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I think everyone pretty much sensed it after this weekend when the GOPs angriest mouthpieces suddenly got quiet.
I joked with a friend at the NYT On Sunday night saying Id love to see the group chat from the so-called sane Republicans. I wonder if theyre having THAT meeting like the GOP did before they sent their representatives up the hill to speak to Nixon the week he resigned?
Said friend noted that the so-called sane members of the GOP hierarchy (McConnell, Grassley, Graham) have more than likely been briefed on what 45 had in terms of those documents, whos implicated in their theft and misuse, and who and WHATS been damaged. Not just the Republicans being briefed, but the Democratic members of the senate intelligence committee.
And then?
That NYT editorial calling for 45s indictment.
Then we had Lindseys freak out over what would happen IF his Kompromat Keeper was to be indicted.
He seemed really upset. LOL. About an if. I mean
why would he speculate on THAT? 🤔
Next, you had Ben Shapiro effectively pitching The Dotard over the side.
From Murdochs NY Post
The founder of the Daily Wire news site and the host of the daily podcast The Ben Shapiro Show suggested that the GOP should nominate a non-Trump candidate in 2024 to make it harder for Democrats to appeal to independent voters.
There is a reason Democrats are eager to keep Trump at the center of the conversation: half of independents say Trump is a major factor in their vote, and theyre breaking 4-1 for the Democrats, Shapiro tweeted. Republicans shouldnt play that game. If they do, theyre cruising for a bruising.
Drudge has been leading with pics of 45 in an orange jumpsuit, with a rolling headline reading Indictment Watch and todays blaring Dementing Don over his rants on Truth Social for the last 36 hours.
Weve gotten the news about the internals from the GOP this cycle and even the words from Mitchs wattled mouth werent good. The Senate looks like it may hold and theres apparently emerging paths for the House to possibly, once-impossibly do the same. Independents are breaking 4-1 for the incumbent party. An absolute break from the norm, and the blame is laid at the Dobbs decision AND a referendum on 45 even though hes not on the ticket.
Then today? Murdochs NY Post editorial:
Attorney General Merrick Garlands raid on Mar-a-Lago has ex-President Donald Trump back in the news. Thats a problem for Republicans, who need to move beyond him,"
It went further. The current dynamics SHOULD make for a Republican landslide" in the 2022 midterm elections.
"But if the focus is on Trump instead, enraged Democrats will unite, pause their intercine warring while independents will abstain or vote against the GOP."
Theyre using words like albatross and boat anchor to describe him.
It feels like people who are supposed to know things know SOMETHING about what that Mar-A-Lago visit was fully about, and theyre trying to get upwind of where the sh*t is headed.
It started with that sudden quiet this weekend.
Theres a shift in the air and it aint just fall coming in.
Something is UP.
Strap in, people
Claustrum
(4,846 posts)And you forgot the freak-out TFG is having on his truth social. I know he rant all the time but he seems to be amplifying it today.
Wounded Bear
(58,704 posts)Hell, the original classified docs were identified in January, then another tranche in Jun. The August haul might not have reached the Intel Committees yet, but the earlier ones surely have.
underpants
(182,876 posts)I thought the MAGAs hate him. Must be enough non-MAGA Republicans out there.
certainot
(9,090 posts)to feed limbaugh and sons. breitbart had a heart attack and bannon took over.
breitbart took over the drudge role - basically the kremlin took over control of rw radio through limbaugh.....US deep state got took. i'll bet there are pics of limbaugh playing golf on trump courses with russians.
is drudge going to make a comeback now that limbaugh rots?
bannon needs to talk about breitbart
blogslug
(38,015 posts)T H E Y D O N' T N E E D H I M A N Y M O R E
Kid Berwyn
(14,953 posts)Yeah, make for a landslide all right a Democratic one.
3Hotdogs
(12,405 posts)Keep him and they get more of what they've already gotten.
AND THEN, there's the issue of abortion. Keep him or can him, that's the real albatross hangi --- it was around their necks, but in May, it dropped. The bird is now wrapped around their balls and biting hard, looking for a lunch snack.
cilla4progress
(24,763 posts)CONCUR!!
