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EnergizedLib

(1,895 posts)
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 01:06 PM Aug 2022

More people like this, please


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This is a perfect response to fight back against this parent, whom I’m 99.99% sure has not read every single one of these books or the pages specifying why she wants them banned.

It’s time for these people to push back and that is who we need on our boards.

Who’s the one doing the censoring and cancel culture again? Who are the real snowflakes?
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More people like this, please (Original Post) EnergizedLib Aug 2022 OP
Yep, quote chapter and verse...nt Wounded Bear Aug 2022 #1
How about Rebl2 Aug 2022 #21
Perfect response! crickets Aug 2022 #2
Absolutely perfect response, and the only one possible Warpy Aug 2022 #3
BRILLIANT. forgotmylogin Aug 2022 #4
But then the Devil will possess them and they will be all for it. LiberalLovinLug Aug 2022 #7
Indeed! calimary Aug 2022 #8
I think that might be key. forgotmylogin Aug 2022 #19
This kid is going places! Joinfortmill Aug 2022 #5
Actual kid is smarter than actual book banner. planetc Aug 2022 #6
That kid is a contender. sarge43 Aug 2022 #15
THAT'S the way to do it!!! Talitha Aug 2022 #9
Republicans want to fix imaginary problems while Democrats deal with real problems, like Lonestarblue Aug 2022 #10
Also EnergizedLib Aug 2022 #11
Watched an "animated feature" last night Hermit-The-Prog Aug 2022 #12
What I personally want EnergizedLib Aug 2022 #13
"Worthy of their respect" is where the problem comes in. ShazzieB Aug 2022 #17
Then who's doing the indoctrinating? EnergizedLib Aug 2022 #18
The parents want to do all the indoctrination themselves. ShazzieB Aug 2022 #20
We've long known who the real snowflakes are. dchill Aug 2022 #14
Your kid should be guiding Democratic messaging on this very subject... SKKY Aug 2022 #16

Warpy

(111,267 posts)
3. Absolutely perfect response, and the only one possible
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 02:22 PM
Aug 2022

Running scared from a bunch of dimwits who assemble lists of books to ban from Fakebook is a recipe for a generation of pig ignorant children who have no interest in reading because the books that were left were all dull as cold dishwater.

However, do continue to let them screech about it. It's the best way to encourage their kids to read everything their parents hate.

forgotmylogin

(7,529 posts)
4. BRILLIANT.
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 02:25 PM
Aug 2022

Every book banner needs to prove they've actually read the book they want banned and give a detailed report as to why. Not just "I heard this is about lesbians..."

calimary

(81,298 posts)
8. Indeed!
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 03:00 PM
Aug 2022

Show and tell. Show us the proof behind all your claims.

Tired of the “stir shit up” crowd! I don’t have time for these jerks anymore.

forgotmylogin

(7,529 posts)
19. I think that might be key.
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 04:17 PM
Aug 2022

So much right-wing-ism hinges on "just believe what I/FoxNews/random-rightwing-source says" and people are too lazy to do their own research and show their work.

Like Trump saying "They broke into my beautiful Mar-A-Lago resort" when they did no such thing.

Or Republicans putting Biden on blast for spending money they voted "no" for and in the next paragraph taking credit for the fruits of Federal budget increases in their state.

Lonestarblue

(9,998 posts)
10. Republicans want to fix imaginary problems while Democrats deal with real problems, like
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 03:19 PM
Aug 2022

the effects of climate warming. I read this morning that Greenland’s melting ice cap will add a foot to sea level rise. Looks like some new properties will now have oceanfront views. It’s too bad Trump was unable to buy Greenland. He could have simply told them to stop melting their ice.

EnergizedLib

(1,895 posts)
11. Also
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 03:20 PM
Aug 2022

Is it a surprise to anybody that that person running for the board has *not* heard back from the would-be book banner?

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,348 posts)
12. Watched an "animated feature" last night
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 03:21 PM
Aug 2022

Robots, from 2005.



The character "Fender" (the red robot in the clip, voice by Robin Williams) changes gender several times during the movie. That's probably sufficient reason for the NatCs to ban that movie.

EnergizedLib

(1,895 posts)
13. What I personally want
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 03:24 PM
Aug 2022

Last edited Mon Aug 29, 2022, 04:11 PM - Edit history (1)

Is for kids to learn about the LGBTQ+ community in school, to know that they exist - not to push anything sexual on them, to tell them who they should be or who they should love, but that there are people who are different than them worthy of their respect.

Just like abortion, education is not black and white. The things children learn in school are not confined simply to a textbook. You learn stuff besides just having your face down to a book all day.

ShazzieB

(16,412 posts)
17. "Worthy of their respect" is where the problem comes in.
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 04:06 PM
Aug 2022

I'm with you, but the last thing these nincompoops want is for their kids to be taught that the LGBTQ+ community is worthy of anyone's respect. That's why they want all those books banned in the first place. They don't want their kids exposed to any ideas that might be in conflict with the hate and intolerance they're being taught at home.

Ugh, I can't believe I just typed all that. Depressing as it may be, though, I believe that IS how they think.

EnergizedLib

(1,895 posts)
18. Then who's doing the indoctrinating?
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 04:11 PM
Aug 2022

Indoctrinating with hate, bigotry and prejudices is something we’re supposed to be above.

I’m know I’m not, and I’m not sure anybody is actually anybody is actually asking anybody to be LGBTQ+, just to respect those who are like they would anybody else.

I don’t have kids. If I did, I’d want them informed and educated above all else.

Chances are, I’m not qualified to do the job of these bigoted parents, what’s the likelihood they’re qualified to do a teacher’s job?

ShazzieB

(16,412 posts)
20. The parents want to do all the indoctrination themselves.
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 05:02 PM
Aug 2022

With help from whatever church they attend.

Again, I agree with you about what kids should be taught. But the people who want to ban all these books want themselves and others like themselves to be able to indoctrinate their kids as they see fit, and they don't want the schools to expose their kids to any ideas they themselves disapprove of.

These people think being gay or trans--anything other than cis and het--is a choice, an erroneous and "sinful" choice. I think that they believe all children need to be protected from anything that might influence them to make the "wrong choice" about their own sexually or gender identity, and that includes books that portray being LGBTQ+ as anything other than wrong, deluded, and unhealthy.

OF COURSE they are wrong (dangerously and profoundly so). But they are convinced that they are in the right (even though they know lots of people disagree with them). They also elieve that removing all the books that portray or even imply anything semi-positive about LGBTQ+ people is right and necessary to prevent children from being "led astray."

Remember, they think the whole thing is a "choice," not something innate (like skin color). They believe that those who don't want to experience discrimination or persecution for being gay, bi, trans, etc., can simply "choose" not to be.

Yes, this is an extreme mindset, but these book burners ARE extremists of the worst kind. To do battle with them successfully, we need to understand exactly where they are coming from, as ugly a place as it is.

It sucks to be them. They are hateful, but they are also terrified of many, many things. That terror is what makes them so dangerous, even more so than just the hate alone.

dchill

(38,501 posts)
14. We've long known who the real snowflakes are.
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 03:24 PM
Aug 2022

Hint: if you're a multi-billionaire and waking up in the morning is like a gut punch, you're a...

SKKY

(11,810 posts)
16. Your kid should be guiding Democratic messaging on this very subject...
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 03:52 PM
Aug 2022

...all we have to do is ask for specifics, and then enjoy the ensuing crickets.

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