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Atticus

(15,124 posts)
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 04:28 PM Aug 2022

I guess I'm just slow, but I have a question.

On my TV machine, I have heard "maybe" after "maybe" as to just WHY Trump stole government documents---many highly classified and dealing with national security.

"Maybe" he just wanted them as keepsakes or trophies.

"Maybe" he wanted to use them to---SNORT!---write his memoirs.

"Maybe" he wanted to use them to defend himself against liberal slanders.

"Maybe" he was just so stupid he really believed the ass-kissers who assured him that, "of course", those were his "personal papers".

But, ladies and gentlemen, the one "maybe" no one has had the sand to propose is "MAYBE HE REALLY IS A TRAITOROUS SONOFABITCH WHO INTENDED TO EXCHANGE THEM FOR BAZILLIONS OF DOLLARS, LUCRATIVE FAVORS OR, PERHAPS, SANCTUARY!"

Why is that "maybe" off limits?

Like I said, "maybe" I'm just slow.

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I guess I'm just slow, but I have a question. (Original Post) Atticus Aug 2022 OP
The media is covering for one of the most dangerous men in America. Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #1
I don't know that the media is "covering" for him.. whathehell Aug 2022 #6
They "cover" for all Rs KS Toronado Aug 2022 #14
They have to weigh that against other factors, including audience whathehell Aug 2022 #33
I agree 100% what the hell. We know what we know from the media. The MSM are not "covering" Martin68 Aug 2022 #34
..Great minds think alike, Martin68! whathehell Aug 2022 #36
By Dog, I think you nailed it. Evolve Dammit Aug 2022 #28
Number 1 on your list I would believe, he is entitled enough to believe he could just take them. Thomas Hurt Aug 2022 #2
None of those statements are mutually exclusive Bucky Aug 2022 #3
The truth will out. Trump and his minions are such bad criminals that proof will soon surface that LaMouffette Aug 2022 #4
I'd add the bottom line is there is no acceptable or mitigating reason for doing it. MLAA Aug 2022 #5
eventually EVIDENCE will show what he had planned.... WarGamer Aug 2022 #7
Says The bank robber: malaise Aug 2022 #8
The last one. Meadowoak Aug 2022 #9
And MAYBE he was planning to hold them hostage Warpy Aug 2022 #10
DING! DING! DING! We have a winner. TomSlick Aug 2022 #32
nope. you're not slow. barbtries Aug 2022 #11
Fuck 'em and turn off the TV Cozmo Aug 2022 #12
He always thought he was above the law. lpbk2713 Aug 2022 #13
The truth will soon come tavernier Aug 2022 #15
and concerned. SouthernDem4ever Aug 2022 #29
I think you may be on to something... Wounded Bear Aug 2022 #16
Repugs always swear that Trump's 'the smartest president ever' - except when it comes to high crimes peppertree Aug 2022 #17
No maybe about it. FuzzyRabbit Aug 2022 #18
Maybe he's a full-blown Russian Agent AND spanone Aug 2022 #19
Or maybe he already did. MLAA Aug 2022 #20
Remember it took mainstream media 3 1/2 years to iluvtennis Aug 2022 #21
I'd add at least one: Jarqui Aug 2022 #22
I'm with you! Joinfortmill Aug 2022 #23
Maybe free toilet paper? moondust Aug 2022 #24
No, he steals that by sticking it to his shoe. nt Atticus Aug 2022 #25
Maybe I wonder HTF he is still a free manbaby? Brainfodder Aug 2022 #26
Perhaps because libel and slander laws might be used against those who make or publish such... Jack the Greater Aug 2022 #27
has he won any of his lawsuits? SouthernDem4ever Aug 2022 #30
Yes Jack the Greater Aug 2022 #38
He won 1,679 lawsuits versus 139 losses involving his casino operations Jack the Greater Aug 2022 #39
You're far from slow. Agent Chaos caused all of this and we don't know what happened, or is still Evolve Dammit Aug 2022 #31
After 6 years, why anyone in media gives Trump "the benefit of the doubt" is beyond me. Beartracks Aug 2022 #35
I've heard numerous TV personalities suggest... Septua Aug 2022 #37
U nailed it Cherokee100 Aug 2022 #40
Maybe The Bopper Aug 2022 #41
I think you have IT ALL IN CAPS! lees1975 Aug 2022 #42
If there is even the flimsiest, circumstantial evidence that suggests a Democrat ThoughtCriminal Aug 2022 #43
I always have questions ihaveaquestion Aug 2022 #44
Sorry no one of importance is going down. crabbymanut Aug 2022 #45
Care to make a wager??? I bet 45 is indicted for a last one crime by Aug, next year. marble falls Aug 2022 #46
I say he is indicted too! Demsrule86 Sep 2022 #47

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
6. I don't know that the media is "covering" for him..
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 05:30 PM
Aug 2022

They do continually include the possibility that he may be "monetizing" the documents. Given that the DOJ hasn't finished its investigation, it may be why they've not yet brought out "the big guns".

