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fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 12:06 PM Aug 2022

Can you imagine if they trace any of the secret documents to the death of an overseas informant.

The secret document investigation could lead to many more investigations. I don't think we know how bad this really is. I don't think we know how many people will be dragged into this investigation.

We still don't know what they found when they searched trumps office and home. All the documents they are talking about now are the documents he turned over before the search warrant. This is just the beginning of what could be one of the largest national security breaches ever. We simply don't know yet.

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Can you imagine if they trace any of the secret documents to the death of an overseas informant. (Original Post) fightforfreedom Aug 2022 OP
They probably already have Johnny2X2X Aug 2022 #1
Yes, also the possible charges listed in the warrant were extremely serious. fightforfreedom Aug 2022 #5
You are absolutely correct Johnny...they were absolutely concerned possibly terrified as to Demsrule86 Aug 2022 #12
Even if they had irrefutable proof of a connection between the death of an agent and the stolen pape Walleye Aug 2022 #2
That's what Frank Figliusi said. gab13by13 Aug 2022 #22
I wouldn't put it past Trump iemanja Aug 2022 #3
Spies were spotted roaming the halls of that witch-house... Justice matters. Aug 2022 #27
The alphabet agencies have to consider everything in those documents compromised. BlueTsunami2018 Aug 2022 #4
I'm sure they do figure he gave stuff away leftyladyfrommo Aug 2022 #6
You are correct, this is scary shit. fightforfreedom Aug 2022 #8
Yet I wonder how many of them still worship at the altar of MAGA exboyfil Aug 2022 #10
Yup. Gotta clean house. Joinfortmill Aug 2022 #23
THIS orangecrush Aug 2022 #30
Lest you forget... jmowreader Aug 2022 #34
How many of those Russian "accidental" deaths multigraincracker Aug 2022 #7
Hopefully, we will soon learn how many secret documents they found in the search. fightforfreedom Aug 2022 #9
We have to face the fact that we may never know all of it. Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #11
50 years down the road exboyfil Aug 2022 #13
Yep exactly. When no one cares about it anymore. Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #14
I think he allowed, even facilitated, access of foreign agents to rooms in Mar-a-Largo. skip fox Aug 2022 #15
The term of art is "dead drop" jmowreader Aug 2022 #28
Pretty much orangecrush Aug 2022 #31
Do you mean like Khashoggi? kentuck Aug 2022 #16
He could shoot a man on 5th avenue, still applies. sarcasmo Aug 2022 #17
I think we need a voice to demagogue the hell out of this exboyfil Aug 2022 #18
I have a feeling the J6 committee will cover this..if he was packing boxes Volaris Aug 2022 #20
👍 Joinfortmill Aug 2022 #25
Pure conjecture, but I wonder if a FISA court has already authorized surveilling Trump Mr. Ected Aug 2022 #19
Some day there's gonna be a movie... Joinfortmill Aug 2022 #26
Damn orangecrush Aug 2022 #32
I see indictments in Trumpy's future. Joinfortmill Aug 2022 #21
I've been worried about that .. Jarqui Aug 2022 #24
odds are they won't maxsolomon Aug 2022 #29
Robert Hanssen got agents killed. TFG should receive the same punishment as he did. sir pball Aug 2022 #33

Johnny2X2X

(19,066 posts)
1. They probably already have
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 12:08 PM
Aug 2022

The FBI raided his house for a reason, and it wasn't just that they thought classified materials were unsecure there. There was an imminent threat to national security in order for them to take these steps IMO.

Demsrule86

(68,578 posts)
12. You are absolutely correct Johnny...they were absolutely concerned possibly terrified as to
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 12:33 PM
Aug 2022

what Trump had already done, and what he planned to do with the remaining document in the future.

Walleye

(31,025 posts)
2. Even if they had irrefutable proof of a connection between the death of an agent and the stolen pape
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 12:10 PM
Aug 2022

We would never hear about it because it would be so goddamn classified. It would just be another star on the wall in the CIA. I’m sure Trump was counting on that too

iemanja

(53,032 posts)
3. I wouldn't put it past Trump
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 12:11 PM
Aug 2022

To show the documents to our adversaries, even knowing intelligence agents and assets could be killed.

Justice matters.

(6,929 posts)
27. Spies were spotted roaming the halls of that witch-house...
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 02:47 PM
Aug 2022

With cellphones. One would think they could have a lucrative party back home...

