40% of Americans still support tRump

[edhopper]

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according to latest polls.

The mental gymnastics they must be doing to excuse his treason are Olympic.


https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/favorability/donald-trump/

[Marcuse]

1. The Jedi mind trick only works on the MAGA.

[robbob]

39. Well, Obi Wan did say something

about “weaker minds”. I think they qualify.,.

[Claustrum]

2. If you are brainwashed to never trust any news source other than Fox Noise,

you can just pretend nothing is going on because nothing is legitimate and you can forever justify and keep your stance.

[Meadowoak]

3. I don't believe any polls anymore.

[BlueIdaho]

5. This X 1000.

[elleng]

9. ditto

[secondwind]

14. They are only a snapshot in time.

[Meadowoak]

25. Usually with a thumb on the scale.

[Just A Box Of Rain]

4. I seriously doubt that figure.

[Mr.Bill]

11. Even if it's true,

Even with the Electoral College, I doubt someone with 40% of the vote can get elected President.

[edhopper]

18. 538

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/favorability/donald-trump/

[Just A Box Of Rain]

24. And the link shows that the (A-) Quinnipiac University poll taken this week shows

Trump with a 34% Favorable rating and a 57% Unfavorable rating, which seems much more in line with my perceptions of the political reality.

34% and trending down.

[edhopper]

28. YouGov

taken after that shows 41%

[Just A Box Of Rain]

29. YouGov is a lower rated poll, the dates are overlapping in the main with Quinnipiac,

and I don't just don't believe the 41/42% approval number in the YouGov polls are accurate.

Those numbers strain credulity in my estimation.

[edhopper]

30. And I think

We underestimate his support our own peril

[Just A Box Of Rain]

32. I feel like I'm pretty objective and have a good track record for such things.

A 40% approval rating for TFG seems significantly "off" to me.

Until I'm convinced otherwise I will regard that YouGov poll as an outlier.

[Demsrule86]

33. No Trump is losing popularity.

[Sky Jewels]

6. Absolutely pathetic if that's even close to true.

[Atticus]

7. One is tempted to ask "How do we get rid of them?" but I think we must stick

with "How do we totally defeat them and insure they wear their shame to their graves?"

Their "Scarlet Letter" should be a capital "T".

[tenderfoot]

8. Latest polls by whom?

OANN viewers

[edhopper]

19. 538

A aggravate.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/favorability/donald-trump/

[tenderfoot]

22. Nate Silver?

Sure Jan.

[edhopper]

26. Not his poll

It's an aggravated number from many polls.

[panader0]

31. Aggregated? although I do find it aggravating.

[GreenWave]

10. Consider this:

Almost all major newspapers are owned by corporations therefore conservative
hate talk radio
hate talk social media
hate talk tv
hate talk religion
namby pamby Sinclair tv networks dumbing down.

It is amazing that 60% do not succumb.

[Just A Box Of Rain]

17. The premise "corporate" therefore "conservative" doesn't follow.

Corporations, in the main, exist to return shareholder value to their investors.

Since the economy is generally more robust during Democratic presidencies than Republican ones, and more profits are realized by corporations, it tends to be in the interest of corporations to have Democratic administrations in power.

In the real world, corporations are not monolithic, and are populated (and owned) by both liberal and conservatives.

[GreenWave]

36. Are you suggesting major newspapers in general

are liberal in nature? Including the NY Times? Are they finally calling an area that has over 2,270 foreign military bases, outposts, and installations EXCLUDING undeclared war zones an Empire?

[Just A Box Of Rain]

38. My hometown newspaper, the LA Times, has almost always endorsed Democrats

across the board for political offices and backed liberal causes in their editorial policies.

The NY Times endorsed JFK in 1960, LBJ in 64, HHH in 68, McGovern in 72, Carter in 80, Mondale in 84, Dukakis in 88, Clinton in 92 and 96, Gore in 2000, Kerry in 04, Obama in 08 and 12, HRC in 16, and Biden in 2020. Do you have a problem with that?, because I sure don't.

The premise that "corporate" necessarily equals "conservative" is false.

[Murphyb849]

12. When someone actually talks to 40% of the American people then I will believe this

[sop]

13. My Trump-loving neighbor's mental gymnastics are as follows:

Trump declassified everything while he was president. He had the right to take "declassified" documents and did nothing wrong. Democrats are going after Trump to stop him from running again.

[RockRaven]

15. It doesn't require mental gymnastics. They just start with the conclusion, and so don't have to

think very hard about it.

It's like religion -- how many religious people you know believe/practice whatever religion because of sophisticated religious apologetics? Probably very few. Probably most don't even know about the nitty gritty details of the apologetics employed by their clerics when arguing with each other. So it is with politics. MAGAts start with the premise that TFG is good and anyone opposed to him is bad, and so they don't have to think real hard about how/why any evidence presented against him is illegitimate, they know automatically and deep in their bones that it is so. Very little effort, very little distress. Evidence against the Dear Leader? Nope. Fake news. Deep state. Whatever. Moving on...

[ProfessorGAC]

16. Reasons To Distrust That Result...

...are numerous.
Principally, it was 40% 2 years ago, before January 6 (which we know turned some independents off) & before the document issue.
On top of that, rally attendance, ratings for TFG's Newsmax appearances, and cash flow are all down.
It's not logical to conclude that the 40% value remains unchanged.
If a poll provides a result that is illogical it is more likely to be flawed than it is an indication that all other indicators are in error.

[edhopper]

20. 40%

Today

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/favorability/donald-trump/

[ProfessorGAC]

21. I Said What I Said

I'm sticking to it. The result is illogical.
When there was essentially a binary choice in 2020, TFG only got 47% of the vote.
And the cult turned out to vote in huge proportion. (About 68% of eligible voters did so.)
68% of 47% is 32%. That's if EVERY TFG voter still supports him, & we know that's not the case.
Any poll result that cannot logically square with other knowns is fairly considered suspect.
I simply do not believe those results. I believe there is flawed methodology.

[llmart]

23. +1000

Thank you.

[edhopper]

27. As if no one

Who didn't vote also supports Trump. Not how it works.

[kentuck]

34. Is there any hope for this country?

It doesn't really matter to them.They are able to ignore it all. Facts don't matter. The Leader will let them know the news . All the rest is "fake news".

[sarcasmo]

35. Is the percentage of white folks in this country 40% ?

[Mr. Ected]

37. So why does the media treat them like they represent "the general public"?

Rhetorical question, no need to answer.