KS Toronado

(17,237 posts)
14. They "cover" for all Rs
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 06:01 PM
Aug 2022

Because they'll pay them back with tax breaks & loop holes. They see us as unfriendly to their bottom line.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
33. They have to weigh that against other factors, including audience
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 07:25 PM
Aug 2022

share. If MSNBC, for instance, did nothing but "cover" for Republicans, they wouldn't have the audience they have.

Martin68

(22,801 posts)
34. I agree 100% what the hell. We know what we know from the media. The MSM are not "covering"
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 07:31 PM
Aug 2022

for anybody. But until an investigation is complete and released to the public, they can only speculate and guess about motivations in many cases.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
36. ..Great minds think alike, Martin68!
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 07:43 PM
Aug 2022

I believe there is corporate influence on the news, but there are other considerations as well.

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
2. Number 1 on your list I would believe, he is entitled enough to believe he could just take them.
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 04:43 PM
Aug 2022

Numbers 2-4 are bullshit excuses and propaganda for the cultist thugs.

Last one is entirely possible to my mind, it will just take a lot more evidence to prove it.

Bucky

(54,013 posts)
3. None of those statements are mutually exclusive
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 04:51 PM
Aug 2022

The actions alone are treasonous. As a mentally immature egomaniac, he might've rationalized to himself (or to inquisitive staffers) that retaining the classified documents was for memoirs, but kept them with the possibility of future smears against opponents. He can pass for stupid even while having a subrational curiosity and impulsive egotism to holding onto his favorite classified docs like their a kid's teddy bear. Collectively these actions are still illegal and disloyal and any reasonable human would know that retaining them was wrong. He's a grown up, literally speaking, and needs to be prosecuted. I don't give a shit about his subconscience motivations. He broke the law and needs to pay.

LaMouffette

(2,031 posts)
4. The truth will out. Trump and his minions are such bad criminals that proof will soon surface that
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 04:59 PM
Aug 2022

he has sold secrets to Russia, China, Iran, Saudi Arabia, North Korea, et al.

But I wonder when that happens if the media will continue to cover for him, even as his blubbery, treasonous ass is carted off to jail.

MLAA

(17,290 posts)
5. I'd add the bottom line is there is no acceptable or mitigating reason for doing it.
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 05:01 PM
Aug 2022

It was illegal and he needs to be charged and given an opportunity to defend the indefensible.

malaise

(269,004 posts)
8. Says The bank robber:
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 05:37 PM
Aug 2022

Maybe I want to admire a million dollars
Lock Slobby the fuck up. Sick of him is mild for my feelings.

Warpy

(111,261 posts)
10. And MAYBE he was planning to hold them hostage
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 05:51 PM
Aug 2022

and threatening to release them to enemy intelligence organizations should he be charged with any crime.

However, I think he's a toddler screaming "MINE MINE MINE!"

I just suspect there are those around him who recognized the potential sales potential amount the top secret docs.

TomSlick

(11,098 posts)
32. DING! DING! DING! We have a winner.
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 07:20 PM
Aug 2022

TFG thought the classified material was his get-of-jail-free card. "I'd hate to see all this classified stuff go missing if I'm ever charged with something"

lpbk2713

(42,757 posts)
13. He always thought he was above the law.
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 05:59 PM
Aug 2022


He did it because he could.

And there's no doubt he saw the opportunity for personal gain in his actions as well.

peppertree

(21,635 posts)
17. Repugs always swear that Trump's 'the smartest president ever' - except when it comes to high crimes
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 06:08 PM
Aug 2022

Then, his IQ suddenly drops 50 points.

As Andy Rooney might say, why is that?

FuzzyRabbit

(1,967 posts)
18. No maybe about it.
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 06:08 PM
Aug 2022

"HE REALLY IS A TRAITOROUS SONOFABITCH WHO INTENDED TO EXCHANGE THEM FOR BAZILLIONS OF DOLLARS, LUCRATIVE FAVORS OR, PERHAPS, SANCTUARY!"

spanone

(135,834 posts)
19. Maybe he's a full-blown Russian Agent AND
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 06:14 PM
Aug 2022

MAYBE HE REALLY IS A TRAITOROUS SONOFABITCH WHO INTENDED TO EXCHANGE THEM FOR BAZILLIONS OF DOLLARS, LUCRATIVE FAVORS OR, PERHAPS, SANCTUARY!"

iluvtennis

(19,858 posts)
21. Remember it took mainstream media 3 1/2 years to
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 06:33 PM
Aug 2022

stop using “alternative facts” and call them LIES.
3 1/2 years of deferring to the POS simply because he had the title of POTUS.

