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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAndrew Napolitano: Why Donald Trump will soon be indicted
Hes not usually my go to legal analyst but he does sometimes make really good points, and this is one of those times. He does not mince words in this article. He says Trump absolutely will be indicted and that Trump has virtually no defense to fall back on. According to Napolitano, Trump is 100% fucked.
But the Bush-era statute, the one the feds contemplate charging Mr. Trump with having violated, makes it a crime of obstruction by failing to return government property or by sending the FBI on a wild goose chase looking for something that belongs to the government and that you know that you have. This statute does not require the preexistence of a judicial proceeding. It only requires that the defendant has the governments property, knows that he has it and baselessly resists efforts by the government to get it back.
What will Mr. Trump say in his defense to taking national defense information? I cannot think of a legally viable one.
https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/aug/31/why-donald-trump-will-soon-be-indicted/
SWBTATTReg
(22,166 posts)he was illegally in procession of any and all classified/etc. documentation since Pres. Biden was sworn in. And to add further to the crimes (real and potential), what documents still haven't been found? Who else had seen these documents and who also rec'd these (if any) documents? Our intelligence services have their work cut out for them, in backtracking, seeing what other damages to our National Defense has occurred.
Traitor. I can't think of anything worse than what this scumbag did to our Country.
Dr. Jack
(675 posts)would mean that a former President would be considered more powerful than a sitting President and if the courts somehow allowed that argument (which they wouldnt) it would destroy the entire way the government works. Any legal defenses Trump has thrown out there are so poorly thought out that they would involve the complete destruction of the US government, if you take them to their logical conclusions.
SWBTATTReg
(22,166 posts)clan is desperately trying anything to weasel their way out of this whole mess, but I think the balloon has went up and tRUMP is now suffering and will suffer more to come. tRUMP went way too far. Now he must face the music and the music that is playing isn't pretty.
Dr. Jack
(675 posts)And that is very telling. When was the last time you heard Kevin McCarthy screaming about Trump being unfairly persecuted by the DOJ? After the initial, knee jerk outrage, all defenses have ceased. Even the RNC is refusing to help cover his legal bills on this one. Hes being left to his fate, I think
SWBTATTReg
(22,166 posts)you, what in the world can the GOP / tRUMP enablers say?
Dr. Jack
(675 posts)He made a big deal about the copies of Newsweek in the photo not being classified information. That was the entire extent of his defense. He of course didnt comment on the piles of top secret document also in the photo.
Republicans trying to defend Trump are just in full blown trolling mode and arent even trying.
brush
(53,843 posts)are all still alive, so according to trump's silly contention, they could all declare executive privilege at any time.
God, how long before we are through with this halfwit taking up all the oxygen in the media sphere?
lindysalsagal
(20,729 posts)KS Toronado
(17,316 posts)bashing what his party has turned into would be awesome.
SWBTATTReg
(22,166 posts)God, how long before we are through with this halfwit taking up all the oxygen in the media sphere?
wnylib
(21,603 posts)He obfuscates issues with lame arguments and smoke and mirror BS. It works in politics and even in business. But not in a federal court of law dealing with national security. Only facts matter in this case, not BS spin.
Lonestarblue
(10,063 posts)And only the current officeholder has it. That officeholder can grant executive privilege to something requested by others, but no one else has that privilege. As usual, Trump is blowing smoke.
rurallib
(62,448 posts)but are aimed at riling up his 20 million (whatever) crazies and keep them agitated no matter how stupid the claim is.
Justice matters.
(6,941 posts)(gallows seen in pictures)
And he is totally free to keep inciting them (those not in prison) up to over a hundred times-a-day!
muriel_volestrangler
(101,361 posts)He wants to have a reputation for getting the law right, so if he's saying it looks really bad for Trump, it probably does.
Dr. Jack
(675 posts)And by that I mean this is a case where listening what this specific Republican is saying is probably a good idea.
intrepidity
(7,336 posts)Mr. Rothbard warned that the feds aggressively protect themselves. Yet, both Mr. Assange and Mr. Snowden are heroic defenders of liberty with valid moral and legal defenses. Mr. Assange is protected by the Pentagon Papers case, which insulates the media from criminal or civil liability for revealing stolen matters of interest to the public, so long as the revealer is not the thief. Mr. Snowden is protected by the Constitution, which expressly prohibits the warrantless surveillance he revealed, which was the most massive peacetime abuse of government power.
What will Mr. Trump say in his defense to taking national defense information? I cannot think of a legally viable one.
ShazzieB
(16,508 posts)If there's one key rule about trying to predict what Trump will do, it's this: Never, EVER, expect logic or consistency from him, especially when it comes to the penalties he should pay for behavior he finds to be deserving of the worst possible punishment when OTHERS do it.
In his mind, anything he does is, by definition, okay, because HE did it. The rules don't apply to him. They are for everyone else. He'll never admit he's done anything wrong, because in his mind, he can't BE wrong. Being called to account for anything (much less being punished) is unthinkable to him. When he acts like a victim, that's because he actually believes that he IS a victim.
If this sounds like an extremely screwed up way of existing in the world, that's because it is. But that's how a malignant narcissist's mind works.
intrepidity
(7,336 posts)Although, he doesn't consciously recognize it. Of course.
ZonkerHarris
(24,254 posts)lindysalsagal
(20,729 posts)Mr.Bill
(24,319 posts)do we now let Trump skate on the 53,749 other crimes he committed?
(sorta)
central scrutinizer
(11,661 posts)Have they had an epiphany? Used to be a right wing Moonie rag.
ProfessorGAC
(65,168 posts)A known hard right commentator makes a rational legal case why TFG is done and see the reaction.
If he doesn't get tons of death threats, more of his ilk can start creating distance from him.