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Grasswire2

(13,571 posts)
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 08:30 PM Sep 2022

Seth Abramson is live-tweeting the traitor's fury-rally now

Here's a link to unrolled thread, easy to read.

[link:https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1566210661658595328.html|


Donald Trump just called Joe Biden an "enemy of the state" at his rally.

He did this in the first 120 seconds of his speech.

I assume the U.S. Secret Service will investigate?

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Seth Abramson is live-tweeting the traitor's fury-rally now (Original Post) Grasswire2 Sep 2022 OP
more at the link. Here's one. Grasswire2 Sep 2022 #1
Trump has no cards to play. OAITW r.2.0 Sep 2022 #5
And you know this because...? wnylib Sep 2022 #47
Panic if you will....I'm not. OAITW r.2.0 Sep 2022 #49
?? Panic is your word, not mine. wnylib Sep 2022 #53
Brandenburg V Ohio. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2022 #45
more Grasswire2 Sep 2022 #2
and on... Grasswire2 Sep 2022 #8
He's calling for civil war. crickets Sep 2022 #15
Making the nation stronger than it's been.... SergeStorms Sep 2022 #38
He's getting meaner and nastier vlyons Sep 2022 #3
He's cornered and he knows it. calguy Sep 2022 #10
Yeah like a cornered Cha Sep 2022 #23
So cornered that nobody goes to arrest him for endangering National Security. n/t Justice matters. Sep 2022 #60
And scarier. calimary Sep 2022 #39
It's pure domestic terrorism. Nothing was done to stop during the obama years onetexan Sep 2022 #58
Just watched some of it jmbar2 Sep 2022 #4
Yup. Never underestimate him Arazi Sep 2022 #32
He is clever. Clever with media and Other People's Money. But so unwise as to be stupid. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2022 #34
He knows his audience. To them, he hits all the right notes. Earth-shine Sep 2022 #36
He focuses his smarts on what matters to him Random Boomer Sep 2022 #55
grasping at self vlyons Sep 2022 #56
He's feeding his rabid cult followers w the lies onetexan Sep 2022 #57
That's e-fucking-nuff! FalloutShelter Sep 2022 #6
Obviously he has something that he knows Beachnutt Sep 2022 #7
This guy knew how to do a rally, much bigger crowds doc03 Sep 2022 #9
1969 I was there also. Bavorskoami Sep 2022 #27
Yes as I remember you could just walk into the place, you could see where the doc03 Sep 2022 #28
That had to be mind-blowing. calimary Sep 2022 #40
He'll be the first president ever indicted! dchill Sep 2022 #11
Just as soon as he shoots someone Beachnutt Sep 2022 #13
But he would be a civilian when he is indicted... kentuck Sep 2022 #33
Well, yeah. Of course. dchill Sep 2022 #42
Oy! Talking about a physical Dr. Oz gave him. Grasswire2 Sep 2022 #12
If you read up on what happens to the brain PlutosHeart Sep 2022 #30
Interesting. He's doing something to manipulate people/his cult. nt AnotherMother4Peace Sep 2022 #37
So I was trying to Converse with a MAGAt online and he told me to scipan Sep 2022 #61
and he won't get 1/100th of the "outrage" from the media that biden did for calling out magats Takket Sep 2022 #14
Bet the rent on that gratuitous Sep 2022 #18
Sadly true. nt crickets Sep 2022 #22
Since our system of justice moves at a snails pace Beachnutt Sep 2022 #16
One word: rendition. Midnight Writer Sep 2022 #17
I'm exhausted just reading his take Roland99 Sep 2022 #19
more Grasswire2 Sep 2022 #20
Geez, how many times did his own dad bail him out of his financial fiascos while still alive? n/t thenelm1 Sep 2022 #43
Someone needs to find Corgigal Sep 2022 #21
Can't he be taken into protective custody? dchill Sep 2022 #24
Not much of a crowd either Farmer-Rick Sep 2022 #25
SHUT UP Fucking Cha Sep 2022 #26
Stroke out already, you F'n, murdering, orange TRAITOR**. niyad Sep 2022 #29
He probably won't until the Judge reads out his sentence in open court. TLG is that far into denial. Ford_Prefect Sep 2022 #35
Donald J Trump v United States of America kentuck Sep 2022 #31
Any pictures of all the pro-Muslim shirts in the crowd? keithbvadu2 Sep 2022 #41
Seth says they have SAD music cued up to influence the audience when he tells how picked on he is. Grasswire2 Sep 2022 #44
This shit HAS to stop! Ahpook Sep 2022 #46
Disgusted Alien Life Form Sep 2022 #48
Somebody needs to be... 2naSalit Sep 2022 #50
I want my documents back! sarcasmo Sep 2022 #51
Reading the whole thread made me worry about Abramson's safety. Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2022 #52
As insane and scary as Trump's speech was, the reaction from his highplainsdem Sep 2022 #54
Putin and his puppet need money. MAGAts are the bank. Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2022 #59

