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Beachnutt

(7,338 posts)
Wed Aug 31, 2022, 01:44 PM Aug 2022

Well my sister that had a trump flag and signs

on her fence told me I should come see her as soon as I can and told me she threw away her last trump sign this morning, I haven't seen her in about 2 years because I refused to come there with all her trump crap.
I didn't push her this morning I just said I'd come by in a few days, hopefully they are finally seeing what he really is.

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Well my sister that had a trump flag and signs (Original Post) Beachnutt Aug 2022 OP
That's good news. Cracklin Charlie Aug 2022 #1
I'm trying, I just called her a week or so ago after Beachnutt Aug 2022 #5
Agree with being patient. You're doing really great so far. Eye on the prize. Hortensis Aug 2022 #17
I've been seeing desantis 2024 flags pop up, so don't hold your breath.... getagrip_already Aug 2022 #2
they are horrid Celerity Aug 2022 #6
Make America Florida? Aviation Pro Aug 2022 #10
Ouchouch 3auld6phart Aug 2022 #33
Cro-Magat man. Aviation Pro Aug 2022 #35
I think they misspelled RocRizzo55 Sep 2022 #61
Omg, is this a joke?! Pinback Aug 2022 #16
I now live in FL. Hell no. Florida's a billionaire captured state. Looks like their team's on it ancianita Aug 2022 #18
"Republican surprise upset victories" DFW Sep 2022 #57
How else would one explain the series of razor-thin Rick Scott victories? Zambero Sep 2022 #65
And the DeSantis victory was another "close" one DFW Sep 2022 #72
Yes, we've seen it over and over again, PatSeg Sep 2022 #66
They've been around here since he was elected obamanut2012 Aug 2022 #21
Yeah, make all of America into a humid swamplamd prone to wnylib Aug 2022 #32
Make America a meth-infested, humid hellhole where getting cranked and flailing around naked Aristus Sep 2022 #69
Saw a woman wearing a cap that said "DeSantis Girl" - Native Aug 2022 #41
shirts too Celerity Aug 2022 #43
Revolting Native Aug 2022 #45
indeed Celerity Aug 2022 #47
How demeaning mgardener Aug 2022 #52
indeed Celerity Aug 2022 #53
For TFG, shouldn't they be called.... COL Mustard Aug 2022 #55
This message was self-deleted by its author Celerity Aug 2022 #54
Oh, that is disgusting! PatSeg Sep 2022 #67
Bumper sticker in Oregon for Trump/DeSantis.. Permanut Aug 2022 #49
DeSantis markodochartaigh Aug 2022 #51
I support the Trump/DeSantis team... Sky Jewels Sep 2022 #59
Great news. At least one person leaving the cult. Claustrum Aug 2022 #3
I hope your sister is representative. lindysalsagal Aug 2022 #4
Me too Beachnutt Aug 2022 #7
Glad that happened for you, Beach blm Aug 2022 #8
Great news Johnny2X2X Aug 2022 #9
Congrats! SheltieLover Aug 2022 #11
Be good to her, as I'm sure you will. And maybe let it go, unless Ilsa Aug 2022 #12
Did she tell you the reason for the light bulb moment? Boomerproud Aug 2022 #13
No, Beachnutt Aug 2022 #24
Steve Douchey seems to be coming around. G2theD Aug 2022 #39
Wow - if she has Fox on, just suggest you guys go to another room womanofthehills Aug 2022 #56
Could be that some people are just harder to deal with. calimary Sep 2022 #70
Each baby step counts in a mile. appleannie1 Aug 2022 #14
If she has replaced with DuhSantis signs don't stop, keep driving. NoMoreRepugs Aug 2022 #15
+1 ancianita Aug 2022 #19
You can bet I won't Beachnutt Aug 2022 #25
I've noticed Loge23 Aug 2022 #20
gives me hope. barbtries Aug 2022 #22
I sure will, Beachnutt Aug 2022 #26
LET'S GO BRANDON is still on a roof in four foot letters three blocks right behind me. czarjak Aug 2022 #30
Hopefully a large DARK BRANDON IS REAL sign will make an appearance in those parts! Zambero Sep 2022 #64
Some MAGAts are starting to sober up. OMGWTF Aug 2022 #23
I would take a bottle of wine Dirty Socialist Aug 2022 #27
Be nice. Don't rub it in with I told you so. Instead --- vlyons Aug 2022 #28
I know, I know....I'm the glass half empty. Ferrets are Cool Aug 2022 #29
That is such good news. Happy for you both. niyad Aug 2022 #31
Driving across southern Wisconsin, lots of the Trump flags and banners that stayed up lees1975 Aug 2022 #34
I love hearing Cha Aug 2022 #36
If she has always been super conservative, but only when the moment is right, Tadpole Raisin Aug 2022 #37
The lunatic on my street still has his 4x6 ft. Trump/Pence 2020 sign up. G2theD Aug 2022 #38
And yet they wanted to kill Pence Zambero Sep 2022 #68
Good news! IrishAfricanAmerican Aug 2022 #40
❤️ ✿❧🌿❧✿ ❤️ Lucinda Aug 2022 #42
I drove south on Route 29 in Virginia coming home today phylny Aug 2022 #44
Take her a little gift of something tasty or sweet; just listen at first. No Vested Interest Aug 2022 #46
Great idea, I will do that Beachnutt Aug 2022 #48
Let's hope she listens to you in '24 and doesn't vote for DeathSentence. Native Aug 2022 #50
I marvel at your patience DFW Sep 2022 #58
Line the litter box with that crap Demovictory9 Sep 2022 #60
I'm glad your sister Dorian Gray Sep 2022 #62
Please keep us posted!!nt Trueblue Texan Sep 2022 #63
Very good news. Healing can begin. Martin68 Sep 2022 #71

