to handle the bill for that many people. They all have aides to do that.

jmowreader

(50,557 posts)
52. This doesn't sound right
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 02:55 AM
Aug 2022

The company I work for owns either 10 or 11 restaurants depending on whether you want to count our "pedal powered pub" (yes, bicycle themed) with a full menu as a bar or a restaurant. Each of these places has a line at the bottom of the menu: groups of six or more have a 15 percent gratuity automatically added to their check. A lot of people will tip above that because 15 percent is the tip of the past.

Most of the places I go do it too.

This doesn't excuse Abbott's Karen-like wife's nasty comment, but if this restaurant doesn't do automatic gratuity for large groups I'd recommend the niece move to a restaurant that does.

onenote

(42,703 posts)
54. Not sure about the Texas location, but the Florida Rainforest Cafe adds 18% automatically
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 07:47 AM
Aug 2022

to the bill for large parties.

Liberal In Texas

(13,553 posts)
56. The restaurants website says
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 08:59 AM
Aug 2022

"A Suggested Gratuity of 15% - 20% is customary. The amount of gratuity is always discretionary."

So they apparently don't have a policy of adding a manditory tip to the bill with large parties. They f'ing should change this policy.

Stuart G

(38,427 posts)
59. This will do it permanently for ...former governor ..."Greg Abbott." He hasn't got a clue.
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 10:08 AM
Aug 2022

Much too stupid to know that not tipping is ....'VERY, VERY, VERY STUPID

but.......... when he loses the election, he will learn his lesson. I wonder if Abbott knows how insensitive this moment is.
.............. Abbott is total SH*T. ...AND HE PROVED IT TO EVERYONE!!!

Hotler

(11,421 posts)
60. Selfishness is a cornerstone of the repug party. I'd be surprised he didn't reach over and steal the
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 10:22 AM
Aug 2022

tip off of another table.

bullwinkle428

(20,629 posts)
62. I just went to restaurant's location-specific site to verify tipping policy :
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 11:23 AM
Aug 2022
A Suggested Gratuity of 15% - 20% is customary. The amount of gratuity is always discretionary.


https://www.rainforestcafe.com/location/rainforest-cafe-grapevine-tx/

This seems to suggest that there is no automatic tip added for parties of a given size.

EnergizedLib

(1,895 posts)
66. No, Mrs. Abbott
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 02:33 PM
Aug 2022

People like her are your husband’s constituents, not his servants.

I know a lot of things is done backwards in your state, but that’s how it goes.

Cadfael

(1,297 posts)
74. Exactly!
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 04:32 PM
Aug 2022

It means there is no tip automatically included in the bill no matter what the party size

People upthread kept quoting the website - and yet some kept “calling bullshit” - I thought it might help our more visual learners to be able to see it themselves…

Kid Berwyn

(14,904 posts)
77. In Abbott's mind, slaves always are honored to serve him.
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 04:59 PM
Aug 2022

“The best slave is the one who thinks he is free.” — Johann von Goethe

Hey, Abbott! Your days as plantation master are numbered. The slaves are waking up.

mnhtnbb

(31,389 posts)
78. Most good restaurants automatically add 18-20% tip for parties of 6 or more.
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 05:02 PM
Aug 2022

Sounds like a crap restaurant to me. Probably owned by a$$hole Republicans who aren't looking out for their wait staff.

Goodheart

(5,324 posts)
80. Different atmosphere in Texas, apparently.
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 05:18 PM
Aug 2022

The Lake Buena Vista restaurant in that chain says that an 18% tip will be automatically added to parties of six or more.

Lisa0825

(14,487 posts)
85. Most restaurants I go to add an automatic 18% tip to large parties...
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 08:11 PM
Aug 2022

I am a bit skeptical about this.

Takket

(21,568 posts)
88. the "fake no tip" story has been around before
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 10:24 PM
Aug 2022

let's just take this with a grain of salt unless someone confirms it.

Initech

(100,076 posts)
93. "He's a horrible person" - that seems to be a common denominator with Christian right politicians.
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 11:38 PM
Aug 2022

No wonder they love Trump so much.

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