Grasswire2

(13,571 posts)
1. more at the link. Here's one.
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 08:32 PM
Sep 2022

This is, quite simply, a speech intended to incite domestic terrorists to kill FBI agents and members of the Biden administration. It is shocking that there are no legal consequences for Incitement anymore. Trump has just now called the legal search of Mar-a-Lago an "assault."

OAITW r.2.0

(24,504 posts)
5. Trump has no cards to play.
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 08:38 PM
Sep 2022

The losers that gravitate to his clown show don't count. No one is uprising for Donald Trump.

wnylib

(21,482 posts)
53. ?? Panic is your word, not mine.
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 11:29 PM
Sep 2022

I just asked how you know that Trump's call for violence will fail.

Grasswire2

(13,571 posts)
2. more
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 08:34 PM
Sep 2022

Trump says "we [his MAGA followers] have no choice" but to orchestrate "a backlash the likes of which no one has ever seen before" because the Democrats are trying to "destroy" America and have constituted a tyrannical government. Everything he is saying bespeaks future violence.
Trump now says that the search of Mar-a-Lago was a violent attack on the "hopes and dreams" of everyone who voted for him in 2020—a number (I kid you not) he estimated in his speech could be as high as 225 million people (about 150 million Americans in *total* voted in 2020).
Trump has just told more lies about the Trump-Russia scandal in four minutes than I have ever seen him tell.

(Just a reminder, here, that Donald Trump colluded with the Kremlin *repeatedly* during the 2016 campaign, and then obstructed all attempts to investigate his collusion.)
Trump's rhetoric is impossible to follow. He says that by January 2021 he'd saved America—making the nation stronger than it'd ever been in 240 years. But his salvation was *also* apparently so shoddy that a man he deems addled was able to *destroy* all he did in months. Uh...?🤪

crickets

(25,981 posts)
15. He's calling for civil war.
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 08:55 PM
Sep 2022

It seems he thinks that, somehow, the mayhem caused may be his last hope to evade justice.

This is all but an open invitation, skating right up to the edge without going over, but anyone can tell what he's talking about. What else could "a backlash the likes of which no one has ever seen before" mean, especially followed by the hateful ramblings and lies about election fraud and Biden?

SergeStorms

(19,201 posts)
38. Making the nation stronger than it's been....
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 10:13 PM
Sep 2022

in 240 years has to be the biggest lie he's ever told. There have been tens of thousands of lies by Trump in the past 7 years, but that one has to rate in the top 10, at the very least. 🙄

He's totally out of his mind now. He needs to be involuntarily committed to a soundproof rubber-room immediately.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
3. He's getting meaner and nastier
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 08:37 PM
Sep 2022

Downright vicious. A truly evil man. Surely normal human beings are disgusted with him. He, my friends, is the perfect example of what Biden was talking about.

calimary

(81,304 posts)
39. And scarier.
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 10:18 PM
Sep 2022

Considering the madness that his followers are damn near drunk with by now, I worry what at least a few of the most extreme ones will resort to, if they get desperate enough.

onetexan

(13,041 posts)
58. It's pure domestic terrorism. Nothing was done to stop during the obama years
Sun Sep 4, 2022, 06:32 AM
Sep 2022

& the Con co-opted it for his usurpation. It's not going to go away or dir down easily given their numbers and availability of arms. This is a danger the country w need to fight till the MAGAts crawl back to the woodworks.

jmbar2

(4,890 posts)
4. Just watched some of it
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 08:37 PM
Sep 2022

What's striking to me is how fluid and masterful he is at throwing out plausible sounding, but wrong facts. I have been assuming he's not that bright, but have changed my mind. He is really good at demagoguing and inciting. Rapid-fire gish gallop of lies so thick that a full-time team would be needed to counter them. No wonder his fans don't question anything.