Beachnutt

(7,338 posts)
5. I'm trying, I just called her a week or so ago after
Wed Aug 31, 2022, 01:53 PM
Aug 2022

not speaking for probably a year or more, I was thinking maybe they are seeing some of what his sorry ass is doing lately and then I called her again this morning to chat and she told me that.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
17. Agree with being patient. You're doing really great so far. Eye on the prize.
Wed Aug 31, 2022, 02:14 PM
Aug 2022
“There are three things I have learned never to discuss with people...religion, politics, and the Great Pumpkin." ~ Linus, 1966

getagrip_already

(14,833 posts)
2. I've been seeing desantis 2024 flags pop up, so don't hold your breath....
Wed Aug 31, 2022, 01:49 PM
Aug 2022

Not saying that is the case with your sister, just that hate is mercurial.

ancianita

(36,132 posts)
18. I now live in FL. Hell no. Florida's a billionaire captured state. Looks like their team's on it
Wed Aug 31, 2022, 02:16 PM
Aug 2022

with the symbols and slogans already.


I fear Val Demings and Charlie Crist will literally be ahead in the polls, then lose by the usual "close call" 1%, kinda how it's been for Dems since Gore lost.

DFW

(54,436 posts)
57. "Republican surprise upset victories"
Thu Sep 1, 2022, 12:03 AM
Sep 2022

They have been an increasing phenomenon in a huge number of elections in the USA, starting with 2000, the 2002 midterms, and, especially, Ohio 2004. Florida has had plenty of them. Demings and Crist can still win, but to win by 1%, their true margin of victory will have to be 3% or 4% or else the Republicans will just manipulate the numbers in their favor—again.

Zambero

(8,965 posts)
65. How else would one explain the series of razor-thin Rick Scott victories?
Thu Sep 1, 2022, 09:31 AM
Sep 2022

Could there have possibly been a worse candidate on the ballot? Well, DeSantis comes to mind!

DFW

(54,436 posts)
72. And the DeSantis victory was another "close" one
Thu Sep 1, 2022, 02:11 PM
Sep 2022

Of course, for a party who claims their candidate won in a landslide when he got 8 million votes less than his opponent, I guess to them, DeSantis beating out his opponent by the usual Florida Republican “margin of victory,” means he won in their eyes by a 3 to 1 margin.

PatSeg

(47,583 posts)
66. Yes, we've seen it over and over again,
Thu Sep 1, 2022, 09:58 AM
Sep 2022

yet they have the nerve to accuse Democrats of "rigging elections". Once again accusing your adversary of what you do - Republican tactics and somehow people keep buying what they're selling. So now if Democrats accuse THEM of cheating, they'll say it is sour grapes and every election in the future will be contested by one or both sides. Not sure if democracy can survive that.

wnylib

(21,600 posts)
32. Yeah, make all of America into a humid swamplamd prone to
Wed Aug 31, 2022, 03:31 PM
Aug 2022

hurricanes. That should go ever well in places like Colorado, Minnesota, etc. Even ultra conservative Montana and Idaho would not feel any identification with that imagery.

