Kim Jong Un?

[kentuck]

What interest did Trump really have in North Korea?

Did he try to make a deal with the Korean dictator? Did he offer to help him with his nuclear program?

After all, he got love letters from the dictator.

But, with the breaking of this story about the stolen documents, it tends to make one look at the relationship between Trump and Kim Jong Un in a different light.

Was he stealing documents way back then?

[rubbersole]

1. Time will tell.

All indications are that highly classified information was a form of currency for these treasonous grifting mofos.

[newdayneeded]

2. I thought there was

some question as to how fast his nuclear technology grew in just a matter of years. it would be interesting to know the technology extent at the end of Obama's years and then trumps years.

[gay texan]

3. Easy

He envied him. He wanted the entire nation to bend to his will.

[Johnny2X2X]

4. He admired Un

Trump admired the power of Un to have absolute authority over a whole country. It's ultimately the type of society Republicans want, one where an exceedingly small number of people live like kings and the rest of the population fights for food.

Trump is a true sociopath, the thing he probably wants more than anything is to be able to have his political enemies executed for sport.

[GuppyGal]

5. I think he blabbed to EVERYBODY

[multigraincracker]

6. Names of Western Agents in NK.

Might find some value to him.

[onethatcares]

7. the salute to the N. Korean general officer

should have been a hint.

When I hear of how badly the shitstain is treated by Democrats I ask, "Let's interchange the name President Obama with tfg" Is it treason yet?"

Newspaper headlines would be relentlessly pushing for a firing squad.

[Irish_Dem]

8. Caught red handed with stolen classified docs, ALL of Trump's behavior is now suspect.

Only the naive and foolish are not asking the same questions you are posting, kentuck.

North Korea is a pain in the ass ally of China.

Kim Jong Un owes Beijing and would have been a perfect middle man between Trump and Xi.

Xi would have paid top dollar for classified intel, especially US military capabilities in the Pacific.
And US strategy plans regarding Taiwan.

[JanMichael]

9. That's entirely possible. Use North Korea as a go between.

That way it kind of absolves China from seeking directly the information.

And yes North Korea is a pain in China's ass.

[Irish_Dem]

13. And North Korea gets a cut of the $$$ and secret intel too.

North Korea has to infuriate Beijing at times.

When Kim Jung Un starts his crazy threatening talk, the US sends nuclear submarines to the Yellow Sea and East China Sea. Not far from Beijing and China's beloved financial center, Shanghai.

You can hear Xi cussing out loud.

(BTW Trump announced these secret locations of US boomers in public once.)

[kentuck]

10. Good point.

Also, he was accusing the Bidens of taking money from the Chinese, which translated, means that is what he planned on doing.

[Irish_Dem]

14. Yes, pay careful attention to all Trump/Putin/GOP accusations. They are confessions.

[Wounded Bear]

11. trump monetizes everything he does...

Assuming he "sold" something to Un for his own profit is hardly a stretch.

[Irish_Dem]

16. Trump's very public fawning over Kim Jong Un was a huge red flag.

It meant Trump was being played big time by North Korea.

And Trump fell for it. Hook, line and sinker.

[Wounded Bear]

23. At first, I thought trump was angling for a trump hotel in pyonyang...

It seems it might be something far worse than that.

[Irish_Dem]

26. Yep, back in the days when we were foolishly naive.

We thought Trump just wanted another golf course.

The American people were played for fools.

[Hortensis]

12. Besides any specific monetary plotting, Un is an absolute authoritarian ruler

whose people are rightfully terrified into abject obedience, and adoration. He's also a renegade who refuses the constraints of international law and agreements.

As some say, that's what tRump wants. He deeply resented any constraints imposed on his power by previous treaties or simply normal cooperation with allies. All his new buds were authoritarian leaders, including those of China, Russia, Sawdi Arabia, and so on, while he did his best to offend and cut ties with leaders of liberal democracies.

An expert on authoritarian leaders said transgressions of those who get elected to a second term typically get much worse than in the first term, for the most part rightfully interpreting reelection as approval and proof that they can get away with much more.

It'd be very interesting to know the plans he and his nazi advisers have for rounding up millions of undocumented residents in concentration camps while they find places to deport the fortunate ones. Loyal electoral support has been proven, and no doubt they have a whole list of mistakes not to make the second time. Like caution and constraint.

tRump: “He’s the head of a country and I mean he is the strong head. Don’t let anyone think anything different. He speaks and his people sit up at attention. I want my people to do the same.”

[Irish_Dem]

18. There is no doubt, Trump wants what Kim Jung Un and Putin have.

Totally authoritarian control with brutal tactics, and theft of all state assets.

[Hortensis]

22. Oh, yes -- those state assets. How about our Social Security trust funds

for a start? Just looked - $2582 billion at beginning of report year. 3.45% of taxable income, so they could boost that and skim billions for years. Petro products, on and on and on.

[Irish_Dem]

24. The Putin Model: EVERYTHING belongs to him.

All state assets, all of it, every penny.

That's why outside of Moscow, the Russian people do not have indoor plumbing.

Like Rachel Maddow said, Russia is not really a country, it is a mass of land ruled by mobsters.

Part of the reason the GOP is working so hard to destroy all US institutions and agencies, is that they no longer want to fund anything, just line their own pockets.

[maxsolomon]

15. NK is the only time * felt like he was making a Deal the way he wanted to, on TV.

Because Un was blowing smoke up his ass. Con Men are easy to con.

[Iggo]

17. Assume he was stealing from Day 1.

What? You think he waited til the coast was clear? Nah, man. He hit the ground running.

[Irish_Dem]

19. The real grifting started the minute Trump won the GOP nomination.

Kushner stated in public that he was going to monetize the GOP base.

[kentuck]

20. Remember when Kushner was busted for trying to set up a secret communication channel with Putin?

Real early in his term. Nothing ever came of that?

[Irish_Dem]

21. Exactly. It was treason from Day One. And no one seemed to care.

[Wounded Bear]

25. IIRC, that was during the campaign, before trump faked taking the oath...nt

[gratuitous]

27. The former guy doesn't walk on even his own golf courses

But he walked across the border into North Korea to do an obeisance before a broadly smiling Kim. And the media couldn't contain their awe and wonder at the unprecedentedness of it all, granting Kim a legitimacy his family had craved for generations, literally.