He's also priming the pump for accusations of election fraud if Mastriano loses.

Arazi

(6,829 posts)
32. Yup. Never underestimate him
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 09:51 PM
Sep 2022

I remember watching one of his 2016 rallies and feeling slightly ill, I instinctively understood how he had mastered techniques designed to draw in the aggrieved white folks.

I was really worried he might win after watching him just once in 2016

Random Boomer

(4,168 posts)
55. He focuses his smarts on what matters to him
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 11:45 PM
Sep 2022

Overall, my dog isn't all that bright. But when it comes to food and car rides, she turns into Einstein. I could swear the minute going for a drive crosses my mind, she wakes out of a deep sleep and bounds up, ready to keep me company.

What matters to Donald Trump is being the center of attention. It's his narcissistic fuel. And he's mastered the art of getting attention because this is central to his sense of well-being, it props up the hollow parts inside him. He will do or say anything, no holds barred, to hold an audience's attention. He's good at it, because he can't emotionally survive without it.

onetexan

(13,041 posts)
57. He's feeding his rabid cult followers w the lies
Sun Sep 4, 2022, 04:39 AM
Sep 2022

Their weak minds are primed for lies. He knows it & manipulates them for his purposes.

FalloutShelter

(11,869 posts)
6. That's e-fucking-nuff!
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 08:38 PM
Sep 2022

Arrest this traitor NOW. How much more are we supposed to excuse from this waste of skin?
He is openly foment revolution against the government! Time for him to STFU’
ENOUGH!

Beachnutt

(7,324 posts)
7. Obviously he has something that he knows
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 08:39 PM
Sep 2022

is an ironclad blackmail tool to hold the fbi, doj and others at bay while he continues to destroy democracy in this country.
He has top secret intelligence set up as a blackmail tool or something equally damaging why else would he still be free ?

doc03

(35,344 posts)
9. This guy knew how to do a rally, much bigger crowds
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 08:45 PM
Sep 2022



When I was in the Army in 1969 I stood on that podium where Hitler spoke.

Bavorskoami

(118 posts)
27. 1969 I was there also.
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 09:26 PM
Sep 2022

At the time I was not very aware of history and political movements, but is was quite intense to stand there. (I was ASA stationed nearby at Herzo Base).
Edited to add: Thank goodness Trump is nowhere as near as competent as AH.

doc03

(35,344 posts)
28. Yes as I remember you could just walk into the place, you could see where the
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 09:36 PM
Sep 2022

American tanks blew the swastika off the podium and above him on top of the stand. I saw newsreels of them
blasting them off. It was just left as it was after the war at that time anyway. I was stationed at the Pond
Barracks 2nd Armored Cavalry in Amberg. Our barracks are still there in Amberg but are now an apartment complex.
I have a picture of myself and my buddy doing the Nazi salute where Hitler stood. I better not run for president that
picture would not look so good now, I was 21 at the time. That would be a plus if I ran as a Republican though.

kentuck

(111,098 posts)
33. But he would be a civilian when he is indicted...
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 09:53 PM
Sep 2022

An ex-president.

Not a president.

He should be treated as any other civilian. Commit espionage. Steal the secrets. Go to jail.

PlutosHeart

(1,280 posts)
30. If you read up on what happens to the brain
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 09:38 PM
Sep 2022

when a set of illogical statements are threaded together you will see that the brain has an actual reaction.

The logical brain tries to make sense of gibberish if it is put into statements that are under the guise of rational. It is like a brain freeze of sorts. It is a chemical reaction and I think it is also related to what hypnotists use. Generally targeting weaker minds so to speak.