Aristus

(66,450 posts)
69. Make America a meth-infested, humid hellhole where getting cranked and flailing around naked
Thu Sep 1, 2022, 11:11 AM
Sep 2022

seems to be the state pastime?

No thanks. Keep Florida in Florida...

Native

(5,943 posts)
41. Saw a woman wearing a cap that said "DeSantis Girl" -
Wed Aug 31, 2022, 05:08 PM
Aug 2022

she was definitely over 50, and this was at a Bonefish Grill restaurant in Hernando County, Florida (about 40 minutes from Tampa). Completely lost my appetite.

Response to mgardener (Reply #52)

Permanut

(5,629 posts)
49. Bumper sticker in Oregon for Trump/DeSantis..
Wed Aug 31, 2022, 05:43 PM
Aug 2022

I'm 76 years old. I hope I live long enough to see Mango Mussolini, Abbott, DeSantis, Greene, Boebert, McConnell, Cruz, Johnson, Hawley, Graham, McCarthy, Jordan, Gaetz and the leaders of their Jesus cults, gun cults and billionaire PACS lose their power and just go away.

Not counting on it. I'm healthy now, so maybe.

markodochartaigh

(1,145 posts)
51. DeSantis
Wed Aug 31, 2022, 06:27 PM
Aug 2022

At least in the case of deSantis you may get your wish. The home insurance market in Florida is melting down with companies fleeing the state. And it isn't because of anthropogenic climate change concerns, they are leaving because of rampant fraud. This disaster seems likely grow to the point that it will be covered nationwide, and for a long time.

Live long and prosper!

Claustrum

(4,846 posts)
3. Great news. At least one person leaving the cult.
Wed Aug 31, 2022, 01:51 PM
Aug 2022

I hope more will come around to their senses.

And congrats on gaining a relative back.

Johnny2X2X

(19,114 posts)
9. Great news
Wed Aug 31, 2022, 01:59 PM
Aug 2022

One by one.

Everyone has always seemed to be waiting for some big awakening with Trump's followers, but that's rarely how cults work. It was always going to be a slow ebb of supporters leaving him. I think we're on the brink of Trump being electoral poison though now as no moderates will ever be able to vote for him again.

Ilsa

(61,697 posts)
12. Be good to her, as I'm sure you will. And maybe let it go, unless
Wed Aug 31, 2022, 02:10 PM
Aug 2022

she wants to talk about it.

Congratulations!

Boomerproud

(7,964 posts)
13. Did she tell you the reason for the light bulb moment?
Wed Aug 31, 2022, 02:11 PM
Aug 2022

I'm still waiting for my coworkers to see the truth.

Beachnutt

(7,338 posts)
24. No,
Wed Aug 31, 2022, 02:32 PM
Aug 2022

because I really don't want to push the issue right now.
Just glad she threw away all the trump stuff so I can stop by and see her, I will see if she and her husband still have fox and friends for breakfast, if so I probably will not go back for a while until more rethugs go to jail etc...

G2theD

(593 posts)
39. Steve Douchey seems to be coming around.
Wed Aug 31, 2022, 04:33 PM
Aug 2022

He blasted Kristi Noem about the documents yesterday. He couldn’t understand why TFLG didn’t give back the “secret stuff”.
She deflected and digressed of course.

womanofthehills

(8,759 posts)
56. Wow - if she has Fox on, just suggest you guys go to another room
Wed Aug 31, 2022, 11:56 PM
Aug 2022

If you are reconnecting, why have so many restrictions. I don’t get people who cannot speak with a relative if they are Republican. I have mostly Dem friends, but the girlfriend who will be there for me is a Republican. How hard is it to agree not to talk politics and enjoy each other.

calimary

(81,450 posts)
70. Could be that some people are just harder to deal with.
Thu Sep 1, 2022, 11:50 AM
Sep 2022

I can understand the wish to avoid aggravation and conflict and possible arguments. Life’s too short.

Maybe you’ve had the good fortune to have met a Republican who’s also in touch with her humanity first, and then the politics and the what-they-stand-for problems later. I wish they were all like that. But sometimes, as one ages, it could be that repeated efforts at patience and understanding and compassion and camaraderie just don’t work with some people. And then, it might just be better and less potentially combustible to minimize contact.

