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applegrove

(118,767 posts)
Tue Aug 30, 2022, 11:21 PM Aug 2022

John Fetterman Will Skip First Debate

John Fetterman Will Skip First Debate

August 30, 2022 at 11:05 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard 5 Comments

https://politicalwire.com/2022/08/30/john-fetterman-will-skip-first-debate/https://politicalwire.com/2022/08/30/john-fetterman-will-skip-first-debate/

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“Pennsylvania U.S. Senate candidate John Fetterman (R) said he won’t participate in a debate against his opponent Mehmet Oz (R) during the first week of September, citing his ongoing recovery from a recent stroke,” The Hill reports.

“Fetterman in his announcement also called out Oz’s campaign over a mocking statement it released earlier that day in which it listed several ‘concessions’ it would make if the Democrat agreed to a debate. Among them was payment for ‘additional medical personnel [Fetterman] might need to have on standby.’”

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John Fetterman Will Skip First Debate (Original Post) applegrove Aug 2022 OP
Is there a doctor in the house? keithbvadu2 Aug 2022 #1
One of Canada's best PMs was born with aphasia. He kept us out of applegrove Aug 2022 #3
Not a good look. Beautiful Disaster Aug 2022 #2
He currently has a disability. He can think fine. applegrove Aug 2022 #4
So, what's stopping him from attending the debate? Beautiful Disaster Aug 2022 #6
His disability affects his communication in the debate format. applegrove Aug 2022 #8
I see. I still don't think it's a good look by him. Beautiful Disaster Aug 2022 #10
Just because he doesn't want the same timeline means nothing questionseverything Aug 2022 #14
He doesn't owe Oz anything - but he does owe the voters something. Beautiful Disaster Aug 2022 #15
There is no skipping because no timeframe has been agreed to questionseverything Aug 2022 #17
Has he proposed a different time to debate? Beautiful Disaster Aug 2022 #19
Thanks for Your Concern! DarthDem Aug 2022 #5
No problem. Beautiful Disaster Aug 2022 #7
Nonsense, I had a stroke, and I know from experience, you need Meadowoak Aug 2022 #9
Nothing nonsense about what I said. Beautiful Disaster Aug 2022 #13
that is a long time, I was thinking it was about a month ago. But I think he'll Meadowoak Aug 2022 #18
I hope so. I am nervous about Georgia and don't want to become nervous about PA. Beautiful Disaster Aug 2022 #21
Welcome to the big tent that is The DU Stinky The Clown Aug 2022 #20
Thank you. Beautiful Disaster Aug 2022 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author budkin Aug 2022 #11
Has Fetterman proposed a debate date later in SharonClark Aug 2022 #12
Nothingburgers for sale. 9 weeks before Nov 7. Tetrachloride Aug 2022 #16

applegrove

(118,767 posts)
3. One of Canada's best PMs was born with aphasia. He kept us out of
Tue Aug 30, 2022, 11:37 PM
Aug 2022

the Iraq War and out of subprime mortgages. Sometimes seeing the basics without the language icing on the cake is a good thing. Fetterman reminds me of him before he had a stroke. A good egg is a good egg.

 

Beautiful Disaster

(667 posts)
2. Not a good look.
Tue Aug 30, 2022, 11:34 PM
Aug 2022

If he's not capable of attending a debate because of his stroke, it raises the question whether he's capable of even being senator.

Oz's response is childish but if Fetterman is that sick to debate, I fail to see how he can effectively deflect concerns that he should even be running at this point.

 

Beautiful Disaster

(667 posts)
6. So, what's stopping him from attending the debate?
Tue Aug 30, 2022, 11:40 PM
Aug 2022

I guess I'm confused. If his current disability is severe enough that he's unable to attend a two hour debate, how can he be expected to attend to the senate matters? Or is he just going to work remote until he's 100% recovered?

 

Beautiful Disaster

(667 posts)
10. I see. I still don't think it's a good look by him.
Tue Aug 30, 2022, 11:46 PM
Aug 2022

I can't in good faith attack Herschel Walker for refusing to debate Warnock and give Fetterman a pass. It's tough he may struggle articulating his thoughts but I feel debates are always important and will never agree that candidates should skip 'em beyond extreme circumstances and I don't feel this is one.

But I'm also not his campaign chair. So, they obviously feel confident in his actions. I hope so!

 

Beautiful Disaster

(667 posts)
15. He doesn't owe Oz anything - but he does owe the voters something.
Tue Aug 30, 2022, 11:53 PM
Aug 2022

Skipping the debates is never a good look, regardless of the justification. Just look at Georgia with Warnock and Walker.

Debates are important and I will always side on the argument that no candidate should ever skip 'em. Regardless of whatever you and I think, tho, it'll be those voters who determine if they're okay with Fetterman skipping the debate. If they are, no worries. But if he starts to drop in the polls, well...worry.

 

Beautiful Disaster

(667 posts)
19. Has he proposed a different time to debate?
Tue Aug 30, 2022, 11:59 PM
Aug 2022

I know a couple Nexstar Media Inc local news stations proposed a debate for October, where Oz has accepted - but Fetterman has not.

I hope he will be there for that one.

Meadowoak

(5,556 posts)
9. Nonsense, I had a stroke, and I know from experience, you need
Tue Aug 30, 2022, 11:45 PM
Aug 2022

6 to 8 weeks to be back to normal. The Republicans would just love to have video clips of Fetterman slurring his words a bit. They would doctor that video to make him look mental. Give him a couple more weeks, he'll be fine.

 

Beautiful Disaster

(667 posts)
13. Nothing nonsense about what I said.
Tue Aug 30, 2022, 11:51 PM
Aug 2022

It's a legitimate concern any time a candidate skips a debate.

By the way, Fetterman had a stroke around May 17th - or 20 weeks or so out from the currently proposed debate.

I just hope he doesn't slip in the polls. But they obviously have confidence he won't.

Meadowoak

(5,556 posts)
18. that is a long time, I was thinking it was about a month ago. But I think he'll
Tue Aug 30, 2022, 11:58 PM
Aug 2022

be fine. Pennsylvanians can relate to him, he's one of them. Oz is just an oddball.

 

Beautiful Disaster

(667 posts)
22. Thank you.
Wed Aug 31, 2022, 12:01 AM
Aug 2022

I promise I am not trying to rile people up - but with how close things are in Georgia, I don't want to see things tighten in PA, either.

Fetterman has controlled this race nicely - I hope his campaign has weighed the risks appropriately and determined this is the right decision.

Response to applegrove (Original post)

SharonClark

(10,014 posts)
12. Has Fetterman proposed a debate date later in
Tue Aug 30, 2022, 11:50 PM
Aug 2022

the campaign, such as the second half of October? That would give him more time to recover.

Tetrachloride

(7,865 posts)
16. Nothingburgers for sale. 9 weeks before Nov 7.
Tue Aug 30, 2022, 11:54 PM
Aug 2022

If people are pro-choice in abortion rights, cutting some slack on other medical issues is the same thing. Decision is by the patient with advice of doctors.

A family member had a stroke and is back at work after an appropriate time.

Call me after equinox.

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