BlueTsunami2018

(3,492 posts)
4. The alphabet agencies have to consider everything in those documents compromised.
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 12:11 PM
Aug 2022

Every CI, every spy, every operation has to be considered blown. This fucking asshole has ruined decades of intelligence.

exboyfil

(17,863 posts)
10. Yet I wonder how many of them still worship at the altar of MAGA
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 12:29 PM
Aug 2022

I am convinced that FBI agents worked with Rudy and the gang in the 2016 election to torpedo Clinton. It didn't help that moron Weiner gave them a path in.

jmowreader

(50,557 posts)
34. Lest you forget...
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 08:52 PM
Aug 2022

The only thing we have right now is a list of documents Trump didn’t send to his network yet. We may never know the full extent of everything he sent.

 

fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
9. Hopefully, we will soon learn how many secret documents they found in the search.
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 12:19 PM
Aug 2022

Sometime before the election would be good.

Irish_Dem

(47,105 posts)
11. We have to face the fact that we may never know all of it.
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 12:33 PM
Aug 2022

The full truth simply cannot be divulged due to national security issues.

Also the US government does not want the world to know how incompetent and corrupt it has become.

exboyfil

(17,863 posts)
13. 50 years down the road
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 12:39 PM
Aug 2022

Kind of like when we found out about Nixon and Kissinger torpedoing the peace talks or the truth behind the Gulf of Tonkin incident. I am still awaiting the revelation that Reagan's campaign conspired with the Iranians to keep the hostages until after the election.

Irish_Dem

(47,105 posts)
14. Yep exactly. When no one cares about it anymore.
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 12:44 PM
Aug 2022

People were talking about Reagan's conspiracy with the Iranians soon after it happened, and no one really cared about it.

GOP crimes always get a pass.

skip fox

(19,359 posts)
15. I think he allowed, even facilitated, access of foreign agents to rooms in Mar-a-Largo.
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 12:44 PM
Aug 2022

That way he was not responsible for delivering the secrets, plus he could claim he was not criminally responsible ("Someone just got by us. Who knew?&quot for what was done with them.

jmowreader

(50,557 posts)
28. The term of art is "dead drop"
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 02:51 PM
Aug 2022

“Comrade Trump, you will place this week’s documents in a hotel room at Mar-a-Lago and order your staff to not enter that room. You will write down the room number. You will not use the same room twice. At the same time as the room number, you will send a tweet. If you put the documents in room 125, you will tweet at 1:25 am. We will go down the next day and check into that room.”

exboyfil

(17,863 posts)
18. I think we need a voice to demagogue the hell out of this
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 12:53 PM
Aug 2022

Link it to the entire Republican party. Everyone who voted no on impeachment in the House and Senate. Everyone who shared a platform with Trump especially after Jan. 6th.

I am thinking someone like Al Franken. Get this on Youtube, Netflix, Amazon Prime - whatever it takes.

Volaris

(10,271 posts)
20. I have a feeling the J6 committee will cover this..if he was packing boxes
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 02:04 PM
Aug 2022

As a result of his little tantrum-coup didn't work, and he KNEW he would be leaving.

It's fine by me if Liz is the stalking wolf that tears his fatass to bloody shreds... cause if that's done during the House sessions, NONE OF IT will be redacted lol.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
19. Pure conjecture, but I wonder if a FISA court has already authorized surveilling Trump
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 01:02 PM
Aug 2022

From the day he left office.

It's not like his ties to Russia prior to (and during) his presidency weren't well-documented by Robert Mueller. The spin and shitcanning nothwithstanding, there was a lot of smoke and Trump gave every indication during his days in office that he very well could be working as a foreign asset.

He was known to take classified materials on trips to adversarial countries. He met with dirty leaders in private. I'm sure the international intelligence community was well aware of the threat that Trump posed to all of us. Would it be a shock that he would be under constant surveillance since leaving office?

It might answer the question why the FBI moved so slowly. Perhaps they had ears to the ground and knew exactly what he was up to and what dangers he posed.

Jarqui

(10,125 posts)
24. I've been worried about that ..
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 02:43 PM
Aug 2022

I wouldn't be shocked in the least to find out he sold secrets for his own personal gain

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
29. odds are they won't
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 02:53 PM
Aug 2022

i doubt any foreign agents knew to look for classified documents at Maralago. it's just so stupid.

sir pball

(4,742 posts)
33. Robert Hanssen got agents killed. TFG should receive the same punishment as he did.
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 04:16 PM
Aug 2022

15 consecutive life sentences.

In the "H Unit" at ADX Florence.

Which means a 7x12' bare concrete cell, with a radio and MAYBE a TV (with pre-set programming of course) if you're an absolute model prisoner. For 23 hours a day. Your one hour out is in what's essentially an empty swimming pool with chain-link fence over the top. No human contact besides the guards – your lawyer is about the only other person who can communicate with you, and that's only via letter.

It's a special Hell reserved for terrorists and traitors, and the thought of TFG rotting there warms the cockles of my icy, dark heart.

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