Just my opinion, of course.

Beachnutt

(7,338 posts)
25. You can bet I won't
Wed Aug 31, 2022, 02:34 PM
Aug 2022

but I don't think she will, she misses me too and knows how I feel about the rethugs.

Loge23

(3,922 posts)
20. I've noticed
Wed Aug 31, 2022, 02:24 PM
Aug 2022

in my neck of the woods, most of tfg signs have disappeared.
There's one business, in Palm City FL - a sod dealer - who displayed tfg signs for well years, they're all gone now.
There's another neighborhood - a white low-income area - that also had the flags waving for years - no longer.
Maybe!

czarjak

(11,289 posts)
30. LET'S GO BRANDON is still on a roof in four foot letters three blocks right behind me.
Wed Aug 31, 2022, 03:14 PM
Aug 2022

Ownership has conseQuences.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
28. Be nice. Don't rub it in with I told you so. Instead ---
Wed Aug 31, 2022, 02:46 PM
Aug 2022

Just listen. Then extol all the great things that Biden has done. Tell her that Biden wants to bring back the ban on assault weapons, but leave hunters alone. He wants to fund the police and train them. He's got the greatest job growth in recent memory, and has paid down the national debt. He also makes the fat corporations pay their share of taxes.

BE POSITIVE ABOUT VOTING DEM Make sure she is registered to vote.

Ferrets are Cool

(21,109 posts)
29. I know, I know....I'm the glass half empty.
Wed Aug 31, 2022, 02:49 PM
Aug 2022

Most if not all of these people will STILL vote for every fucking repug on the ticket, so that is a big NO for me. I will be civil but politics will NOT be discussed.

lees1975

(3,878 posts)
34. Driving across southern Wisconsin, lots of the Trump flags and banners that stayed up
Wed Aug 31, 2022, 03:48 PM
Aug 2022

after the election are gone. Not sure if that means anything, but up until a few months ago, it was a regular feature in those counties.

My wife and I have some close friends who have also come to their senses recently. They have a son who we visited three years ago in Walter Reed where he was recovering after being injured in Afghanistan. Some of his buddies came home during the Biden airlift, and basically backed up his stories of the confusion and cross purposes going on there under Trump.

If the news media would just stop reporting every social media post he makes and every time he hits the head, and updated their "factoring" in the polling data, we'd find that his "base" or cult as I prefer to call them, is a lot smaller than it seems.

Tadpole Raisin

(972 posts)
37. If she has always been super conservative, but only when the moment is right,
Wed Aug 31, 2022, 04:15 PM
Aug 2022

and IF she talks about feeling betrayed maybe ask her to think about what news she follows since the one major news outlet that supported him knew the truth but lied to her anyway and that contributed to her false belief.

I saw some ‘study’ that had watchers of Fox News who agreed to watch something else for a period of time (? 2 months) and some of them really opened their eyes afterward about the BS Fox fed them.

I feel like if those people just beginning to see the light but who continue to watch Fox will just get sucked back down the rabbit hole sooner or later.

They haven’t connected the dots on the full level of the betrayal.

Zambero

(8,965 posts)
68. And yet they wanted to kill Pence
Thu Sep 1, 2022, 10:25 AM
Sep 2022

The MAGA "thought process" is inexplicable in its mind-numbing contradictions.

phylny

(8,385 posts)
44. I drove south on Route 29 in Virginia coming home today
Wed Aug 31, 2022, 05:20 PM
Aug 2022

and didn’t see one Trump sign where there used to be many.

No Vested Interest

(5,167 posts)
46. Take her a little gift of something tasty or sweet; just listen at first.
Wed Aug 31, 2022, 05:22 PM
Aug 2022

Try not to gloat.
Talk about family, and leave politics behind for the moment.

DFW

(54,436 posts)
58. I marvel at your patience
Thu Sep 1, 2022, 12:11 AM
Sep 2022

I am fortunate to have siblings who think pretty much like I do. Now that he is finally allowed to tell me what he does all day (he retired and gave up his security clearance), my brother and I talk on the phone more often than we used to, and my sister was always in touch, even though she seems to be under the impression that Whatsapp and Facebook have replaced the spoken word altogether.

Dorian Gray

(13,499 posts)
62. I'm glad your sister
Thu Sep 1, 2022, 07:21 AM
Sep 2022

reached out to you. I hope she's seen the light, and your family can rebuild it's trust with one another.

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