DOJ filing includes some pictures of documents

[Nevilledog]

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NEWS: DOJ's new filing includes. photo of the classified documents found at Mar-a-Lago on Aug. 8.

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.618763/gov.uscourts.flsd.618763.41.1_1.pdf…
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And if you look closely, you can see the HCS marking for human source intelligence. https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.618763/gov.uscourts.flsd.618763.48.0.pdf…

[tanyev]

1. A bunch of framed magazine covers off to the side. Effing narcissist.

[Beetwasher.]

2. He's Beyond Fucked, Looks Like a Crack House

[crickets]

3. Well, that's what they look like.

There's no escaping how real this is, how obvious it is that he should never, ever have walked away with documents like these, much less stored them in a poorly secured basement room next to the pool.

Rage. With a little nausea on the side at realizing the implications all over again.

[Nevilledog]

4. Oooh.... This is juicy

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The former President’s counsel explicitly prohibited the government personnel from opening or looking inside any of the boxes that remained in the storage room
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8:49 PM · Aug 30, 2022

[crickets]

5. Obstruction. Christina Bobb is screwn.

So are tfg, Kash Patel, and anyone else who was rummaging around in there who knew full well what they had. Also, isn't there video of boxes being moved from the storage room after tfg et al were told not to move them?

[Nevilledog]

6. Man..... He's fucked

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DOJ says FBI claimed his passports (before returning them) because they were in the same desk drawer as classified documents and the warrant authorized the seizure of "collectively stored or found together" documents.
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DOJ says the government found "more than twice the amount" of documents with classification markings than Trump had previously turned over, including "over one hundred unique documents."
8:47 PM · Aug 30, 2022

[crickets]

14. FBI took pictures (with rulers for scale) and precise notes of exactly

which papers were in the drawer with those passports. I doubt we ever find out the details, but I would dearly love to know.

The location of the passports is relevant evidence in an investigation of unauthorized retention and mishandling of national defense information...

You're right. He is so fucked.

Given the damning nature of the situation and the "terse" tone of the document, is it fair to say Judge Cannon is likely to drop tfg's request like a hot potato?

[Leghorn21]

7. There are "iconic photos", and then there's ICONIC PHOTOS

SPIN THIS, MOTHERFUCKERS

ADIOS

[Nevilledog]

10. This was some top secret shit

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In some instances, even the FBI counterintelligence personnel and DOJ attorneys conducting the review required additional clearances before they were permitted to review certain documents
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9:04 PM · Aug 30, 2022

[Leghorn21]

12. YES, and we've been waiting for this for years and we KNEW this was going on for YEARS

I’m elated, if that’s the word, but that reality of it gives me a sickly feeling

Surreal af

[Nevilledog]

18. This stuff is delicious

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It’s hard to believe but perfectly true that Christina Bobb’s most recent tweet is about Hillary’s emails. (Bobb is reportedly the Trump lawyer who signed a letter attesting that all sensitive documents had been returned - right before the FBI raid found 33 more boxes.)
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9:57 PM · Aug 30, 2022

She needs a lawyer pronto.

[Leghorn21]

19. It's also a tasty treat to remember that this is *Chris Kise's first day of work*!!

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-hires-former-florida-solicitor-general-criminal-probe-mar-lago-d-rcna45383

[Nevilledog]

20. Bwahahaha!

RNC won't pay his bills for this set of crimes either.

[crickets]

17. Yes. And this one is unforgettable for so many reasons.

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I can’t read all of the controls on this SCI cover letter, but “HCS” and “TK” are both visible.

And that’s really, really fucking bad.
11:37 PM · Aug 30, 2022

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Angry Staffer 🌻 @Angry_Staffer
For those asking:

HCS = HUMINT (Human intelligence)
SI = COMINT (Communications intelligence)
TK = not going to explain the letters, but I’ll say that it’s IMINT (image intelligence)

Three of our most closely guarded secrets.
11:43 PM · Aug 30, 2022

[Cha]

8. Boom. Just as Described.

[Solly Mack]

9. K&R

[dalton99a]

11. Goddamn traitor.

[Skittles]

13. they should check them for semen stains

yeah I know

[LuckyCharms]

25. .

[Skittles]

30. you just know the docs gave him a boner, LC

being perceived as "important" is what gets him off

[Bayard]

15. Well, there it is

All laid out on some gawd-awful ugly carpet.

[fierywoman]

16. So if one document equals 4 years in jail, how many potential

years in jail are on the floor in just this one photo?

[Sogo]

21. The type in the photo on my device is blurry enough such

that even when enlarged can’t be read. But couldn’t someone with sophisticated equipment enlarge it, focus it, and thus have access to the pages shown here?? Why would they expose ANY of what’s in these documents?? Or is what’s shown just some elaborate statement about the confidentiality of the contents? Can anyone here read the type shown in the picture?

I’m puzzled….