Ellipsis
(9,124 posts)I would agree.
Great synopsis.
The question is... before or after Labor Day.
BWdem4life
(1,690 posts)Ya, they're worried.
rubbersole
(6,723 posts)The August, September, October surprise. tee-hee.
Warpy
(111,338 posts)I've waited all my life to see a Donnybrook on the floor of the Republican convention and 2024 is shaping up to be the year.
sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)czarjak
(11,289 posts)Marcuse
(7,506 posts)JMCKUSICK
(218 posts)I've always wondered why Lindsey Graham is so close to TFG. This scares the shit out of me BTW. Graham is one of the gang of eight and if I'm not mistaken, Minority leader in Senate judiciary committee.
Is it too far a leap to wonder outloud if Graham is keeping Trump in the loop?
Adding that I'm talking about Senate Intel committee. My bad
LowerManhattanite
(2,390 posts)45 has lost his security clearance. If Graham is sharing intel-based info with himfor whatever reason hes in DEEP SH*T too. I would hope that with all of his fecklessness, his duplicity and lily-livered-ness that he would hold his tongue on classified matters with someone who has had their clearance revoked.
waddirum
(979 posts)He is minority leader of the Senate Judiciary committee, not the Intelligence committee.
BadgerMom
(2,771 posts)Am I missing something? Are we warring with one another? Is that how Justice Jackson was put on the SC? Is that how the first gun legislation in years was passed? Our warring didnt get in the way of passage of the Inflation Reduction Act. Im glad the President is standing tall and pushing back on this malarkey. The right just cant stand the fact that we Democrats are in array.
halfulglas
(1,654 posts)Supposedly we are always divided progressives against other dems, etc. and we can't get out of our own way. They kinda forgot how we united to elect Biden and most of us are still quite pleased with the results,even though for most of us (myself included) Biden wasn't our first choice, and I'm pretty sure most other Dems are feeling the same.
I don't think we can convince them we aren't at war with each other, but maybe that's an advantage for us.
stage left
(2,966 posts)as sane. If he's sane, God help us.
LowerManhattanite
(2,390 posts)So-called saneLOL
Jon King
(1,910 posts)The top Repubs know Trump is done, the DOJ filing laid out how his passports and other personal items were mixed in with top secret documents. He is done for, likely indicted, but nonetheless would get destroyed in an election in every state that voted against him last time.
So now they pivot to Desantis and hope to keep the Trump base.
UTUSN
(70,730 posts)Bev54
(10,071 posts)LowerManhattanite
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So-called sane.
Indykatie
(3,697 posts)malaise
(269,157 posts)Rec
onetexan
(13,058 posts)What galls me is this judge's decision lean on allowing this so-called special master given the con has no standing to file such a claim. Besides, who the heck is this judge to make such a call?
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,413 posts)Roe, Roe, Roe your vote
against theocracy!
Republicans revoke your rights
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Johnny2X2X
(19,114 posts)These are long established political operatives with their own sources in the DOJ and their own security clearances.
But they are also America hating scumbags, they're just trying to gauge whether or not they can make the reveals incremental enough to still be able to defend Trump. They need Trump to have a prayer in November.
Until now, I've been under the assumption that the DOJ knew these documents were either being shopped or being exposed to foreign nationals, that was the urgency for the raid. But I'm not so sure anymore, these were stored so carelessly that they could not be allowed to remain unsecured. That's probably going to be a line for the GOP on defending Trump or not, if it's found out that Trump shopped these he will be abandoned. But if it's carelessly storing them, the GOP will stand by him.
Pluvious
(4,315 posts)I speculate that LG has been told by The Groper - in no uncertain tears and clarity - that if I go down, youre going down with me.
inthewind21
(4,616 posts)That's wishful thinking. They've lost GAS PRICES GAS PRICES. They've lost THE ECONOMY THE ECONOMY. They've lost LAW AND ORDER LAW AND ORDER. And.... they are swimming upstream through the southern floods over Roe. Trump is just the icing on the cake!