Jarqui

(10,125 posts)
22. I'd add at least one:
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 06:39 PM
Aug 2022

It is something like this from the top post:
"Maybe" he wanted to use them to defend himself against liberal slanders.

but I'd word it this way:
"Maybe" he wanted to use them to protect himself against prosecution for obstruction or a crime or people finding out after the statute of limitations which could hurt his re-election chances.

For example there might be stuff on Trump-Russia in there. Or Trump-Ukraine extortion. Or Trump-Jan 6th. Or stuff we don't even know about.

There could be quite a debate about his impeachment docs because the government paid for his lawyers - who were more like White House council and therefore, not personal lawyers entitled to attorney-client privilege:
https://www.emptywheel.net/2022/08/29/one-big-potentially-pending-question-what-happens-to-trumps-impeachment-1-0-papers/

Trump is all about Trump. He did this for a reason that would benefit Trump.

The fact that he seemed so surprised by the search warrant and he's going crazy with his messaging all over the place means there is a good chance they got some evidence he really did not want them to see.

Brainfodder

(6,423 posts)
26. Maybe I wonder HTF he is still a free manbaby?
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 06:56 PM
Aug 2022

Last edited Mon Aug 29, 2022, 07:33 PM - Edit history (1)

Reportedly said today on Truth Social that he should be reinstated as President immediately due to Hunter Biden's Laptop scandal being hidden before the election? [more likely asked for new election immediately, just as silly?]

Mirrors Stormy Daniels scandal without the TOAD stuff?

As if this is the first or last thing hidden before an election, what a sad desperate jackass about to be arrested?













Jack the Greater

(601 posts)
27. Perhaps because libel and slander laws might be used against those who make or publish such...
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 07:02 PM
Aug 2022

...statements. Trump is a litigious SOB. Just a wild guess.

Evolve Dammit

(16,733 posts)
31. You're far from slow. Agent Chaos caused all of this and we don't know what happened, or is still
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 07:17 PM
Aug 2022

unfolding. Never have we had a "president" who wants to destroy it all, or sell/give it all, until now. Uncharted. And he is somehow given a wide berth as being victimized by the evil FBI. How far we have fallen.

Septua

(2,256 posts)
37. I've heard numerous TV personalities suggest...
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 08:12 PM
Aug 2022

..Trump had nefarious intentions in mind for the documents. After all, that is the primary concern and why the 'damage assessment' is taking place. He may have already shared some data with the wrong people.

No telling what he has told Putin. Has everyone forgotten Trump's dream of a Trump Tower in Moscow?

"The Department of Justice (DOJ) and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI) are working together to facilitate a classification review of relevant materials, including those recovered during the search," Haines wrote, adding that the review will be conducted in a way that "does not unduly interfere with DOJ's ongoing criminal investigation."


https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2022/08/27/Trump-Mar-a-lago-intelligence-DOJ/8221661626716/

lees1975

(3,859 posts)
42. I think you have IT ALL IN CAPS!
Tue Aug 30, 2022, 01:55 PM
Aug 2022


Personally, I think anything of significance in there has already been copied and sold. The Russians claim they've seen most of it and while they can be liars as much as he is, why would they say that if they didn't already have them? If they didn't, then they'd be quiet about it.

ThoughtCriminal

(14,047 posts)
43. If there is even the flimsiest, circumstantial evidence that suggests a Democrat
Tue Aug 30, 2022, 02:50 PM
Aug 2022

or a family member, did something sketchy, the outrage machine goes into full, worst case speculation mode.

See:

Hunter Biden's laptop
Hillary Clinton's email server
Whitewater

But when there is direct, smoking gun evidence that a Republican is committing massive fraud, corruption, sexual assault, and even treason, we have to tip-toe around the blindingly obvious.


ihaveaquestion

(2,539 posts)
44. I always have questions
Tue Aug 30, 2022, 03:15 PM
Aug 2022

so maybe I'm also slow ...

Trump is a grifter by nature, so I automatically assume he's looking for what he can get from whomever or by whatever means necessary. Somehow, some way, this is a con.

 

crabbymanut

(4 posts)
45. Sorry no one of importance is going down.
Tue Aug 30, 2022, 03:29 PM
Aug 2022

There is no innocent till proven guilty, unless you have money. Trump is not going to jail. I hate to say it because I am a Democrat but its true. WE have big issues with our system and no one willing to make a change.

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