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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTFG is as corrupt as humanly possible--nothing off limits.
I doubt anyone is more corrupt.
In discussions with various people I have heard grumbles about yes, he has done corrupt things but he hasn't killed anyone. I guess the point is to suggest that there are lots of worse people.
As the 'espionage' story keeps unfolding new details there seems to be a shift in those defending him. Selling out our national security has quite a stench to it. He may be responsible for deaths of Americans, including venerated ones.
How about all those who died unnecessarily from Covid-19? TFG's corruption included malfeasance that disabled our national response and the deaths of thousands who would not have died if he had not been so subhuman. As far as TFG's defenders are concerned that all was a hoax, Fauci's fault, a purge of useless eaters, and/or the list goes on. Not TFG's fault.
How about the separation of more than 5000 children, including infants and toddlers from their parents? We know TFG accompanied his wife who boldly wore a jacket emblazoned with "I don't care. Do you?" There have been suicides, murders in Mexico and gawd knows what else as the result of this. For many of those children I can imagine their lives have been a living death since.
Then there is Epstein's so-called suicide under the nose of TFG's AG. Interestingly, Epstein had been meeting with a lawyer while incarcerated who happened to be TFG and Bannon connected, David Schoen. The day before Epstein was found lifeless he had declared fiercely to that lawyer that he was going to fight with all he had to regain his freedom. Epstein held lots of damaging info about many, including TFG.
TFG routinely threatened people including heads of State and officials. He operates like a mob boss.
Who knows how many people have died because of TFG directly or indirectly?
samsingh
(17,599 posts)brush
(53,782 posts)with Kim Jong-un, Putin, Assad, and Orban. And if given absolute, dictatorial powers he'd be right there with Pol Pot, Idi Amin, Stalin, Genghis Khan, Hitler, and the worst of the South African apartheid rulers.
Initech
(100,079 posts)Or at least attempt to. Seriously, nothing is off the table. And I mean nothing.
RKP5637
(67,109 posts)to overthrow the US government. And, I imagine as more of this is investigated a lot more of his disgusting cult will be coming out of the woodwork.
brush
(53,782 posts)should've been enough for all Americans to absolutely wash their hands of him. But no, we've got thousands of sycophants still backing the crook, now even with the document theft and specter of him having possibly sold out our spies, many still want to kiss his crooked ass.
There's something wrong in how these idiots' brains work, or don't work.
RKP5637
(67,109 posts)rather interesting psychological study, how one could be so programmed to simply brush away all of the endless facts. It's bizarre, scary and concerning how he could maintain such a hold. He has the earmarking of material for a despotic leader in a tyrannical totalitarian country with a ruthless dictator. He's an extremely dangerous character.
Irish_Dem
(47,114 posts)That is now more than apparent.
Brainfodder
(6,423 posts)Future videos of people crying over him: priceless comedy!
Future videos of people celebrating: won't even watch, too busy enjoying the moment my own way!
He did give the whole thing away caught orange handed with the paperwork!
Arguing over the seizing them has reached the level of Mr. Magoo?
Brainfodder
(6,423 posts)Future videos of people crying over him: priceless comedy!
Future videos of people celebrating: won't even watch, too busy enjoying the moment my own way!
He did give the whole thing away caught orange handed with the paperwork!
Arguing over the seizing of them has reached the level of Mr. Magoo?
IrishAfricanAmerican
(3,816 posts)BlueIdaho
(13,582 posts)It will be a Krakatoa sized explosion. I predict he will take whats left of the Republican Party with him in the end.
pandr32
(11,586 posts)He is a leaking gas next to a pilot light. He has always managed to wiggle himself free, but not this time and so many others have thrown in with him voluntarily or reluctantly. Pretty much the whole Republican Party now.
wiggs
(7,814 posts)on how to fight, rally, flee, blackmail his way out of this.
the Lindells, Bannons, Manaforts, Putins, Millers, Flynns and others coming out of the woodwork are giving him ideas. Which will he choose?
pandr32
(11,586 posts)He really is a creature of habit and shallowness.
I would think he will do as he has always done because it has always gotten him out of a tight spot, but this time his public tantrums, pay-offs, threats, lies, refusal to co-operate, family and business associates, diversions, lawyers, scapegoating, turning the table, intimidation, and blackmail won't help him. He has gone way too far and left too much of a mess.