Apparently this is actually taught to politicians as well how to do this. But he is using it as if he were a Vegas act.

scipan

(2,351 posts)
61. So I was trying to Converse with a MAGAt online and he told me to
Sun Sep 4, 2022, 03:34 PM
Sep 2022

watch this YouTube video. It was a series of declaratory, and far out, statements that were stated very fast. My logical brain couldn't keep up. I felt like it was short circuiting my thoughts so all I had was a series of feelings, mostly frustration.

I think it's a clue to how the brainwashing works.

Beachnutt

(7,324 posts)
16. Since our system of justice moves at a snails pace
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 08:57 PM
Sep 2022

when it comes to the rich can we just turn his ass over to the iranians ?

Grasswire2

(13,571 posts)
20. more
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 09:06 PM
Sep 2022

He says he calls Xi "King"?
So now Trump, who says MAGA is resolutely anti-communist and anti-China, is advocating for the United States to mirror Communist China in its criminal justice system.

Like... how do the heads of the people at this rally not explode?
He now calls America a "killing field."

It appears that he asked aides to supply him with the goriest, most upsetting stories of innocent people being killed so he could get a shiver of pleasure from hearing them—oh, sorry, I mean "pretend that these are commonplace anecdotes."
He says his call to the Georgia SoS to try to steal the 2020 election was a "perfect call"—then attempts to laud cops while implying that maybe the ones at the Capitol on January 6 were "bad apples." Such a high-wire act for him, given that his pro-J6 movement now *hates* police.
Trump seems really upset by how Fetterman dresses, which is funny because Fetterman dresses *far* more like the average American than Trump or Oz or Mastriano (who I guess likes dressing as a Confederate soldier?)

Whoa—did he just falsely accuse Fetterman of being a drug addict?
He just slipped and admitted he lost Pennsylvania, then caught himself. Or, he didn't, not really, but all the cultists in the room will think he did.

I kid you not, this man who inherited $400 million from his dad is now attacking Fetterman for "leeching off his parents" (huh)?

Farmer-Rick

(10,182 posts)
25. Not much of a crowd either
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 09:21 PM
Sep 2022

"He is literally *in* a building with empty seats throughout the upper deck and with a whole section behind him blocked off and empty and he's telling people who are *in the building with him* that the building is sold out and at capacity. Sociopathy? Psychopathy? I've lost track."

But not to worry all day tomorrow Fox will be playing edited tapes of his more rational ravings and photoshopped crowd size.

Ford_Prefect

(7,901 posts)
35. He probably won't until the Judge reads out his sentence in open court. TLG is that far into denial.
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 10:06 PM
Sep 2022

keithbvadu2

(36,819 posts)
41. Any pictures of all the pro-Muslim shirts in the crowd?
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 10:22 PM
Sep 2022

Any pictures of all the pro-Muslim shirts in the crowd?

Grasswire2

(13,571 posts)
44. Seth says they have SAD music cued up to influence the audience when he tells how picked on he is.
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 10:26 PM
Sep 2022

World's biggest whiner, performing for world's stupidest crowd.

Ahpook

(2,750 posts)
46. This shit HAS to stop!
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 10:43 PM
Sep 2022

Trump in custody NOW!. If any of his shit eating followers want to start trouble? Blow there fucking asses up.

This is out of control!

Alien Life Form

(370 posts)
48. Disgusted
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 10:49 PM
Sep 2022

I went to a You Tube video of this and they are mostly posting praise and love for him calling him the greatest ever and sent by God.
The people are fucking NUTS!

highplainsdem

(48,994 posts)
54. As insane and scary as Trump's speech was, the reaction from his
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 11:30 PM
Sep 2022

supporters on Twitter was scarier. They thought it was a wonderful speech, uplifting and unifying. One wrote that it gave her hope.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,349 posts)
59. Putin and his puppet need money. MAGAts are the bank.
Sun Sep 4, 2022, 09:17 AM
Sep 2022

Putin also wants the destruction of the U.S. so we can't stop him in Ukraine and elsewhere.

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