[Nevilledog]

22. Some info here

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217102720

[Sogo]

23. Thanks.

[LuckyCharms]

27. They appear to be cover sheets and headers only.

All sets of classified documents will contain a cover sheet with screaming large fonts which warn of the classification level contained within the following documents.

Each document within the set will contain a large stamp at the top and bottom of the page, further indicating the classification of that specific page. (EDIT: See left side of picture, about halfway up from bottom, "SECRET" stamp at top of page. This will also be stamped on the bottom of the page).

In most cases, each paragraph within the specific page will also begin with a classification identifier, notated within brackets, if I remember correctly... [ ].

From what I can see, any actual information in the pictures has been covered up, leaving only the classification designation exposed for view.

[Bev54]

24. When I go to the document, no pictures come up at all.

[Nevilledog]

28. There's gotta be another link for the Exhibits

If I see it I'll post it.

[Bluesaph]

26. Can't afford a new carpet?

The 90’s called and they said they don’t want that ugly ass carpet back.

[Nevilledog]

29. He only had to sell one more document to have enough for new carpet.

[durablend]

31. The right's likely response: "SO WHAT"

"THERE'S TONS WORSE THINGS ON HUNTER BIDEN'S LAPTOP"

[Stuart G]

32. K & R...Think about this: This picture shows that Trump couldn't care less about the U.S.A..

.........Also, this picture ruins Trump's following, and brings the number way down...........

..........GOOD BY MR. TRUMP.".NOT BEEN GOOD TO KNOW YOU MR. TRUMP..."


..........AS ARNOLD SAID............"hasta la vista baby"...bang bang..!!

[malthaussen]

33. Wait wait wait wait...

... they shouldn't even be showing pictures of those cover sheets in public. This is fucking ridiculous.

-- Mal

[LuckyCharms]

35. The cover sheets show no classified information at all.

There is no problem with the public viewing the cover sheets.

Many people are aware of the nomenclature used to define government classifications of information. You can even look that information up on the internet:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classified_information_in_the_United_States

The cover sheets show no information that is not already available to the public. Cover sheets are simply warning devices that essentially say that before looking behind the cover, the person must be appropriately cleared. In other words, it warns the holder of the document "STOP, you must be cleared to view this".

If the person holding the documents somehow misses the glaring, obnoxious, over-the-top warning on the cover sheet, the actual contents behind the cover sheet are also stamped, top and bottom, with even more warnings that the information is not to be read unless 1) You have the appropriate level of clearance, and 2) you have a "need to know".

The DOJ has not disclosed any classified information by posting pictures of the cover sheets, and one document showing a "secret" header. Any actual information related to these classifications is whited out, as shown in the pictures.

Cover sheets and header/footer stamps are not classified information.

[malthaussen]

36. OK, looks like I'm wrong, then.

Could have sworn the "TK" designator was classified, but okay.

-- Mal

[LuckyCharms]

37. You certainly cannot be faulted for being "wrong". Most everyone, including myself,

would make the same assumption that you did.

My belief is that the reason the DOJ posted those pics was to stress to the general public "hey folks, this is serious business".

I think the pictures served their purpose.

[malthaussen]

39. It's really kind of funny, there are retired intelligence wonks...

... who still aren't sure if something is still classified or not. So they err on the side of caution, because unlike DT, they took their jobs seriously.

In fact, there was (is?) a guy at DU (I forget whom, not Mineral Man) who worked on Corona back in the Day and still wouldn't say the name, even though it's been declassified (the name, that is) for decades.

-- Mal

[LuckyCharms]

41. It becomes engrained in you when you work with

classified information for a long period of time.

I probably sound like a broken record because I seem to be repeating this every day...

In order to view a classified document, you must have both: 1) the appropriate clearance to view that classification level, and 2) the "need to know" in order to see a specific document at that classification level. A top secret security clearance is not enough to be able to view a top secret document. You also need a reason for wanting to see that document.

This is why tfg's "defense" that he declassified documents is complete bullshit. A document is not declassified until it is MARKED as being declassified. It is not marked as being declassified until it goes through a process which assesses the risk of declassifying the document. Therefore, I always say that tfg cannot waive a magic wand to declassify documents, and then *poof*, they are instantly declassified at his whim.

I am at complete liberty to discuss specifics concerning classified documents that I had access to in my past. But I don't do it. That is because the security of these documents become ingrained into your very soul, and they are usually never discussed by people who are able to discuss them, even though they have been debriefed and notified that the information is now "white world" and can be discussed freely, vs. "dark world".

[Johnny2X2X]

34. This is all insane

I just can't believe the US had a president who had zero loyalty to the US or our Constitution.

[CatWoman]

38. ....

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[LittleGirl]

40. I don't see "Unclassified" stamped anywhere, do you?

Credit to: Kaitlin Collins, CNN
Great question.

Please film the arrest. I’ve got champagne chilling just for that video.

The magas will say this is photoshopped. They wouldn’t believe the truth if it slapped them in the face.